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manyak posted:i dont know about that It helps a bit in like, actual wrestling which is why lots of college wrestlers are midgets with giants necks but probably has negligible impact in actual MMA given you know the whole reach advantage thing.
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Le Saboteur posted:2 days to cut like 15 pounds. That is goddamn ridiculous. weigh in is today, so its more like 1 day, to cut 13 pounds. It can be done I guess, but thats just absurd. A lot of fighters are just going to have to move up.
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CommonShore posted:If the UFC has been forcing fighters to change divisions for promotional reasons - Lineker, Gastelum - they should also start forcing fighters to change divisions for health (ethical) reasons. Like Kelvin though, I think Hendricks' issue is just he doesn't manage his weight between camps far more so than it is he legitimately belongs at welterweight. If he kept his diet under control I suspect his weight cuts would be much more reasonable. E: he'd be pretty undersized at middleweight, the issue really is just he's carrying around more pudge than he should.
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Le Saboteur posted:2 days to cut like 15 pounds. That is goddamn ridiculous. No, it isn't. Most dudes are cutting 20 in the last couple days.
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CommonShore posted:If the UFC has been forcing fighters to change divisions for promotional reasons - Lineker, Gastelum - they should also start forcing fighters to change divisions for health (ethical) reasons. It does have to be an objective rule, though. Some states are experimenting with weight class rules which could be interesting, but until that gets figured out, I'd just give every fighter maybe 2 chances in 5 years. If you miss weight twice in any 5 year period without a very good reason (eg, you got the flu and had to hydrate), then you must move up.
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Did he ko chuck while we still thought that was a big deal I don't remember where in the order it came.
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Bluedeanie posted:Like Kelvin though, I think Hendricks' issue is just he doesn't manage his weight between camps far more so than it is he legitimately belongs at welterweight. If he kept his diet under control I suspect his weight cuts would be much more reasonable. If he puts himself in the hospital from a weight cut, no matter the leading causes, he shouldn't be in that division anymore. Like, if he completely overhauls his lifestyle and never goes above 185 between fights, etc etc, then great, let him fight at welterweight, but after this long and this many bad cuts and however many dietitians, do you really think it's going to happen?
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Hendricks should be able to make 170 without any issue. He has the same issue Kelvin has. Between fights he gets fat as poo poo and then (probably) even during camp as some of that weight is coming off he's probably still not eating totally clean and he winds up starting his weight cut way too loving heavy. If he kept his walk around weight in the 190's he would have no issue.
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CommonShore posted:never goes above 185 between fights you could probably count the number of welterweights who don't go above 185 between fights on one severely maimed hand
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acai moonsault posted:Hendricks vs Woodley is off the card due to Hendricks weight cut issues. - @danawhite I was really looking forward to that fight. Hendricks needs to stop being a fat gently caress that endangers his health and get serious about his conditioning.
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I didn't want to see either of them win so this works for me.
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Keven. Just. Keven posted:Did he ko chuck while we still thought that was a big deal I don't remember where in the order it came. Yeah, it was considered an upset at the time
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CommonShore posted:If he puts himself in the hospital from a weight cut, no matter the leading causes, he shouldn't be in that division anymore. Like, if he completely overhauls his lifestyle and never goes above 185 between fights, etc etc, then great, let him fight at welterweight, but after this long and this many bad cuts and however many dietitians, do you really think it's going to happen? Fighters that walk around at 185-190 are fighting at lightweight. Hendricks has bad cuts for the same reason Cormier nearly killed his kidneys in 2008: he's fat. If he wasn't so fat, he could make welterweight just fine.
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acai moonsault posted:Hendricks vs Woodley is off the card due to Hendricks weight cut issues. - @danawhite 1st AD posted:Woodley is hungrier, because he diets more than Hendricks. Because he's not fat and he doesn't own a steak house.
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afatwhiteloaf posted:Fighters that walk around at 185-190 are fighting at lightweight. Hendricks has bad cuts for the same reason Cormier nearly killed his kidneys in 2008: he's fat. If he wasn't so fat, he could make welterweight just fine. I know that Hendricks could theoretically make welterweight just fine, but at this point I think we have to assume he doesn't want to do what it takes to stay healthy and make the weight. So, whether a fighter can't make weight for physical or mental reasons, either way they gotta move up after they have too many problems.
