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That seems like a waste of a good Joker.
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Oct 6, 2015 01:50
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HOLY loving poo poo.
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Oct 6, 2015 01:51
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*throws TV remote at wall*
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Oct 6, 2015 01:52
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muscles like this? posted:That seems like a waste of a good Joker. Gonz posted:*throws TV remote at wall*
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Oct 6, 2015 02:00
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So they are implying Jerome inspired the Joker? Kinda kills how original the Joker is.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:01
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Ha, well I guess they went with the "Make you fall in love with a single proto-joker, then kill him and give you a dozen other possibilities" approach. Sigh, they just had to have Jerome come in and kill it, didn't they? Any future Jokers are just imitators.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:01
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OK, I get it. The producers didn't appreciate the fact that we all thought we knew who the Joker was. So this'll learn us.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:01
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I loved fake R'as comment about how Jerome's character wasn't compelling and couldn't last.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:13
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I actually thought that was kind of a cool twist and kind of hate that I am now watching this show because it is decent instead of laughably bad now 
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Oct 6, 2015 02:14
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siriuslysomething posted:I actually thought that was kind of a cool twist and kind of hate that I am now watching this show because it is decent instead of laughably bad now It still has plenty of bad stuff like Jerome knowing the magic tricks and Gordon being able to get in the building unnoticed but nobody else being able to get out. But it will never be as bad as balloon man again.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:29
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I love the Balloon Man. He's so bad.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:32
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"Jerome you son of a bitch." "True, but not important right now."
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Oct 6, 2015 04:48
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SHOCKING SWERVE The next Joker candidate they get isn't going to be anywhere nearly as exciting unless they get a young age clone of Mark Hamill on the show.
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Oct 6, 2015 04:54
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Jerome is murdering his parents again in heaven now.  Funky Valentine posted:The next Joker candidate they get isn't going to be anywhere nearly as exciting unless they get a young age clone of Mark Hamill on the show. We just need a young adult who's as good or better than Jerome, and a way to somehow dub in Hamill doing his Joker voice for all his lines.
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Oct 6, 2015 04:55
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The TV IV > Gotham Season 2: That's not funny. That's not...
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Oct 6, 2015 04:59
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TheBizzness posted:It still has plenty of bad stuff like Jerome knowing the magic tricks He grew up in a carnival. You do the math.
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Oct 6, 2015 05:00
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TheBizzness posted:It still has plenty of bad stuff like Jerome knowing the magic tricks and Gordon being able to get in the building unnoticed but nobody else being able to get out. Did you somehow get a version with Selina being cut out?
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Oct 6, 2015 05:06
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Funky Valentine posted:The TV IV > Gotham Season 2: That's not funny. That's not... Clearly Jerome will be back in the Gotham Beyond. ...I really want a Batman Beyond series or movie though guys, it was such a fine cartoon.
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Oct 6, 2015 05:14
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Where's a lazarus pit when you need one?
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Oct 6, 2015 05:55
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Jerome was awesome and next week better be off the hook or I may just write off the rest of the season over that.
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Oct 6, 2015 06:35
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bull3964 posted:Jerome was awesome and next week better be off the hook or I may just write off the rest of the season over that. Yeah, nobody else interests me.
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Oct 6, 2015 06:37
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It seemed somehow wrong to me to have the Joker be the Joker in every way except for his deformities years before his encounter with Batman. Jack Napier was an rear end in a top hat criminal, but he didn't create mayhem for its own sake. Whatever his origin was, Heath Ledger Joker only started wreaking havoc around Gotham after Batman started.
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Oct 6, 2015 08:06
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The producers said they were going to have several proto-Jokers last season. I'm okay with killing off Jerome if it is part of their plan for a larger story. The writers winging it episode to episode last season was awful. The only problem is the actor was so great in the role that it will be hard to top him. The laughing guys in the montage certainly could not.
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Oct 6, 2015 08:14
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I'm totally fine with having a "that guy was too good of a Joker" problem.
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Oct 6, 2015 08:45
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Moon Slayer posted:I'm totally fine with having a "that guy was too good of a Joker" problem. Out of all the problems to have, I'll admit I didn't see thig one coming.
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Oct 6, 2015 09:12
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"Our show that is middling in the ratings and critical reception finally has a compelling character played by a great young actor who is totally killing it that everyone loves, let's reverse course and kill him off for nothing but shock value" That's a bold strategy Cotton, let's see if it pays off for them bbf2 fucked around with this message at 13:47 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oct 6, 2015 13:45
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They had to kill the Joker sooner rather than later because the "modern" Joker only "wants to see the world burn", which is a goal he can either achieve or not.
