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A doubling of the population over 30 years isn't a huge annual increase. I think it'd be about twice what we take now.
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It's probably worth making it clear what you actually mean when you say open borders. Like if you genuinely mean no border control whatsoever or just a different type of border control.
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Oct 1, 2015 05:11
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Well yeah, exactly. Would we still extradite people to face charges in other countries?
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Oct 1, 2015 05:19
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They just don't want a repeat of this http://www.smh.com.au/world/daughter-of-wealthy-german-businessman-killed-in-botched-kidnapping-20150818-gj2by8.html
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Oct 1, 2015 06:36
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It's the same reason they're against open borders.
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Oct 1, 2015 06:49
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SeekOtherCandidate posted:we call this "doing a Rudd" Rudd was reasonably popular though. No one likes Abbott except for people like Abbott, who are a minority in the public and in the party. After Rudd was knifed everyone seemed a bit shocked, they just seem relieved this time.
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Oct 2, 2015 02:53
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It seems kind of tasteless to brag about how much better our country is than some other country. I mean, even if it's true who does it help?
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ewe2 posted:What a perfect circle, demonise them, get hysterical about browns, and yay we have an event to ratchet up the fear and hate, guess where: Zacky Mallah was right.
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Oct 3, 2015 02:45
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Halo14 posted:Haha those Chaser guys up to no good again! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwrbyVaC6EU
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Oct 5, 2015 00:19
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"... and Christ knows you wouldn't want to send them to a Government school, especially if we get elected."
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Oct 5, 2015 03:09
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What kind of difference does it make if it was terrorism or not? I know it's fun to complain about the Telegraph being hysterical and all, but honestly who cares? Is it something like 'Well if they can show it was terrorism then they'll have more legitimacy when they try to take away our rights to counter it'? Because it seems like you'd have to buy into the idea that taking away your rights to fight terrorism is an acceptable thing to do for that to be an issue. open24hours fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Oct 5, 2015 |
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Oct 5, 2015 03:19
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Gorilla Salad posted:How very white of you. Which part exposes my whiteness?
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Oct 5, 2015 05:51
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Negligent posted:Could you put people on small planes and fly into a remote part of northern Australia undetected? Does border fart have an air fart? Drone people.
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Oct 5, 2015 09:57
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Malcolm Turnbull’s dispatch of Tony Abbott from the prime ministership settled a score that had been festering from the moment Abbott became opposition leader. They are very different people. Poor baby lost his 'job'. Turnbull's republican movement will probably end up just like John Key's flag movement: options so terrible we might as well leave things the way they are. open24hours fucked around with this message at 00:57 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oct 6, 2015 00:55
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Two party system. Nothing to be gained by standing out, just hang around long enough and you'll end up in government.
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Oct 6, 2015 01:12
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But they hold back the economy! [EDIT: I don't suppose anyone knows if there's been anything written about the effects of penalty rates on economic growth?]
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Seagull posted:so is the seven day economy working seven days straight or are we giving the soviet method a go and assigning two days off randomly to everyone This would really be the most efficient way. Make sure no one in the same family has the same days off either so they don't waste their energy on holidays or other distractions from work.
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freebooter posted:How long have we actually had penalty rates? I know the most recent reworking of them was in 2010 but I know I was getting extra weekend cash when I worked at Coles around 2007. That's obviously why the UK and New Zealand outperform us by so much, nothing holding their economies back. Labor could counter this pretty easily if they weren't so terrified of the mythical small business owning Western Sydney wingnut.
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Oct 6, 2015 02:44
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A true conservative would force the shops to close on Sundays.
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Oct 6, 2015 03:04
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Amethyst posted:Seriously. What the hell happened to "conservatives"? I guess if the old order you want to restore is actually medieval feudalism they're being consistent. I don't think they've existed in Australia in my lifetime. The social conservatism is just our take on the Southern Strategy from the US, preying on the neuroses of idiots who think things like same sex marriage matter and are willing to give up things that actually do prevent it.
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Oct 6, 2015 03:17
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It's not really about punishing the poor, it just has the effect of punishing the poor and no one with any influence cares. Paramedics have a more prestigious job than retail workers and a much better union, so they'll probably be fairly safe. Same deal with police and other jobs that people are sympathetic towards. It's not based on an informed philosophy about agile economies or whatever the current buzzword is, it's literally just companies wanting to make more money and seeing that cutting wages is much easier than innovating.
