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Been awhile since we had a WW2 thread in GBS. THE AXIS GRENADE!! THE ALLIED GRENADE!! I admit I am not 100% sure on the second nade being accurate, but I googled it a bit and the pineapple came up. Please feel free to discuss any WW2 issues, from tech, to politics, to religion, et cetera if applicable. Also I'd like a 'why' answer as to which grenade is better not just a axis or allied answer! ----------------
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:20 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 05:57 |
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the prussian nades can be flung further but you can't eat them like the west coast ones.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:23 |
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I think the german grenade is better for tossing because of how you take advantage of angular momentum. I guess that can make it more accurate. However the american grenade is uh smaller I guess and easier to prime? I don't know, I think german grenades got primed by twisting off the bottom, which sounds more annoying to do that just pull a pin.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:25 |
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in that one episode of band of brothers they used potato mashers to blow up the barrels of some howitzers, thus rendering the man who came back with TNT a dumb bad scrub instead of a cool good hero
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:27 |
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it's hard to say. the masher has superior length for deep stimulation but the pineapple is ribbed. I think it entirely depends on what kind of butt play gets you off, op.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:28 |
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SHISHKABOB posted:I think the german grenade is better for tossing because of how you take advantage of angular momentum. I guess that can make it more accurate. However the american grenade is uh smaller I guess and easier to prime? I don't know, I think german grenades got primed by twisting off the bottom, which sounds more annoying to do that just pull a pin. nah, the bottom was just a screw off cap, they were armed by pulling a bead on a string that was protected by the cap
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:29 |
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I say gently caress the Irish op
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:30 |
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stop imposing your exposi-normative values on the grenades op
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:31 |
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potato masher had longer range but on the flip side was less lethal than pineapple grenade since it didn't have a fragmentation effect.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:32 |
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BigwigML posted:it's hard to say. the masher has superior length for deep stimulation but the pineapple is ribbed. I think it entirely depends on what kind of butt play gets you off, op. 1. proper grip 2. thumb the clip 3. twist pull pin 4. sneak a peek 5. strike a pose 6. nade my neg rear end
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:32 |
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I think we can all agree that plasma grenades are much better than frag grenades in Halo
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 18:33 |
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the dildo one
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 19:34 |
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PleasureKevin posted:the dildo one Everything is a dildo if you're brave enough
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 19:55 |
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I wonder if zee Germans have a forum like SomethingAwful and their watermark is one of those potato mashers. Also because they're German the name of the forums is SomethingNormal.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 19:56 |
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They're easier to tie a bunch together, they do that a few times in those sleazy Sven Hassel and Leo Kessler books
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 19:57 |
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dont bother with this one unless your enemy is already half damaged you can pretty much just take one to the dome and be ok
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:00 |
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numberoneposter posted:dont bother with this one unless your enemy is already half damaged you can pretty much just take one to the dome and be ok "grenade, delayed, hand, frag..." AAARRRRRGH WHO WRITES LIKE THAT??? edit: hah got the order wrong but STILL proof of concept fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Sep 20, 2015 |
# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:11 |
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the german one is the obvious choice when it comes to superior anal penetration
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:13 |
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its not ribbed for his pleasure tho
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:14 |
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Mr. Pumroy posted:the german one is the obvious choice when it comes to superior anal penetration size queen the us 'nade is ribbed for his pleasure. XMNN posted:its not ribbed for his pleasure tho fuuuuck should've refreshed
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:16 |
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etalian posted:potato masher had longer range but on the flip side was less lethal than pineapple grenade since it didn't have a fragmentation effect. The Model 24 and the effect but the later Model 43 stick grenade had fragmentation sleeves for defensive use. Seems kinda troublesome, but the Germans still like the idea of having modular grenades that can swap between defensive fragmentation grenades and purely-overpressure offensive grenades since the DM51 from the 1970s had a slip-on fragmentation sleeve.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:16 |
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potato mashers are better aesthetically and kinesthetically but probably worse in other ways
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:34 |
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aesthetics > * take the lamborghini countach for example who cares if its not as fast as some gay dumb dentists porche JUST loving LOOK AT IT
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:53 |
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Flavahbeast posted:potato mashers are better aesthetically and kinesthetically but probably worse in other ways bulk and weight?