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Oct 6, 2015 13:55
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bbf2 posted:"Our show that is middling in the ratings and critical reception finally has a compelling character played by a great young actor who is totally killing it that everyone loves, let's reverse course and kill him off for nothing but shock value" Considering it happened in the third episode of the season I doubt they took any kind of reception into consideration.
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Oct 6, 2015 14:16
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They're going to introduce a bunch of proto-Jokers, then Dr. Dollmaker is going to frankenstein one together after he preserves all the dead ones
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Oct 6, 2015 15:17
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Was Jerome a walking, talking shoutout to how Joker in the comics was originally a one-shot character who died then came back because everyone thought he was kinda cool? Also, Alfred, back the gently caress off, the lady is spoken for and willing to fight for her man.
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Oct 6, 2015 15:54
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Space Fish posted:Was Jerome a walking, talking shoutout to how Joker in the comics was originally a one-shot character who died then came back because everyone thought he was kinda cool? well twiddle my whiskers master bruce, did you know she was spoken for??
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Oct 6, 2015 16:03
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This episode actually sold me on Jerome, I had been on the fence. Then they killed him.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:42
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TheBizzness posted:This episode actually sold me on Jerome, I had been on the fence. Agreed. Jerome went from trying too hard to be the Joker, to really owning the role as the Joker, and he is gone.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:45
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After sitting with it for a while, I guess I can see their point with having such a good not-Joker. Because if they want to go with this whole copycat route they kind of needed someone who knocked it out of the park in order to inspire such people.
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Oct 6, 2015 16:51
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I can understand why they killed off Jerome. As I was watching the episode I was thinking that he was killing it but I couldn't see how they could keep him involved in the story long-term. He'd already killed the police captain and the deputy mayor and been involved in a ton of public murders. If he stuck around then that pace would either wipe Gotham off the map by the end of the season or escalate the response from the good guys to the point where Batman would be irrelevant by the time he showed up. This was the only way to avoid writing themselves into a corner.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:13
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Rarity posted:I can understand why they killed off Jerome. As I was watching the episode I was thinking that he was killing it but I couldn't see how they could keep him involved in the story long-term. He'd already killed the police captain and the deputy mayor and been involved in a ton of public murders. If he stuck around then that pace would either wipe Gotham off the map by the end of the season or escalate the response from the good guys to the point where Batman would be irrelevant by the time he showed up. This was the only way to avoid writing themselves into a corner. Doesn't it also destroy whatever canon the writers are attempting to keep whole by having the serious implication that Gordon actively pursued and had many interactions with the Joker long before Bats shows up? I think my favorite bit in Jerome's short lived appearance was in that last episode where he's hamming up the maniacal (almost clichéd?) laugh fro the camera and then turns off the fee and drops back to stone sociopath face. It was a neat touch. I think he even says something to the effect of "that's enough of that."
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Oct 6, 2015 19:41
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muscles like this? posted:After sitting with it for a while, I guess I can see their point with having such a good not-Joker. Because if they want to go with this whole copycat route they kind of needed someone who knocked it out of the park in order to inspire such people. Bullshit. Jerome was perfect as Joker and either they just never have the Actual Joker on Gotham which is dumb on their part or they try to get someone else to do it after that which is even dumber on their part. This really soured me on the show again. It's the opposite of Fish; the guy should be alive and they killed him offf.
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Oct 6, 2015 19:48
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SamuraiFoochs posted:Bullshit. Jerome was perfect as Joker and either they just never have the Actual Joker on Gotham which is dumb on their part or they try to get someone else to do it after that which is even dumber on their part. This really soured me on the show again. It's the opposite of Fish; the guy should be alive and they killed him offf. They are sort of saying that they are not having a Joker.
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bobkatt013 posted:They are sort of saying that they are not having a Joker. Right, and I'm saying that's dumb not from a writing stance, but on the principle that people want to see the Joker in anything Batman, Problem is, any Lil' Joker thing is probably going to suck. A conundrum. But they actually, against all odds, HAD a good one and killed him off. It's stupid and soured me on the show not at face value; on paper the idea of Jerome INSPIRING The Joker (or tons of them) without actually being The Joker and that being his legacy is actually loving awesome.. The problem is that Jerome was a goddamn awesome character, quite possibly my favorite on the show, and they killed him for the sake of it when AFAIK he was pretty universally loved These are the same showrunners who practically made Fish Mooney immortal despite people hating her.
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