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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Gonzo McFee posted:

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/panicked-super-rich-buying-boltholes-5044084

The Super Rich are buying up land in New Zealand to try and avoid the inevitable rise of the proletariat.

Read URL as "super rich buying buttholes", and my only surprise was the mirror's choice of language

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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That noted socialist institution - consumer rights protection - has somehow slipped an extra ace into its hand under the Tories' watch

quote:

New consumer protection measures - including longer refund rights - have come into force under the Consumer Rights Act.

For the first time anyone who buys faulty goods will be entitled to a full refund for up to 30 days after the purchase. Previously consumers were only entitled to refunds for a "reasonable time".

There will also be new protection for people who buy digital content, such as ebooks or online films and music.

The Act also covers second-hand goods, when bought through a retailer.

People buying services - like a garage repair or a haircut - will also have stronger rights.

Under the new Act, providers who do not carry out the work with reasonable care, as agreed with the consumer, will be obliged to put things right. Or they may have to give some money back.

"The new laws coming in today should make it easier for people to understand and use their rights, regardless of what goods or services they buy," said Gillian Guy the chief executive of Citizens Advice.

When disputes occur, consumers will now be able to take their complaints to certified Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) providers, a cheaper route than going through the courts.

The Consumer Rights Act says that goods must be of satisfactory quality, based on what a reasonable person would expect, taking into account the price must be fit for purpose. If the consumer has a particular purpose in mind, he or she should make that clear must meet the expectations of the consumer. The Act has been welcomed by many consumer rights groups and further information can be found here. https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/about-us/how-citizens-advice-works/citizens-advice-consumer-work/the-consumer-rights-act-2015/

"Now, if you buy a product - whether physical or digital - and discover a fault within 30 days you'll be entitled to a full refund," said Hannah Maundrell, the editor of money.co.uk.

"The party really is over for retailers that try to argue the point."

The Act also enacts a legal change that will enable British courts to hear US-style class action lawsuits, where one or several people can sue on behalf of a much larger group.

It will make it far easier for groups of consumers or small businesses to seek compensation from firms that have fixed prices and formed cartels.

I'm trying to find out who is responsible for this but having trouble finding a vote list. Here's the bill stages if anyone knows how to navigate this website: http://services.parliament.uk/bills/2014-15/consumerrights/stages.html

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Zephro posted:

Aww, what happened to The Hope For Red October?

It was dashed on day 1, like all other hope

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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hookerbot 5000 posted:

Changing refunds from a reasonable time to 30 days might be a bit of an issue. If I bought a washing machine and it broke after 3 months I would have expected my money back as 3 months is not a reasonable amount of time but 30 days (especially for a product that is only used sporadically) might not be long enough for the flaws to be uncovered. These days warranties and stuff make that statutory right kind of a second thought I guess but still I liked the wiggle room of 'reasonable time'.

This I'm not so concerned about, but having read it a second time, the bit that jumps out is

quote:

consumers will now be able to take their complaints to certified Alternative Dispute Resolution (ADR) providers, a cheaper route than going through the courts

This stinks of privatisation of a piece of the judicial process and it would not surprise me one bit if these ADRs turned out to be shoddily certified and basically bought-and-paid-for by retail groups.

I thought something was amiss. To quote myself:

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

It was dashed on day 1, like all other hope

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Phoon posted:

Its funny because if (in the event of parole uprising) the megarich flee to new zealand it wont matter, we can still seize all their assets that arent in new zealand and then theyll just be people living in the middle of nowhere with no income

They only know how to pay people to create new alloys; they're all gonna have to till the soil :laugh:

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Phoon posted:

im sure it will be soon

raises an interesting question, if we did drop trident would the US look for another european country to gain/increase their arsenal?

Do they even need to any more? Their missiles can reach Russia from the US, and I'm sure they have a shitload of subs for when they want to be snuggled up nice and close.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Forums Terrorist posted:

Oh, guess I misremembered. I thought something was linked itt that said the opposite.

