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Inkspot posted:They already had a stockade built. Why would they already have a stockade built? Maybe they raided a renn faire.
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Were Tandy and Carol together when they met Melissa? Wouldn't be surprised if he tried to lie about the existence of Carol for a while.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:04
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PittTheElder posted:Were Tandy and Carol together when they met Melissa? Wouldn't be surprised if he tried to lie about the existence of Carol for a while. They had just got married when they crashed into her. She met them both at the same time. She's actually the one who told him she was horny and wanted to have sex with him.
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PittTheElder posted:Were Tandy and Carol together when they met Melissa? Wouldn't be surprised if he tried to lie about the existence of Carol for a while. He only lied about Carol to Erica and Gail.
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Inkspot posted:They already had a stockade built. Why would they already have a stockade built? FYI you are asking this about a show that began the season with Tandy driving a Stealth Bomber around on the ground. Not sure this is a real productive avenue.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:55
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So have the writers ever commented on why this show is all about Phil getting his comeuppance for being horrible, but the other characters except Carol are all awful as well yet we're supposed to view them as the morally superior salt of the earth?
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Beeez posted:So have the writers ever commented on why this show is all about Phil getting his comeuppance for being horrible, but the other characters except Carol are all awful as well yet we're supposed to view them as the morally superior salt of the earth? Are we? I'm not sure where you're getting that at all.
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Oct 26, 2015 02:33
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Oh god Carol, mash the crickets first.
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Oct 26, 2015 02:34
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Bacon.
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Oct 26, 2015 02:40
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Oct 26, 2015 02:41
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This is in a very dark and bacon place, I think the fat guys going turbo heel
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Maxwell Lord posted:Are we? I'm not sure where you're getting that at all. Every time Phil has screwed up, he gets a punishment from God or Karma or whatever it's supposed to be, or the other characters. In the meantime, every time any character except Todd occasionally does anything lovely they pretty much get away with it and it's treated as part of Phil's comeuppance if their shittiness is directed his way. But a lot of what they do, even to Phil who deserves some consequences for his actions, is vindictive and cruel, and in the case of last week's episode, disproportionate to what Phil did. So where's their karma or comeuppance? Will Ferrell's character was said to be a racist misogynist, but they still mourned his death. The only times I can think of any character except Phil and Todd being portrayed as wrong in their actions is when Carol admitted it wasn't fair to make Phil honor their marriage-under-duress-and-false-pretenses, and when Carol acknowledged that Other Phil was actually willing to leave a man to die in the desert. I know the premise is that Phil is a crazy douche who becomes a better man, but that doesn't mean the other characters are all good folks just because they're foils to Phil.
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Beeez posted:Every time Phil has screwed up, he gets a punishment from God or Karma or whatever it's supposed to be, or the other characters. In the meantime, every time any character except Todd occasionally does anything lovely they pretty much get away with it and it's treated as part of Phil's comeuppance if their shittiness is directed his way. Except last week I really didn't see the writers as treating Phil's punishment as truly "just". They were clearly going over the top. We've seen the other characters arguing amongst each other, keeping secrets, etc.- they're all flawed. Maybe Phil gets dumped on more than he deserves but it's not casting the others as saints.
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Maxwell Lord posted:Except last week I really didn't see the writers as treating Phil's punishment as truly "just". They were clearly going over the top. We've seen the other characters arguing amongst each other, keeping secrets, etc.- they're all flawed. Maybe Phil gets dumped on more than he deserves but it's not casting the others as saints. Well, I guess I'm questioning how they want us to interpret these characters, then. That was why I asked if anyone had seen/read anything by the writers that commented on it.
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Oct 26, 2015 02:51
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They ate a LOT of bacon.
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That resolved fairly quickly.
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Don't you have to execute Tandy now?
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This was actually a pretty fun episode. No one was really overbearing, and it all came back to a decent redemption with Tandy and Todd. One would think they'd move to the house with electricity or somehow transfer the solar panels to the beach house to get something working (as I recall Phil was working on solar panels back in Tucson, so he would have some knowledge of how to do it), but then again they haven't even started a garden or something similar as the food around them expires. I really hope next week doesn't return to the status quo judging from the preview.
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Oct 26, 2015 06:41
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I liked this episode. I think it gave some vindication to season 1 Tandy. He was totally right, you really can't trust the fats.
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Oct 26, 2015 08:02
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That's a terrible way to prepare crickets. You are supposed to kill them by putting them in a freezer for a while. Then you have to remove the legs, since they are barbed and can get stuck in your throat. Afterwards you fry them in a pan with a hint of soy sauce. Now you can eat them like you would eat chips, together with dips. Also you shouldn't eat wild crickets. They are stuffed with parasites.
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Oct 26, 2015 09:30
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Another good episode, I just wonder how much Alpha Phil can take before his true colours show to the rest of the group
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Oct 26, 2015 09:54
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So Tandy can get far enough into a military base to steal a stealth bomber but they couldn't grab a few hundred cases of MRE?
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Oct 26, 2015 11:36
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Personally, I love that they have an entire world of resources at their fingertips, all the cars, fuel, shopping centers, libraries, fully self-sufficient and powered houses, etc., and they can't figure out how to live sustainably or avoid having to eat crickets. Tandy's actually the best mad genius of the bunch now that Phil isn't following through on any solar panel and gardening plans, at least he's rigging up train messages and developing wild new garbage disposal methods. I hope Tandy's brother gets to Earth and sets up his own elaborately awesome self-sufficient compound within, like, a month, and then Tandy and co. stumble on it and wreck it within a week.