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:55 |
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Young Freud posted:The Model 24 and the effect but the later Model 43 stick grenade had fragmentation sleeves for defensive use. Seems kinda troublesome, but the Germans still like the idea of having modular grenades that can swap between defensive fragmentation grenades and purely-overpressure offensive grenades since the DM51 from the 1970s had a slip-on fragmentation sleeve. And I just spent a half hour reading all the wiki entries I could about grenades. Pretty decent Sunday so far.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 20:58 |
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:09 |
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grenades are ineffective, so the smaller one would be better because it would annoy you less carrying it
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:14 |
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Young Freud posted:The Model 24 and the effect but the later Model 43 stick grenade had fragmentation sleeves for defensive use. Seems kinda troublesome, but the Germans still like the idea of having modular grenades that can swap between defensive fragmentation grenades and purely-overpressure offensive grenades since the DM51 from the 1970s had a slip-on fragmentation sleeve. what's the difference between an offensive and defensive grenade
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:18 |
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German one is easier to throw but harder to stow. Most Americans know how to throw a vaguely baseball shaped object so the throwing advantage is slightly mitigated.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:21 |
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Parallax Scroll posted:what's the difference between an offensive and defensive grenade Fragmentation grenades especially the old school ones could be just as deadly to the person who threw them since shrapnel could easily travel over 100 yards. With a purely explosive grenade there's a lower risk of friendly fire.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:22 |
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Depends on your nationality. If sports like baseball or cricket are popular in your country, it was assumed you'd be familiar with throwing small spherical objects. If not, then you'd want a handle so you can fling it real far. Nowadays all bets are probably off when it comes to young males being physically competent at an athletic sport. Good thing weapons have evolved in the "sitting on a fart-saturated chair and staring at a screen" direction. To kick our rear end in a war, you have to trick us into going outdoors.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:24 |
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Well here's another thought. If potato masher grenades were so great how come no modern army uses them? We drat sure stole everything else we thought was awesome: jet designs, rockets, Stg44, the m60 heavily borrows from the mg42, I think there's a European army LMG that looks exactly like a mg42. But nobody took the potato masher grenade?
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:30 |
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Parallax Scroll posted:what's the difference between an offensive and defensive grenade etalian posted:Fragmentation grenades especially the old school ones could be just as deadly to the person who threw them since shrapnel could easily travel over 100 yards. Frags are designed to be used from behind some form of cover. As Etalian said, because there is a risk of injury to the user. Concussion grenades, simple explosion, have much less shrapnel and can be used in a breaching situation. Such as tossing one into a enclosed room. The actual pressure wave will do damage and incapacitate anyone inside. Flash Bangs, are used in a similar manner, but are even much less lethal. The bright flash of light stimulates all the receptors in the eyes and will cause temporary blindness. The bang part over pressures the fluid in your ears, causing disorientation and temporary deafness.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:33 |
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Vladimir Putin posted:Well here's another thought. If potato masher grenades were so great how come no modern army uses them? We drat sure stole everything else we thought was awesome: jet designs, rockets, Stg44, the m60 heavily borrows from the mg42, I think there's a European army LMG that looks exactly like a mg42. But nobody took the potato masher grenade? Probably because they have downsides such as lower carrying capacity. More modern grenades are also much lighter, while being just as lethal as WWII grenades.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 21:43 |
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Syd Midnight posted:Good thing weapons have evolved in the "sitting on a fart-saturated chair and staring at a screen" direction.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 22:23 |
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:grenades are ineffective, so the smaller one would be better because it would annoy you less carrying it listen up boys, general THE DOG HOUSE is about to tell us why grenades are retarded
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 22:25 |
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Vladimir Putin posted:Well here's another thought. If potato masher grenades were so great how come no modern army uses them? We drat sure stole everything else we thought was awesome: jet designs, rockets, Stg44, the m60 heavily borrows from the mg42, I think there's a European army LMG that looks exactly like a mg42. But nobody took the potato masher grenade? The Germans and the Serbians never gave up the MG42, they just remade them in modern calibers. The Spanish even made a baby brother MG42 called the Ameli. VendaGoat posted:Frags are designed to be used from behind some form of cover. As Etalian said, because there is a risk of injury to the user. It's pretty understated how quickly those blast waves dissipate. A grenade's overpressure wave falls off pretty dramatically, mostly because, while it's a high explosive, it's not a few a whole lot, just a few ounces. Within a half a meter, you can expect to be blown in half by the explosion, at a bit over a meter, the blast wave will seriously injury someone that they might need to stay in a hospital for a couple months, and at two meters, they only have the potential of getting their eardrums burst. That's why fragmentation is such a big deal. Even the U.S. Army knew this and made low explosive versions of their grenades with blank powder fillers, presumably as offensive-role grenades, which was enough to provide fragmentation but not enough to have it go past a certain radius. Also, the weird thing about flash bangs or explosives in general is how their blast waves move. The peak pressure of a flash bang to a lethal grenade are pretty similar, however, the flash bang's shock front tends to hit slower, like a few microseconds less, and that's apparently enough to distribute the pressure across your body a way it's only disorienting and not fatal. It's not being splashed on you but poured onto you. etalian posted:Probably because they have downsides such as lower carrying capacity. This. A shipping crate of potato mashers held about 15 of them. A comparable box of American Mk 2 "pineapple" grenades, which weighed as much as a potato masher, could carry 25 of them. Also, I believe the stick in regards to throwing was overrated. It had a farther range in some cases, but not all cases. Like, you could get some range on it standing up and leaning into the throw, but, in a combat situation, when are you going to really have a opportunity like that when there's a bunch of automatic weapons fire incoming at your general position.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 22:25 |
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If we're going by aesthetics the Italians managed to be royal cock-ups
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 22:32 |
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Sunshine Mix posted:If we're going by aesthetics the Italians managed to be royal cock-ups The lethality of tomato ragu sauce was deemed ineffective by the axis command.
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# ? Sep 20, 2015 22:37 |
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Sunshine Mix posted:If we're going by aesthetics the Italians managed to be royal cock-ups Based on how it looks I'm going to guess that it doesn't function that well.
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