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nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
pretty sure the reason they made sure to assure everyone who would listen they were just into frottage is the same reason we're talking about this today in another culture; not everybody is ok with it and nobody exactly knows how to deal with it, so one manner of suppression or another comes about; in the greek case it's saying "truuuuuuuuuuuust me we never put it in their butt" and in the pashtun case the boys get shunned even though it's "accepted"

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Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald

Mange Mite posted:

:eng101: actually teh greeks did very little buttfucking, they mostly just stuck their dicks between the thighs of their young boys

er yeah you bleieve this? lol

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

nomadologique posted:

pretty sure the reason they made sure to assure everyone who would listen they were just into frottage is the same reason we're talking about this today in another culture; not everybody is ok with it and nobody exactly knows how to deal with it, so one manner of suppression or another comes about; in the greek case it's saying "truuuuuuuuuuuust me we never put it in their butt" and in the pashtun case the boys get shunned even though it's "accepted"

i am ok with the pushing a wall on them with a tank thing too

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Mange Mite posted:

:eng101: actually teh greeks did very little buttfucking, they mostly just stuck their dicks between the thighs of their young boys

the ancient version of Clinton's I didn't inhale line.


also lolling at how the USA and Soviets got defeated by warlike pederasts.

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Mange Mite posted:

dunno this is in the era before condoms and fleets

also antibiotics

some frottage must have gone on, sure, and maybe that's how a relationship frequently starts, but you gotta imagine most of them involve penetration at some point

STIs don't seem to have stopped anybody else at any other time, so i wouldn't take that into account

i don't know what a fleet is

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

nomadologique posted:

some frottage must have gone on, sure, and maybe that's how a relationship frequently starts, but you gotta imagine most of them involve penetration at some point

STIs don't seem to have stopped anybody else at any other time, so i wouldn't take that into account

i don't know what a fleet is

its a brand of enemas

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Mange Mite posted:

i am ok with the pushing a wall on them with a tank thing too

what is your opinion of 15 or 16 year old girls marrying older men? with or without parental consent?

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Mange Mite posted:

its a brand of enemas

gotcha thank you

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

nomadologique posted:

what is your opinion of 15 or 16 year old girls marrying older men? with or without parental consent?

its whatever teh taliban thinks

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Also once the taliban were gone the Afghans could get back to growing opium bumper crops.

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Mange Mite posted:

its whatever teh taliban thinks

morality is a curious thing isn't it, enemy of my enemy applies just as easily in the intellectual realm somehow

Trash Trick
Apr 17, 2014

You can't force cultural changes upon a society. They must come from within. The military was right to reprimand the soldiers.

angelklaine
Jun 10, 2015

Servant of Ruth and master of none.

nomadologique posted:

what is your opinion of 15 or 16 year old girls marrying older men? with or without parental consent?

My grandmother was 15 when she married my grandfather. My grandfather was 49 and had a van.

I am the end result.

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

angelklaine posted:

My grandmother was 15 when she married my grandfather. My grandfather was 49 and had a van.

I am the end result.

what is your opinion of marriage?

do you have a van?

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

SplitSoul posted:

operation cyclone began under carter with the specific goal of provoking a soviet invasion, though.

yeah, but the coup that put the controversial soviet-friendly guy in power was in 1973, well before Carter was even a candidate, and from that point on coup attempts and assassinations became a yearly event as tensions escalated without any help from the us or russia.

Athropos
May 4, 2004

"Skeletons are Number One! Flesh just slows you down."

nomadologique posted:

just so you know, western civilization was basically founded on similar behavior

socrates was sentenced to death because they thought he buttfucked one too many young men into political subversion and traitorousness

uh yeah, 2500 years ago, bleeding edge social progress itt

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Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

The_Franz posted:

yeah, but the coup that put the controversial soviet-friendly guy in power was in 1973, well before Carter was even a candidate, and from that point on coup attempts and assassinations became a yearly event as tensions escalated without any help from the us or russia.

and this mostly stems from the fact that theyt started out as third world but the soviets were down for trade deals and development funds and the us wasnt

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

nomadologique posted:

wait we haven't instituted the star fleet protocal of non interference yet??

let these savages decide their own moral systems!

We should do that, right down to the "gently caress you if you haven't discovered warp drive don't have oil."