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Oct 26, 2015 12:27
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I think the problem is that they haven't had to figure out how to grow their own food since they were just scavenging. Unfortunately it is now long enough since society ended that everything is getting past its expiration date.
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Oct 26, 2015 12:39
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Carol has a garden with fresh produce and Tandy has started a farm. Phil is an idiot who doesn't know nearly as much as he pretends he does.
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Oct 26, 2015 14:59
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The show will definitely show more unsympathetic aspects of Phil in future episodes now that we're pretty familiar with Tandy and Todd's. We already seen big hints of it. I am curious when we'll see Jason Sudeikis again. Is he really going to be a once-a-season thing?
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Oct 26, 2015 15:15
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There is an interesting paralel between this and the first season. In the first episode, Phil ends up being alone on a road trip before moving back to Tuscon. In the second episode, he does his best to keep Charol in his life. The third episode deals with lying to Mellisa and Tandy making terrible decisions. (That's a weak argument, I know.) The fourth one is all about Tandy degrading himself in order to regain trust. And now the fifth one focuses on Todd. If you consider episodes 2 and 3 of the first season linked all of that fits there as well. I predict that Tandy will regain everyones trust in the order he met them. Melissa is an exception, since that just didn't work at all. Based on that, I would guess that Phil will show how agressive and unsocial he actually is around episode 10. And in two episodes the cow will die. And the astronaut will appear in the finale.
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muscles like this? posted:I think the problem is that they haven't had to figure out how to grow their own food since they were just scavenging. Unfortunately it is now long enough since society ended that everything is getting past its expiration date. From what I gather, the expiration date on canned good is pretty much a cover-our-rear end thing, As long as the can is intact, those green beans will stay good forever. Decent episode altogether. I expected Todd to be off masturbating to a basement full of anime, but oh well.
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Gynovore posted:From what I gather, the expiration date on canned good is pretty much a cover-our-rear end thing, As long as the can is intact, those green beans will stay good forever Yeah I was thinking the same thing whole episode. Forget the bacon (which would have an expiry date even while frozen yeah? Or is that another one we can safely ignore?), I'd be stockpiling the cans that people didn't want to eat due to sell by dates.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Yeah I was thinking the same thing whole episode. Forget the bacon (which would have an expiry date even while frozen yeah? Or is that another one we can safely ignore?), I'd be stockpiling the cans that people didn't want to eat due to sell by dates. Depends on how frozen it is. Processed meats like bacon can stay edible for long periods frozen, of course there's a difference between edible and tasty.
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EL BROMANCE posted:Forget the bacon (which would have an expiry date even while frozen yeah? If meat is kept continually frozen at under 0°C it's safe to eat pretty much forever. Freezer burn might make it gross, but it'll still be safe.
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greatn posted:Carol has a garden with fresh produce and Tandy has started a farm. Phil is an idiot who doesn't know nearly as much as he pretends he does. He knows how to build stockades.
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Seriously, dudes should have just gone to Utah. Iirc harder-core LDS families are really into having long-term stores of food for whatever reason. But these are also people that couldn't remember/figure out that powdered milk was a thing, so 
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I just want to see some real Phil (Tandy) and Todd high jinks. Some sweet Laurel and Hardy action. It's still slightly better than last season.
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FoxTerrier posted:Seriously, dudes should have just gone to Utah. Iirc harder-core LDS families are really into having long-term stores of food for whatever reason. All the bars appear to still be well stocked so they can always fall back on margarita pools for nutrition.
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NowonSA posted:Personally, I love that they have an entire world of resources at their fingertips, all the cars, fuel, shopping centers, libraries, fully self-sufficient and powered houses, etc., and they can't figure out how to live sustainably or avoid having to eat crickets. Tandy's actually the best mad genius of the bunch now that Phil isn't following through on any solar panel and gardening plans, at least he's rigging up train messages and developing wild new garbage disposal methods. The thing about gasoline is, it actually doesn't store very well. If the canned food had all expired, all the gas in the world would surely be bad. But whatever, this isn't a documentary. shadok posted:If meat is kept continually frozen at under 0°C it's safe to eat pretty much forever. Freezer burn might make it gross, but it'll still be safe. This is true, I can remember reading books as a kid about how they'd find wooly mammoths frozen in the tundra in the 19th and 20th centuries and serve the meat at banquets 
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NowonSA posted:Personally, I love that they have an entire world of resources at their fingertips, all the cars, fuel, shopping centers, libraries, fully self-sufficient and powered houses, etc., and they can't figure out how to live sustainably or avoid having to eat crickets. The thing is, the survivor group seems to have given up on restarting humanity. Last season, Black Phil was going on about how they need farms and irrigation and sustainability, now they're just sitting by the beach drinking wine. If they were serious about getting things back together, they would have moved to any of California's bazillion farms and started growing crops, and oh yeah, getting the women pregnant. Of course, like I've said a zillion times before, Maybe I'm Reading Too Much Into A Comedy Show.
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Gynovore posted:The thing is, the survivor group seems to have given up on restarting humanity. Last season, Black Phil was going on about how they need farms and irrigation and sustainability, now they're just sitting by the beach drinking wine. If they were serious about getting things back together, they would have moved to any of California's bazillion farms and started growing crops, and oh yeah, getting the women pregnant. Yeah, you can't really go in expecting realism out of what is probably the cleanest, most well-manicured depiction of the post-apocalypse ever.
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They should make another show like gilligan's island. Instead of stranded on a deserted island they are the last people on earth and then say its a comedy but make it boring and annoying.
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