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Killing them is the sanest option. Since therapy is pointless. They serve no purpose in society. They indulge somewhere. Whether it's loving a child or watching child porn. They indulge, like all sexuality. They deserve death. Sorry if that offends your pro-pedo platform. Truly this is the amazing end game of modern leftism.
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I mean maybe they could buy hilarious quantities of gross japanese hentai or watch creepy schoolgirl fetish porno. Maybe they could even get a girlfriend who's into adult baby poo poo.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:39
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Black Baby Goku posted:Killing them is the sanest option. Since therapy is pointless. They serve no purpose in society. They indulge somewhere. Whether it's loving a child or watching child porn. They indulge, like all sexuality. They deserve death. Sorry if that offends your pro-pedo platform. Truly this is the amazing end game of modern leftism. But again, they won't be killed, so this is all just Black Baby Goku's impotent but enthusiastic endorsement of the status quo.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:40
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They should be though. That's the important part.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:41
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OwlFancier posted:I mean maybe they could buy hilarious quantities of gross japanese hentai or watch creepy schoolgirl fetish porno. the latter is still weird as hell but at least it's not molesting kids so whatever I guess
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Oct 1, 2015 20:42
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OwlFancier posted:I mean maybe they could buy hilarious quantities of gross japanese hentai or watch creepy schoolgirl fetish porno. Sure. That's probably what they do 
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Oct 1, 2015 20:42
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The Amazing Virtuous Pedophile (citation needed)
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Oct 1, 2015 20:43
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Control Volume posted:the latter is still weird as hell but at least it's not molesting kids so whatever I guess Personally I'd say the former is weirder but that's broadly my point. Just because it's gross doesn't mean I have to ban it. If we did that then everyone would have very boring lives. Also we'd all die of scurvy. Black Baby Goku posted:Sure. That's probably what they do Who else funds the apparently industrial-scale production of creepy poo poo from Japan?
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Black Baby Goku posted:They should be though. That's the important part. When your "should" will never happen, it consigns you to meaninglessness. But you still hold onto the idea because it titillates you. One could almost say that your obsession with murdering pedophiles fits in very nicely with the abuses they commit. You gain a form of release from child abuse, because without it you couldn't indulge in your fantasy.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:46
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OwlFancier posted:Personally I'd say the former is weirder but that's broadly my point. Just because it's gross doesn't mean I have to ban it. If we did that then everyone would have very boring lives. Also we'd all die of scurvy. The majority of D&D, I had always assumed. Between the male version of Rachel Doleziscity (spelling?) and the rape torture of his black slave guy. The pro pedophilia posters of this forum are sane and normal. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 1, 2015 20:47
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SedanChair posted:When your "should" will never happen, it consigns you to meaninglessness. But you still hold onto the idea because it titillates you. One could almost say that your obsession with murdering pedophiles fits in very nicely with the abuses they commit. You gain a form of release from child abuse, because without it you couldn't indulge in your fantasy. My idea will happen before they "cure" pedophilia with therapy 
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Oct 1, 2015 20:48
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Well I mean strictly it really won't because without an understanding of what causes it the majority of paedophiles will probably go undetected so you'll mostly be killing the obvious and clumsy ones and not doing anything about the rest.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:51
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Then kill the ones we find guilty. Hunt down the people downloading and producing child porn and kill them too. Let the rest stay hidden.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:52
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I mean they might be molesting children and stuff while you don't know about them. That seems like something you shouldn't really just let happen.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:53
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OwlFancier posted:I mean they might be molesting children and stuff while you don't know about them. It's happening already. And more so even. What with them walking around and posting articles freely on salon
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Oct 1, 2015 20:56
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Yes and maybe that's something we should stop? I'm just a bit skeptical about the efficacy of the "shoot everyone who looks a bit pedo" approach given that it hasn't really worked very well for wiping out underground and illegal activity ever before in history.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:58
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OwlFancier posted:Yes and maybe that's something we should stop? My opinion would be, make it unknown. Black bag them and do mobile execution vans like China.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:01
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Does it work very well in China?
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Oct 1, 2015 21:01
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Yes. They still have communist party don't they?
