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big black turnout
Jan 13, 2009



Fallen Rib

ghlbtsk posted:

You know what we should call it . . .



a bad show? idgi

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Sunshine Mix
Jun 11, 2009
once Comrade Sanders is in power all will work for the good of zu rodina

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord

Sunshine Mix posted:

once Comrade Sanders is in power all will work for the good of zu rodina

i think sanders owns and is the best of all the candidates

MONKEY TRASH!
Jan 8, 2006

until we suffer a true disaster that either prevents us from stuffing our face or kills our netflix machines we'll never bother with the effort of fascism

Buffer Overflow
Sep 3, 2006
Interweb Addict
Because the Cheney regime thought that invading a couple of countries and creating the gitmo summer fun camp wasn't quite a big enough tip off that the US had slipped completely into fascism.

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot

Amarcarts posted:

If you vote Democrat

ahaha drat man warn us before you say something this funny, i just spilt cherry coke all over my keyboard. You owe me a new keyboard

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Buffer Overflow posted:

Because the Cheney regime thought that invading a couple of countries and creating the gitmo summer fun camp wasn't quite a big enough tip off that the US had slipped completely into fascism.

fascist societies are notorious for having very large portions of the population complaining about fascism at any given moment

City of Tampa
May 6, 2007

by zen death robot

Fojar38 posted:

fascist societies are notorious for having very large portions of the population complaining about fascism at any given moment

a very large portion of the American public regularly complains that we are not fascist enough

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Fojar38 posted:

fascist societies are notorious for having very large portions of the population complaining about fascism at any given moment

weve combined an entertainment-based socially open society with a surveillance state which monitors all citizens and wages endless war. its pretty amazing imo

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

That Robot posted:

thank you for the thoughtful response

some people really want to poo poo up this thread with kneejerk references to china

too bad they're trolls who are assholes irl

Sick post.

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord

City of Tampa posted:

a very large portion of the American public regularly complains that we are not fascist enough

ya

that's the tea party and libertarians for ya

RaceBannon
Apr 3, 2010

nomadologique posted:

almost every culture and language has done this, op

that doesn't really "explain" it but it makes it a lot less surprising

This is the right answer to this stupid question.

Amarcarts
Feb 21, 2007

This looks a lot like suffering.
It's really crazy when you look at the world through the lens of the concept that everything is just office politics.

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord

RaceBannon posted:

This is the right answer to this stupid question.

why is it a stupid question to inquire about the origins of a phrase

RaceBannon
Apr 3, 2010

That Robot posted:

why is it a stupid question to inquire about the origins of a phrase

because comparing it to Nazi Germany is stupid when it's really common for a people to call their nation a homeland or the equivalent variant

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord

RaceBannon posted:

because comparing it to Nazi Germany is stupid when it's really common for a people to call their nation a homeland or the equivalent variant

not in the US. we never called it "the Homeland" before 9/11

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

That Robot posted:

not in the US. we never called it "the Homeland" before 9/11

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

RaceBannon posted:

because comparing it to Nazi Germany is stupid when it's really common for a people to call their nation a homeland or the equivalent variant

Also after the Nazis took over they won a few wars at first.

RaceBannon
Apr 3, 2010

That Robot posted:

not in the US. we never called it "the Homeland" before 9/11

never ever.

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord

RaceBannon posted:

never ever.

what is the source of this contrariness of yours

Errant Gin Monks
Oct 2, 2009

"Yeah..."
- Marshawn Lynch
:hawksin:
Be ause the USA is the birthplace of white exceptionalism. Duh.

There were never any brown people here until illegal Mexicans invaded. /sarcasm

TEAYCHES
Jun 23, 2002

Errant Gin Monks posted:

Be ause the USA is the birthplace of white exceptionalism. Duh.

There were never any brown people here until illegal Mexicans invaded. /sarcasm

thanks for the sarcasm indicator

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!
Since the colombus day anti-colonialist arguments are coming up, how can i best find a native american community and tell them "I'm not sorry, i'm glad white people took your land". I can get 3 or 4 protesters at the bus stop, but i dont feel like that's really worth the effort.

MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Sep 30, 2015

Masturbasturd
Sep 1, 2014
Just one letter way from "Homoland" i.e. forced gay FEMA orgy camps, gay abortions, and sexual slavery as one of Obama's concubines, hth.

