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I had a friend once who argued a pretty strong case that a benevolent dictator/monarch would be the best system, because assuming total control they have no reason to be influenced by lobbyists/corporations/whatever boogeyman. If they weren't benevolent obviously the system would no longer work but that's not the premise. I personally lean towards social democracy/anarcho-syndicalism, but this thread isn't about me. What do you think is the best political system and why?
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Absolute dictatorship under an omniscient, omnibenevolent artificial intelligence.
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Sep 23, 2015 16:06
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AMERICA 
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Sep 23, 2015 16:07
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full communism
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Sep 23, 2015 16:07
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How are u posted:full communism
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Sep 23, 2015 16:13
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B. Hussein Sanders.
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Sep 23, 2015 16:15
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How are u posted:full communism Can you explain what you mean by that and why? Are you talking about individual state communism or global or...? Not trying to start a flame war just curious what you mean and why you think its the best.
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Sep 23, 2015 16:16
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The problem with having a benevolent absolute dictator is that they still won't be aware of all the problems that people are facing in society, and they will have trouble balancing conflicting needs. This problem is solved by making the dictator a computer, who is also omniscient and omni-benevolent. How are u posted:full communism This but unironically.
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Sep 23, 2015 16:20
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ZenVulgarity posted:AMERICA  
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Sep 23, 2015 16:24
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Unironically constitutional monarchy. The Nordic countries, Netherlands, Japan, i.e. many of the best countries in the world have that. Democracy is great, but it's even better if there's a monarch with a personal stake in the wellbeing of the country, and the power potential to limit the most egregious abuses of capitalism.
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Sep 23, 2015 16:26
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pigdog posted:Unironically constitutional monarchy. The Nordic countries, Netherlands, Japan, i.e. many of the best countries in the world have that. Democracy is great, but it's even better if there's a monarch with a personal stake in the wellbeing of the country, and the power potential to limit the most egregious abuses of capitalism. Is it really fair to have Japan in that list with, y'know, the whole World War 2 thing?
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Sep 23, 2015 16:28
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Whiskey Sours posted:Absolute dictatorship under an omniscient, omnibenevolent artificial intelligence. This but it could also be God or a genie or something pigdog posted:Unironically constitutional monarchy. The Nordic countries, Netherlands, Japan, i.e. many of the best countries in the world have that. Democracy is great, but it's even better if there's a monarch with a personal stake in the wellbeing of the country, and the power potential to limit the most egregious abuses of capitalism. Unironically, the monarchs in those countries have literally no power in limiting the egregious abuses and in fact usually exemplify and participate in it with their outrageous amounts of inherited money, personal property and investments. Those countries are great because of their democratic socialism, as are non-monarchical democratic socialist countries like Finland, Iceland, Ireland, etc. CommieGIR posted:Is it really fair to have Japan in that list with, y'know, the whole World War 2 thing? Or most of the others with the whole colonialism thing. Queen Victoria didn't limit the abuses of the British Empire but ended up symbolizing it at its horrific height even if she personally directed few things, and then we have people like Leopold II... DarkCrawler fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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Sep 23, 2015 16:31
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idk, I really liked the Illuminati Ending
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Sep 23, 2015 16:36
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I'd argue that randomly selecting policies would do better than any other known political system (using most metrics of success).
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Sep 23, 2015 16:36
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How are u posted:full communism
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Sep 23, 2015 16:38
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Trumpocracy obviously.
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Sep 23, 2015 16:41
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How are u posted:full communism This, or dictatorship run by Spider-Man.
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Sep 23, 2015 16:43
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Like all Dork enlightenment members. A dictatorship as long as I rule.
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Sep 23, 2015 16:44
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Venomous posted:idk, I really liked the Illuminati Ending  "Oh yes."
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Sep 23, 2015 16:44
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Ah. A hypothetical one in a hypothetical world where what we're able to do is different. This is of course the best. In the practical world, I'd say rank-voting pluralism.
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Sep 23, 2015 17:40
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Whichever one makes me the richest and grants me the most power.
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Sep 23, 2015 17:43
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The Culture because we can virtualize all our undesirables.
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Sep 23, 2015 17:45
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Venomous posted:idk, I really liked the Illuminati Ending it was the "good" ending in human revolution imo.
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Sep 23, 2015 17:53
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Whiskey Sours posted:Absolute dictatorship under an omniscient, omnibenevolent artificial intelligence. 
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Sep 23, 2015 18:01
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Anything other than Communism.
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Sep 23, 2015 18:05
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No poo poo, when I lived in Cheyenne, WY, this scene scared the hell out of me as a new father. Knowing that we'd be on a first strike list someone...
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Sep 23, 2015 18:18
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Freshocracy, only the freshest can rule, elections are decided by fashion shows and dance offs.
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Sep 23, 2015 18:27
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robo-communism.
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Sep 23, 2015 18:27
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If an omniscient, omni-benevolent AI decides that the human race should be exterminated, who are you to argue with it? Skynet did nothing wrong. Whiskey Sours fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Sep 23, 2015 |
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Sep 23, 2015 18:33
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Skynet did nothing wrong. Edit: beaten
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Sep 23, 2015 18:35
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The best political system is the one where you're in control. The worst are the ones where you're not in control.
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Sep 23, 2015 18:38
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A benevolent dictatorship that supports all of my opinions and worldviews. The worst is a malevolent dictatorship that does not support all of my opinions and worldviews.
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Sep 23, 2015 18:50
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Theoretically the ideal is that everyone is nice to each other and no government is needed. Once you step into the real world the only thing that matters is finding the government which works the best.
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Sep 23, 2015 18:56
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All our kids are going to be Chinese subjects anyway. Who cares!
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Sep 23, 2015 19:27
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asdf32 posted:Theoretically the ideal is that everyone is nice to each other and no government is needed. Get back in the Libertarian thread and defend this.  We need more laugh material
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Sep 23, 2015 20:11
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Fojar38 posted:A benevolent dictatorship that supports all of my opinions and worldviews. A dictatorship that supports all my opinions and worldviews is more likely to be malevolent tbh.
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Sep 23, 2015 20:18
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CommieGIR posted:Get back in the Libertarian thread and defend this. He did say "the ideal". Technically if we weren't such bastards we wouldn't need governing.
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Sep 23, 2015 20:33
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Starshark posted:He did say "the ideal". Technically if we weren't such bastards we wouldn't need governing. Society needs governance, it's a technological organism, the true pure form of libertarian ideology is having a government so completely benevolent you don't care that it exists. The libertarian political system is "No, gently caress you, I got mine, DAD!"
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Sep 23, 2015 20:41
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Starshark posted:He did say "the ideal". Technically if we weren't such bastards we wouldn't need governing. He's Libertarian, you don't want to know what he thinks about governing.
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CommieGIR posted:He's Libertarian, you don't want to know what he thinks about governing. Oh, well, forget I said anything then.
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