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Oct 1, 2015 21:01
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Black Baby Goku posted:Then kill the ones we find guilty. Hunt down the people downloading and producing child porn and kill them too. Let the rest stay hidden. Outright endorsement of pedophiles continuing to hide and commit abuses! I'd have thought you'd be too bashful to delve into the particulars of what's needed to sustain your fetish. Good job admitting it; now, just write a Salon article about it and you can aspire to the moral heights of Todd Nickerson, pedophile columnist.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:02
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Black Baby Goku posted:Yes. They still have communist party don't they? I mean, that the Chinese Stasi have continued employment would suggest it doesn't work that well. They presumably don't seem to be making much of a dent?
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Oct 1, 2015 21:02
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They are already hidden. Nothing changes about that. My platform just executes them on site, rather than wasting money in prison and letting their 90 percent recidivism rate stand or however bad it is.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:03
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OwlFancier posted:I mean, that the Chinese Stasi have continued employment would suggest it doesn't work that well. They presumably don't seem to be making much of a dent? China does what they do well. There's no arguing that.
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"Not much more effective but somewhat cheaper" is not exactly a ringing endorsement for a solution to the society-wide problem of rape.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:04
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Have a better idea? Feel free to stand up and explain it.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:08
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Black Baby Goku posted:Have a better idea? Feel free to stand up and explain it. We've already explained it, but you go off on a death-fetish tizzy every time we do. Treatment, housing and appropriate supervision reduce abuse better than any other method that will actually happen. You just don't want to face it, and want child abuse to flourish so you can fantasize about your role in it.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:10
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There is no effective treatment.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:11
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Black Baby Goku posted:There is no effective treatment. See, that's what I mean. No engagement with reality.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:12
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Can you cure homosexuality?
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Oct 1, 2015 21:13
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Black Baby Goku posted:Can you cure homosexuality? We're not talking about cures, we're talking about treatment. e: This is going to come back around to the fundamental difference being consent, and you've already shown that you don't understand consent and don't think it's particularly relevant. It's possible to use treatment to help many people who violate consent, whether it's assault, sex abuse or property crime.
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Can you treat homosexuality?
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Drop the preoccupation with punitive justice, while cathartic, it's never historically been shown to be effective to my knowledge. Reform-based justice is a quite old idea that was pioneered centuries ago and I believe showed a marked improvement in recidivism rates for all crimes. At the time I think it was basically lots of religion and work combined with clean and liveable conditions, rather than being locked up all the time in a lovely hole. Reform based justice doesn't make people feel as good as some nice torture and killing so it's never really taken off, but it does seem to work better, and of course if you aren't focused on tormenting your prisoners you can get so much more information out of them. Modern psychology can help to build up profiles of common historical incidents, feelings, methods of thought and action common among child molesters, helping police and social engineers to understand who is likely to be one, how they operate, what drives them to do what they do etc, and with that information you stand a better chance of catching people molesting children, as well as potentially giving you a nice laundry list of things which cause people to develop the predilection in the first place, which you can work to remove from people's life experiences and thereby reduce the number of child molesters which emerge. Basically a more holistic approach to crime prevention is always better than just "wait for them to do it and then shoot them" because you will have an endless stream of people to shoot, and by the time you get round to it they've already done what you want to prevent them doing. Black Baby Goku posted:Can you treat homosexuality? Yes? I mean "treat" implies it's a disease but you can certainly reduce the manifestation of the symptoms.
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Black Baby Goku posted:Can you treat homosexuality? "Treatment" implies there is a behavior that needs to be corrected. Since there is no breach of consent, there is no inappropriate behavior and the concept of treatment does not apply. You cannot treat what people are sexually attracted to but you can certainly treat what they do about it. If a gay man was groping men on the street, treatment would not focus on his homosexuality.
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There is no way a person goes through their whole life without acting on their sexuality. Treatment or no treatment. gently caress off with that poo poo.
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Black Baby Goku posted:There is no way a person goes through their whole life without acting on their sexuality. Treatment or no treatment. gently caress off with that poo poo. I think there is. Lots of priests and nuns live entirely celibate lives, for example. You can disagree but that's just your "horse sense," AKA opinion without value.
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Black Baby Goku posted:There is no way a person goes through their whole life without acting on their sexuality. Treatment or no treatment. gently caress off with that poo poo. They don't have to go their whole lives without acting on it, they just have to go their whole lives without raping anyone or watching people get raped. That's not the hardest thing in the world. They're free to jack off as much as they like, do as much gross poo poo as they want with other consenting adults, and import as much schoolgirl tentacle anime as they feel necessary.
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People who are in favor of the death penalty are scum
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Kajeesus posted:Kill everyone who supports the death penalty. Also skip due process for anyone who advocates skipping it ever.
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