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot
fascism is a force apparent in humanity only recently given name-branding. the fasces is an ancient symbol and that which it represents is older still


i believe zizek is correct when he says that liberal socialists must reconcile democracy with fascism, how this may be achieved, well, that's something upon which I wouldn't dare opine

Justin Godscock
Oct 12, 2004

Listen here, funnyman!
Ever since a bunch of brown people decided to take flying lessons and lessen the New York skyline.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!

Justin Godscock posted:

Ever since a bunch of brown people decided to take flying lessons and lessen the New York skyline.

Funny story: I went to the same flight school as some of them did.

About 20% of my friends who graduated with me crashed and died in the 10 years since. Its practically school spirit at this point.

huskarl_marx
Oct 13, 2013

by zen death robot

Justin Godscock posted:

Ever since a bunch of brown people decided to take flying lessons and lessen the New York skyline.

uh huh but the USA has existed with far greater external threats without getting all 'oo rah charge up san juan hill' or 'aaaaa vaterland' what changed with the dissolution of the spanish empire and the adoption of special imperial zones (protectorates etc)?

RaceBannon
Apr 3, 2010

That Robot posted:

what is the source of this contrariness of yours

piss and vinegar

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
Cool thread just wanted to chime in that America is fascist on a global level and no other country can stop us

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

Toadvine posted:

Cool thread just wanted to chime in that America is fascist on a global level and no other country can stop us

Afghanistan and Iraq lookin' good. Tell your PTSD soldiers with guns in their mouths it was a good effort.

MattD1zzl3
Oct 26, 2007
Probation
Can't post for 4 years!

Agag posted:

Afghanistan and Iraq lookin' good. Tell your PTSD soldiers with guns in their mouths it was a good effort.

I was in ROTC in 2001, a senior in high school. Lots of my friends went to serve in Afghanistan and Iraq. I said "gently caress that", dropped out, and grew my hair long and did drugs for 10 years.

I regret nothing, all those people died for pretty much nothing. Sitting in a base masterbating ,getting rocket attacked at night and occasionally leaving with hummers to be sniped at or helicopters that crash is not protecting America in any way. I guess it looks great on a resume, but I've got all my arms and legs.

MattD1zzl3 fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Sep 30, 2015

Humboldt Squid
Jan 21, 2006

huskarl_marx posted:

uh huh but the USA has existed with far greater external threats without getting all 'oo rah charge up san juan hill' or 'aaaaa vaterland' what changed with the dissolution of the spanish empire and the adoption of special imperial zones (protectorates etc)?

Got better at propaganda. Look how lame and crude advertising from back when looks compared to now.

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
Not only do we have police officers murdering minorities at home we have flying robots murdering our enemies abroad, striking fear into the hearts of many.

the tacit agreement of the world to recognize America as the global police force speaks volumes to how fascist we are. we're not 1930s fascist though, that only happens if the right republicans get elected, or we get rocked by another terrorist attack. we're technocapitalist neo-fascists and our imperial icon is the $

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
Oh cool so you just changed the definition of fascism to keep the emotional impact while completely losing the meaning. You're like the insane people who think that ogling a lady is tantamount to rape.

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.
no I just mean authoritarian nationalism applied to a new global political sphere.

hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

Toadvine posted:

Not only do we have police officers murdering minorities at home we have flying robots murdering our enemies abroad, striking fear into the hearts of many.

the tacit agreement of the world to recognize America as the global police force speaks volumes to how fascist we are. we're not 1930s fascist though, that only happens if the right republicans get elected, or we get rocked by another terrorist attack. we're technocapitalist neo-fascists and our imperial icon is the $

Fascism is about control and imposing order. The US is more like a street gang. Sure, you can murder some poor kid in a driveby/drone strike and nobody ends up getting in trouble, but its not quite the Roman empire.

Also, American military adventures lose trillions. Empires are supposed to be about making money, not driving your debt-to-GDP ratio over %100.

thathonkey
Jul 17, 2012
i dont and have never heard anybody refer to it besides the "dept of homeland security"

That Robot
Sep 16, 2004

ask me anything about robots
Buglord
American military adventures sounds like a gi joke knock-off lol

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hohhat
Sep 25, 2014

That Robot posted:

American military adventures sounds like a gi joke knock-off lol

Owned.

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