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Oct 6, 2015 03:54
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Serrath posted:There must be an argument that the conservatives are using to justify the double standard, though... how do they sell this policy, it's obviously hypocritical; how do they respond when they're asked why they're maintaining this standard for one profession and not another? Even when they're being disingenuous, they usually at least provide <an> explanation. It's old fashioned, see, you wouldn't want an old economy, would you?
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Oct 6, 2015 03:59
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They just refuse to answer the question and/or obfuscate. You can see it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oij9wQFmpuI Our political debates aren't based on fact.
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Oct 6, 2015 04:15
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It's also easier to push the ~small business~ line for hospitality and retail. Not many small business owners run a police force so it's easier to pretend it's about Joe Fuckwit struggling to make ends meet and not CEOs and shareholders being upset that they have to buy 100' instead of 200' yachts.
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Oct 6, 2015 04:37
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The ban on ISIS flags is crypto-protectionism and will be dismantled under the TPP.
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Oct 6, 2015 12:14
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Why would Skynet care about building an economy? Only humans are dumb enough to waste our lives chasing figures.
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Oct 7, 2015 03:27
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Well why shouldn't everyone pitch in to help private businesses make more money? It's only fair. Just like compensating for increased GST through reduced stamp duty. Everyone buys houses, everyone owns a business, and everyone pays GST, so everyone benefits equally.
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Oct 7, 2015 03:56
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Les Affaires posted:In the short term maybe, as businesses adjust, but long term you'd expect margins and profits to return back to where they are now as competition takes over. Those business owners will just find something else to complain about, like the award system or minimum wage. Of course they will, I'm sure they'll be angling for some other type of tax cut. The people who stand to benefit the most from this kind of thing are companies like Woolworths and Coles and McDonalds who will have managed to shift what is probably many billions of dollars of costs onto the government for absolutely no public benefit whatsoever.
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You Am I posted:My question is: since the shoot was a believer in the Muslim faith, thus the police were quick to call it a terrorist act, does this mean Ned Kelly was a terrorist, as he shot police and was a part of a then hated religion (Catholicism, which disliked pretty heavily by Protestants) and from a disadvantaged race (Irish)? Sure why not. http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/201730328?searchTerm=%22kelly%20gang%22%20terror&searchLimits=l-decade=187 http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/148526893?searchTerm=%22kelly%20gang%22%20terrorism&searchLimits=l-decade=187
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On the bright side we're getting some variety in absolutely terrible journalism. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/oct/08/we-still-know-very-little-about-violent-extremism-and-your-theories-arent-helping
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Oct 8, 2015 03:30
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Amethyst posted:I think he agrees with the critique in the article he posted. Not really. Some of her points are reasonable but she's all over the place. "...the current younger, fresher and angrier crop of violent extremists" reads like a quote from the Simpsons and "They were, as difficult as it may be to accept, active participants in their own radicalisation. Their choices were wrong and misguided, but they were their choices nonetheless." is an absolutely bizarre claim to make about to make about children bordering on victim blaming and seems at odds with an article saying we shouldn't speculate. Implying that that he was a willing participant with full agency is just as counterproductive as implying that he was brainwashed.
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Oct 8, 2015 04:05
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Perhaps there's a good reason to separate the actions of 15 year old you know almost nothing about from the actions of another 100 'lone jihadists' rather than trying to conflate them, especially if you're trying to argue against speculation.
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Sure, but it would probably help if people knew what what actually occurred during the event they are trying to contextualize before writing an article about it.
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Oct 8, 2015 04:25
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I don't know why he's bothering to run outside of Victoria.
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Oct 12, 2015 01:34
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7000 orders for an $800 gun. Cripes I should get into gun importing.
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Oct 13, 2015 00:12
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Gorbash posted:Yes, it does. 
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Oct 13, 2015 01:35
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There's no prohibition on conflicts of interest for MPs, is there? They just have to disclose it?
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Oct 13, 2015 03:13
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Ban pets altogether. They're terrible for the environment in more ways than just killing wildlife.
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