Probably something along the lines of "The US wants to be the only country in the world with nuclear weapons" which is almost certainly true if never publicly stated.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Phoon posted:

how would you prepare and cook a pigs head

Normally I would have gone for an oven but now I'm of the opinion that I ought to nuke it before it gains second-strike capability

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Sometimes a serious party of government has to make Tough Choices and if that choice is between innocent civilians living or dying,

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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TomViolence posted:

Why does "making tough choices" always seem to translate to "consistently choosing whichever outcome leads to the most possible suffering for the most possible people?" It really is amazing to me.

Well obviously the opposite choice is the easy choice

Consider:

What shall I have for dinner?

1. Tagliatelle with Mushrooms <- the easy choice
2. Kill everyone on my street with a machete <- the Touch Choice

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Oberleutnant posted:

Breaking my own vow never to engage in nukechat but

You pushed the button and now look, there's pissflaps all over the thread again

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

Comrade Corbyn crashed a hen-do... or rather got on a train which included a hen party

This wouldn't have happened if they had their own train carriages

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Burning a £50 note removes it from the money supply and gives whatever meagre pennies the homeless person might happen to have on him greater purchasing power. Really he should be thankful.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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HYPOCRITE CORBYN RIDES IN FIRST CLASS SECTION

- every paper tomorrow


Edit actually I'm not sure that's first class, the chair behind doesn't seem to have a table. Still, I don't expect facts to make an appearance in the press so they may just make it up and see what happens

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Tesseraction posted:

I went first class because all of normal class was full and I didn't want the doorway seat next to the toilet because someone had used it to drop a nuclear turd.

Why would someone need to go to the toilet to post in UKMT?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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thespaceinvader posted:

On pure numbers, the Falklands belong to the sheep.

Yes but only because by they came along and dropped thousands of anchor babies. I think the penguins have a stronger claim as it was their ancestral homeland.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Semprini posted:

What's the rules on immigration to the Falklands? Have the Argentinians considered entryism?

I think the UK controls immigration to the islands, even British citizens can't settle there without some sort of permit.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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A big thanks to whoever it was that linked to the Great War channel on youtube a couple threads back, I've learned more than I ever learned in school from just a few videos and i'm binge-watching it today

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Oberleutnant posted:

Lmao if you dont secure you lebensraum in standard class through tactical deployment of bags on neighbouring seats and loud music bleeding through your headphones.

E: this may seem selfish but it's actually principled accelerationsim. :v:

Spluttering coughs timed to coincide with when a potential seat-taker walks past and eyeballs your bag-laden seat will also help deter them.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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OwlFancier posted:

I mean seriously when have jet pilots ever done anything in the last 30 years that wasn't dropping bombs on people who can't fight back? gently caress em, they signed up to kill people with impunity.

Do you take this view of any technological development in warfare

"artillery is cheating!" - OwlFancier, 1865

"guns are cheating!" - OwlFancier, 1543

"bows and arrows are cheating!" - OwlFancier, date unknown

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Ernie Muppari posted:

that can't be the case, i mean if we were the bad guys wouldn't we have like, jerk birds and fasces and skulls on our stuff?



An enslaved unicorn and a lion

Who enslaves a unicorn???

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

How do you know this?

I guess nobody knows. What we need here is some sort of court where evidence can be weig- oh wait it's too late

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Pissflaps posted:

I think we can exercise our judgement to include only those who are members of organisations that produce such videos.

You mean the government can exercise their judgement

I do sure like the government exercising their judgement, i mean nobody else is going to exercise it, certainly not people whose careers are in exercising judgement

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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thespaceinvader posted:

It is hilarious that the Tories somehow think this is satire instead of sensible economics.

(sorry for buzzfeed, can't obviously find it anywhere else)

http://www.buzzfeed.com/sirajdatoo/its-raining-corbyn-pounds#.ink5OAYw6d



I genuinely want some of this, how do i get some?

