JB50 posted:

A few have tried, none have succeeded.

Nelson Mandingo posted:

Yo that actually is pretty vile behavior from zim zam

Powercrazy posted:

His lovely life ended as soon as the national media picked up the story. Now he has a relatively better life as a lovely person.

Tezzor posted:

his lovely life will end when he is killed

Tezzor posted:

his lovely life will end when he is killed

Parallax Scroll posted:

im going to flim flam him

Powercrazy posted:

I don't remember this. Then again I stopped following the dnd thread when they were trying to make zimmerman a scape goat for all race-relations past and future.

Powercrazy posted:

Karma doesn't exist you whiny bitch. So what are you waiting for?

Ork of Fiction posted:

Yeah. Zimmerman started following him through the neighborhood, because he was a suspicious looking black youth. Martin made it to his destination, told his girlfriend about the guy who tailed him like he was some kind of criminal(!). She told him to go kick his rear end, presumably to prove Zimmerman right (?)

So, he went out and assaulted an armed man, in the middle of the night, and got shot.


It's weird how you never heard about this. Wasn't the news media who spent months talking about this invested in getting the actual facts out to the public?

Moridin920 posted:

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JB50 posted:

If Trayvon had done one thing hed be alive today:

corpuscollossus posted:

If Zimmerman were around in the panthers heyday, he'd have been taken out by now. MKUltra took the edge out of counter culture movements.

Tezzor posted:

the arc of the universe is long but it bends towards a george zimmerman curb party

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

how do you walk away from melanin

TacticalUrbanHomo posted:

how do you walk away from melanin

tetsuo posted:

huh. usually i'm against vigilante mob justice but he makes a strong case for exceptions

ArbitraryC posted:

Zimmerman is my edge case here. I fully believe in a justice system that errs on letting guilty people go free over innocent people being found guilty, and I strongly oppose vigilante mob justice particularly in cases where it's a fight that never went to courts or where the person was found innocent even if public opinion thinks they're guilty, but zimmerman is just so bad and now has a several year documented history of pulling out a gun after he starts an altercation with someone it's just so loving obvious that zimmer pulled a gun out to threaten martin while illegally detaining him and ended up discharged it during the scuffle.

ArbitraryC posted:

Zimmerman is my edge case here. I fully believe in a justice system that errs on letting guilty people go free over innocent people being found guilty, and I strongly oppose vigilante mob justice particularly in cases where it's a fight that never went to courts or where the person was found innocent even if public opinion thinks they're guilty, but zimmerman is just so bad and now has a several year documented history of pulling out a gun after he starts an altercation with someone it's just so loving obvious that zimmer pulled a gun out to threaten martin while illegally detaining him and ended up discharged it during the scuffle.

Ork of Fiction posted:

Yeah. Zimmerman started following him through the neighborhood, because he was a suspicious looking black youth. Martin made it to his destination, told his girlfriend about the guy who tailed him like he was some kind of criminal(!). She told him to go kick his rear end, presumably to prove Zimmerman right (?)

So, he went out and assaulted an armed man, in the middle of the night, and got shot.


It's weird how you never heard about this. Wasn't the news media who spent months talking about this invested in getting the actual facts out to the public?

Mange Mite posted:

It seems you can moonwalk away from it

Melmac posted:

ArbitraryC posted:

There is literally no evidence that happened. Zimmer's story basically boils down to him being ambushed and pulling out the gun after the fact, which is how he got off on any charges because as the person on trial someone else would have to prove that didn't happen and between lack of witnesses and the police literally not investigating at all when they got to the original scene, there wasn't good enough evidence to convict him. As much as I hate it, I'm glad our justice system works that way because I'd rather that happen then someone who legitimately got ambushed and used lethal force in self defense being unable to prove that's what happened. However, since the martin incident we've had zimmer pull a gun out in nonviolent confrontations with his girlfriend and (iirc) strangers. If this is a consistent part of his behavior and he had initially pulled his gun on and threatened martin before they fought, which I suspect is true, he would have been convicted of murder because you're not actually allowed to do that. Martin attacking him would have been considered valid self defense.

Basically the only reason the trial played out the way it did is because martin was dead.

ArbitraryC posted:

Zimmerman is my edge case here. I fully believe in a justice system that errs on letting guilty people go free over innocent people being found guilty, and I strongly oppose vigilante mob justice particularly in cases where it's a fight that never went to courts or where the person was found innocent even if public opinion thinks they're guilty, but zimmerman is just so bad and now has a several year documented history of pulling out a gun after he starts an altercation with someone it's just so loving obvious that zimmer pulled a gun out to threaten martin while illegally detaining him and ended up discharged it during the scuffle.

JB50 posted:

So you reject the facts that came out of the trial and insert your own. Got it.

ArbitraryC posted:

There is literally no evidence that happened. Zimmer's story basically boils down to him being ambushed and pulling out the gun after the fact, which is how he got off on any charges because as the person on trial someone else would have to prove that didn't happen and between lack of witnesses and the police literally not investigating at all when they got to the original scene, there wasn't good enough evidence to convict him. As much as I hate it, I'm glad our justice system works that way because I'd rather that happen then someone who legitimately got ambushed and used lethal force in self defense being unable to prove that's what happened. However, since the martin incident we've had zimmer pull a gun out in nonviolent confrontations with his girlfriend and (iirc) strangers. If this is a consistent part of his behavior and he had initially pulled his gun on and threatened martin before they fought, which I suspect is true, he would have been convicted of murder because you're not actually allowed to do that. Martin attacking him would have been considered valid self defense.

Basically the only reason the trial played out the way it did is because martin was dead.

JB50 posted:

So you reject the facts that came out of the trial and insert your own. Got it.

ArbitraryC posted:

There weren't facts that came out in the trial, he wasn't ruled innocent he was ruled not guilty due to lack of sufficient evidence to convict him on the charges he faced because he literally killed the only other witness to the event. I'm saying that yes, in light of him picking fights with people and pulling a gun on them since the incident, it seems likely on retrospect that's exactly what he did with martin.

Ork of Fiction posted:

Haha, yeah. I'm just loving around and saying it in the most incriminating way possible. But, according to the girl who Martin was talking to on the phone, Martin noticed Zimmerman following him and went to confront the man, at which point, there was an altercation. Zimmy's history shows he's the one more likely to take it to blows, but Trayvon could have just gone home and it wouldn't have meant poo poo.