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david carmichael posted:taking down rampage seems a lot less impressive now than it did then, but that was still a cool combo Insert glover's ankle pick on rampage here.
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http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/10/2/9439841/johny-hendricks-forced-out-of-ufc-192-fight-after-being-rushed-to Woodly is pissed. Tells Dana "gently caress you pay me" and wants a title shot now.
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Ty1990 posted:http://www.mmafighting.com/2015/10/2/9439841/johny-hendricks-forced-out-of-ufc-192-fight-after-being-rushed-to He's right.
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I had a dream and in that dream Hendricks vs Woodley was boring as gently caress so thank you Johny Hendricks for being so fat
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He should (and likely will) get paid but I dunno about getting a title shot off a canceled fight. Anyone that he can go against on the next card?
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My friend is backing out of going to 194 cause ticket prices are way too high. Was really excited to go back there and finally see the match I went to 189 too see. I will probably just see wait 200 will be and attempt to go out for that one. This day sucks.
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Keven. Just. Keven posted:Did he ko chuck while we still thought that was a big deal I don't remember where in the order it came. it was a big deal (chuck had just beat wanderlei in their really good fight), and it earned rashad a shot at actual champion forest griffin
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quote:He was rushed to the emergency room and had to be given an IV.
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According to Helwani, Hendricks is going to seriously think about moving to 185.
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never forget https://vine.co/v/MbF6v1h2uhv
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Northjayhawk posted:According to Helwani, Hendricks is going to seriously think about moving to 185. 
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I can't wait for him to move to 185, get sparked and fade into irrelevancy.
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Time to go home, sit on the couch, stuff your face with cream cake and wonder aloud via Twitter why Carlos is getting a title shot
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Joe B vs Ali is being bumped to the main card. They are not making it easy for me to finish this GDT!
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david carmichael posted:it was a big deal (chuck had just beat wanderlei in their really good fight), and it earned rashad a shot at actual champion forest griffin also in that fight Rashad really didnt even look good, Chuck was deep into his completely retarded phase . rashad threw that right over and over and was getting clowned but chuck did that thing where hes like hey im winning that means I should stop defending myself and swing wildly
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And Im glad Jhn Hendricks missed weight after bitching that he deserved a title shot 
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Bundt Cake posted:And Im glad Jhn Hendricks missed weight after bitching that he deserved a title shot Same. The MMA gods are benevolent and funny.
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CommonShore posted:If the UFC has been forcing fighters to change divisions for promotional reasons - Lineker, Gastelum - they should also start forcing fighters to change divisions for health (ethical) reasons. nah the UFC will just ban all coaching staff that aren't approved by UFC. Because that's the route they're going: All UFC everything.
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Bundt Cake posted:also in that fight Rashad really didnt even look good, Chuck was deep into his completely retarded phase . rashad threw that right over and over and was getting clowned but chuck did that thing where hes like hey im winning that means I should stop defending myself and swing wildly yeah rashad was clearly in love with his overhand right and he never seemed to stop being in love with it ever after that
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Bundt Cake posted:And Im glad Jhn Hendricks missed weight after bitching that he deserved a title shot I would've rather had the good fighter manage his weight and fight instead of not.
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Seltzer posted:I would've rather had the good fighter manage his weight and fight instead of not. Lacks dramatic irony
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Seltzer posted:I would've rather had the good fighter manage his weight and fight instead of not. Same tbh. It's just disappointing more than anything.
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@KevinI: Just spoke with @danawhite and he said @TWooodley will get the title shot next, fighting Lawler-Condit winner. My post will be live soon. @KevinI: Also, @danawhite said he considers @JohnyHendricks a middleweight as of now. @MarcRatnerUFC confirmed JH was 20-25 pounds over on Tuesday Hardbody Jones fucked around with this message at 18:13 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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Bluedeanie posted:Same tbh. It's just disappointing more than anything. I disagree. Hendricks humiliating himself with saturated fat mere days after his whining is way more entertaining than that fight would ever have been.
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