I want some to be in my wallet at all times

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Lugaloco posted:

e: Cameron's line near the beginning pretty much sums up Tory policy: "The economists can knock around all the arguements and the figures tell us a variety of things... BUT I THINK *vomits uncontrollably*"

This gets truer and truer every day:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBRKPoAPXEQ

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Lugaloco posted:

An interview with John Snow and Cameron:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkjGqOg5-Kw

Snow pushing him on Saudi Arabia was particularly interesting. Dude was practically falling apart during bits of it.

Well I'm glad he was pushing him on something because there this little bit (emphasis in original):

quote:

John: [Will you pledge to do something about it if it turns out the poorest 20% are shafted horribly]

Cameron: Well no we thought very carefully before introducing this change, a change that's passed through parliament, and it's that combination of a national living wage reaching nine pounds, tax cuts so next year you can earn eleven thousand pounds before you pay any income tax and yes, these welfare changes, i know they're, they are difficult decisions, but that combination :siren: I believe is fair :siren:

John: OK now Syria

Me: NO! NO!!! NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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OwlFancier posted:

Or at least cruise missile it. I mean Manchester's alright.

A nuke is more thorough. I think Manchester should take one for the team.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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quote:

Mr Duncan Smith argued that many sick and disabled people wanted to work and that the Government should give them support to find jobs and make sure the welfare system encouraged them to get jobs.

Hey crazy idea but what if the government just gave jobs directly to disabled peoh wait no that's communism haha nearly stepped in that one lol!

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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hookerbot 5000 posted:

It would be interesting to make all politicians write a paragraph on what they consider the role of the government to be.

I'm not sure how much padding you can really add to "more money for us, gently caress you" to make it a paragraph

efb (and by a list no less!!)

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Gonzo McFee posted:

I swear to god.

What the actual Christ

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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XMNN posted:

I hope some really nasty disease sweeps through the conference hall and they all die in agony.

That's already happening, but they're the virus

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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TomViolence posted:

I love the pig-fucker's posturing. Such will. Much triumph.

EDIT: Racking my brains and I just can't for the life of me think of anything significant that happened in a year ending with '39. :iiam:

Really? You can't think of anything? Does the 1639 Treaty of Berwick mean nothing to you?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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JFairfax posted:

wow, so you couldn't actually vote on the issue of Scottish independence. hahah that's loving hilarious.

and so is this:

[i]Drunken Tory went boozing at Manchester conference but woke up in London - after £311 Uber ride

The 19-year-old Conservative activist fell asleep in the back of a taxi and woke up in the capital - with an email receipt for the £311 ride

A young Tory activist went out for a drink at the party's conference in Manchester, only to wake up the next morning in London after a £300 taxi ride.

The 19-year-old student, who has reportedly worked for a Tory MP, was enjoying a boozy night out after George Osborne's speech at the Tory Conference on Monday night.

He ordered an Uber taxi to take him back to his hotel, but fell asleep in the back seat.

But when he awoke he was back at his home in the capital - with an email receipt for the £311 ride.

loving hell could this news article be any more repetitive

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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I'm starting to like this "9/11" guy, done some good stuff

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Really this needs to be in every OP

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Guavanaut posted:

I'm strongly against the idea of state secrets and secret councils. In our country, do we want to allow a means of communication within the government which we the people cannot read?

For too long we have been a passively tolerant society, saying to our governments "as long as you win an election, we'll leave you alone"

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Autonomous Monster posted:

(This will be reported as CORBYN CREATES POLITBURO TO INDOCTRINATE PUBLIC)

People's Momentum

NOW CORBYN WANTS TO NATIONALISE BASIC PRINCIPLES OF KINEMATICS

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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loving hell that is a terrifying halloween costume. Is it the same price as the pig one?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

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Antwan3K posted:

Just make up expert sources esp. when drunk or stoned and the other person isn't going to remember to look them up

Austerity is bullshit

- Albert Einstein

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vvv The commenters are scum (well at least the readers are)

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