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

soldiers are all a bunch of bitches if they don't kill these pedophiles the first chance they get

there's no excuse for not just opening fire on these fuckers, what a bunch of babies

gently caress your chain of command, they should go straight up Punisher on these pedophile scum

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

lol this happened all over the place and most of the US troops couldnt do poo poo about it. in one docu i saw the guy stationed there keeps bringing it up with the afghan commander and eventually the commander gets pissed and asks if the americans expect them to gently caress their own grandmas. so in afghanistan you can gently caress your grandma or little boys but nothing else

next shot is of one of the afghan dudes running his hands over a kid's chest :gonk:

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Athropos posted:

uh yeah, 2500 years ago, bleeding edge social progress itt

all i'm saying is, we're the intellectual and moral legacy of a bunch of boyfuckers

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Fonzarelli posted:

gently caress your chain of command, they should go straight up Punisher on these pedophile scum

what if this is why that one dude snapped and killed a bunch of civilians in the middle of the night and burned their corpses in the center of the village and poo poo

makes u think

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Fonzarelli posted:

soldiers are all a bunch of bitches if they don't kill these pedophiles the first chance they get

there's no excuse for not just opening fire on these fuckers, what a bunch of babies

gently caress your chain of command, they should go straight up Punisher on these pedophile scum

yeah if there's one thing the u.s. military is known for it's a tough stance on rape

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald

SplitSoul posted:

yeah if there's one thing the u.s. military is known for it's a tough stance on rape

you have to admit, its probably the least rapey army in the world now though. just like everybody thinks americans are racist (yes) but its so much worse in your country lol

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
at least other americans call americans out for racism

in europe it's just nonstop 'gently caress the gypsies gently caress the turks'

i mean yeah we're not a lot better but we are better so suck it euros :911:

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

mods wish they could get reincarnated as a Pashtun

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
still not the worst part of Kite Runner

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Mange Mite posted:

and this mostly stems from the fact that theyt started out as third world but the soviets were down for trade deals and development funds and the us wasnt

Wrong the Afghans did manage to collect aid from both parties during the cold war and did pretty well until their great neighbor Pakistan started stirring the pot.

BigBoss
Jan 26, 2012

by Lowtax

etalian posted:

Wrong the Afghans did manage to collect aid from both parties during the cold war and did pretty well until their great neighbor Pakistan started stirring the pot.

I remeber hearing somewhere that everyone in Pakistan is in a bitchy mood 24/7. Like no one is ever happy ever. It's an entire country of Debbie Downers.

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

BottledBodhisvata posted:

Jesus loving Christ.

See, this is what happens when you repress a culture's sexuality for centuries. They put their women in sheets and stick their dicks in boys.

Y'know the joke how "it's not gay if the balls don't touch" or whatever? This is taken as truth here. There are Arab twinks who dress as women and are basically treated as disposable gently caress boys by Muslim men.

It's really tragic.

Actually, that practice is an Ancient Greek practice brought to Afghanistan by Alexander, not just "boy loving", but the whole pageantry and spectacle surrounding it there. It's nothing to do with how sexually repressive Islam is.

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

Dr. Tough posted:

Yeah there were some neighborhoods in Kabul that were nice and modern. But the entire rest of the country, where they actual bulk of the population lived, was a backwards poo poo hole and has always always been like that.

The same thing could be said about the United States before WPA came along and started infrastructure expansion from the 30s onward.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

My Q-Face posted:

Actually, that practice is an Ancient Greek practice brought to Afghanistan by Alexander, not just "boy loving", but the whole pageantry and spectacle surrounding it there. It's nothing to do with how sexually repressive Islam is.

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SAUn--l6Bs

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

corpuscollossus posted:

Afghanistan was a chill secular place in the 60s before the US and USSR started sabre rattling

corpuscollossus posted:

Afghanistan was a chill secular place in the 60s before the US and USSR started sabre rattling

corpuscollossus posted:

Afghanistan was a chill secular place in the 60s before the US and USSR started sabre rattling

corpuscollossus posted:

Afghanistan was a chill secular place in the 60s before the US and USSR started sabre rattling

corpuscollossus posted:

Afghanistan was a chill secular place in the 60s before the US and USSR started sabre rattling



:megadeath:

Prettz
Sep 3, 2002

well maybe the afghans have a point...

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

yeah, you know that boy loving? well, stavros constanopoulis from the year AD 29 has a thing to say about that...

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

a cop posted:

You can't force cultural changes upon a society. They must come from within. The military was right to reprimand the soldiers.

You can help by providing necessary stability and structures, right?

I mean isn't this what worked in Post-WWII japan and Germany?

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Moridin920 posted:

at least other americans call americans out for racism

in europe it's just nonstop 'gently caress the gypsies gently caress the turks'

i mean yeah we're not a lot better but we are better so suck it euros :911:

My favorite are euros who make it extremely obvious they think only white people can be american but try to talk about how america is this racist shithole

whoflungpoop
Sep 9, 2004

With you and the constellations

LegoPirateNinja posted:

these dirt piles arent nations. they will never accept a foreign hegemony. either you work with them, with all the horrors that implies; murder all of them, with all the horrors that implies; or leave them alone, with all the horrors that implies.

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

The Soviet Union didn't need to invade, they had independent socialist parties forming in 60's era Afghanistan. They should have formed their own progressive Islamic version of socialism.

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My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves
The Soviet Union didn't invade to impose socialism, they were allied governments. They invaded to support the existing socialist government. It really was "their Vietnam" for more reasons than just "it was a quagmire".

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