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Skinny King Pimp
Aug 25, 2011
Skinny Queen Wimp

Beef Turret posted:

Anyone who says this doesn't know the first thing about it

ok science is boring and repetitive and hard and frustrating and kills your soul

but it also rules so there's that

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Windows 98
Nov 13, 2005

HTTP 400: Bad post
Not every person who doesn't give a poo poo about science is voting for Trump.

But everyone voting for Trump doesn't give a poo poo about science.

5er
Jun 1, 2000

Qapla' to a true warrior! :patriot:

'lol science so stupit' *posts this, using all sorts of technology that stupit science provided for them*

med school head
Apr 17, 2012

Beef Turret posted:

It's not anti-intellectualism to disregard something you haven't been trained to appreciate to any extent. The real idiocy is to pretend these things actually matter to people. They don't. Those two celebs might be dumb but theyre honest, meanwhile the Bill Nye character is exhibiting a trait common to fundamentalists, the belief that something abstract that only a minority of the initiated fully understands, is vitally important to everyone. That's like if I was an industrial designer and called everyone philistines because they don't appreciate the Bauhaus aesthetic... What? You don't care about that? *assumes condescending pose* Well, your iPhone wouldn't look as cool as it does without it ;)

maybe as an adult you should have a little desire to appreciate things even if you don't fully understand them, especially when you have someone really cool like bill nye trying to explain them to you

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

5er posted:

'lol science so stupit' *posts this, using all sorts of technology that stupit science provided for them*

Most of the technology you use wasn't made by institutional scientists or academics but by engineers and tinkerers. Mostly people foreign to institutional science. And exactly nobody outside your cartoon reality believes that science is bad you moron

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
life found on mars! fermi paradox still exists. therefore humanity almost certainly doomed

Sibilant Crisp
Jul 4, 2014

Tezzor posted:

life found on mars! fermi paradox still exists. therefore humanity almost certainly doomed

I like how the Arecibo message is a list of stuff to show aliens how cool and smart we are


also I can't wait for life to be found on another planet mainly because I wanna see how religions cope with it, it'll be very interesting.

5er
Jun 1, 2000

Qapla' to a true warrior! :patriot:

Beef Turret posted:

Most of the technology you use wasn't made by institutional scientists or academics but by engineers and tinkerers. Mostly people foreign to institutional science. And exactly nobody outside your cartoon reality believes that science is bad you moron

I was working off the caricatures presented in that Comedy Central skit, you context deficient dope.

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

5er posted:

I was working off the caricatures presented in that Comedy Central skit, you context deficient dope.

Hmm, okay. You're forgiven

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless
watching two people taking pride in their ignorance is so saddening

Toadvine
Mar 16, 2009
Please disregard my advice w/r/t history.

Madcosby posted:

watching two people taking pride in their ignorance is so saddening

I think they're just trying to expand their audience by showing how funny and relatable they are.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
gently caress the space program!

*uses GPS to get home*

Madcosby
Mar 4, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Toadvine posted:

I think they're just trying to expand their audience by showing how funny and relatable they are.

agreed. :smith:

JazzFlight
Apr 29, 2006

Oooooooooooh!

the nightly show is unwatchable garbage
you cant have a legitimate panel discussion when 2/3 of the guests are just there to crack stupid fart jokes

that burn by bill in the last 10 seconds was great, tho

spank my snatch
Jun 4, 2009

Beef Turret posted:

Un-loving-believeable that people don't care about the latest findings in endocrinology. Don't these fucktards get that we all have these things in our body? Sigh. It's tough to be a genius.

I may not go seeking out the latest findings in endocrinology, but if someone were to fill me in my response would probably be something akin to "Oh, that's interesting" and not "WHAT DO I CARE HOW DOES IT EFFECT ME SCIENCE IS STUPID WHY AREN'T WE FIGHTING ISIS??!?"

The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


the "fuckdamn i love science" facebook page probably has more groupies than mensa

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Beef Turret posted:

Un-loving-believeable that people don't care about the latest findings in endocrinology. Don't these fucktards get that we all have these things in our body? Sigh. It's tough to be a genius.

idk new medical tech or whatever is pretty cool I like to be informed when something groundbreaking happens

Ralp
Aug 19, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

JazzFlight posted:

the nightly show is unwatchable garbage
you cant have a legitimate panel discussion when 2/3 of the guests are just there to crack stupid fart jokes

that burn by bill in the last 10 seconds was great, tho

I like the nightly show when they have some celebrity on and force him or her to uncomfortably confront racism. This was not a very good panel makeup though.

Stoic Commie
Aug 29, 2005

by XyloJW
Is that fat bitch an expert in being loud and asking stupid questions why is she there.

I didn't see any ownage just six minutes of some retards interrupting the science man

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

jiharlequinade posted:

I may not go seeking out the latest findings in endocrinology, but if someone were to fill me in my response would probably be something akin to "Oh, that's interesting" and not "WHAT DO I CARE HOW DOES IT EFFECT ME SCIENCE IS STUPID WHY AREN'T WE FIGHTING ISIS??!?"

Everyone was obviously playing a bit for the comedy show except Bill Nye who seemed clueless about his situation. Did he think he was there to do a lecture or something? Those two celebs were exaggerating not just to set him up as a straight man, but to make a larger point, mocking the fact that he expects people to be as awestruck by space genetics as he is. As if people didn't have other priorities. That he insisted that people are interested shows how credulous he is. The fact that people might have different priorities offends certain religious types. Really, nerds online wouldn't be flipping out over this if it was a conservationist getting heckled while doing a bit about the latest endangered fish or an epidemiologist talking about new disease vectors, both topics of much more interest and importance to our lives than hypothetical space germs

SPACE HOMOS
Jan 12, 2005

Anti-intellectualism is the flipside of intellectual snobbery.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Ralp posted:

I like the nightly show when they have some celebrity on and force him or her to uncomfortably confront racism. This was not a very good panel makeup though.

it was funny when they had on salman rushdie with these clowns with the exact same outcome as the bill nye segment.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Beef Turret posted:

Everyone was obviously playing a bit for the comedy show except Bill Nye who seemed clueless about his situation. Did he think he was there to do a lecture or something? Those two celebs were exaggerating not just to set him up as a straight man, but to make a larger point, mocking the fact that he expects people to be as awestruck by space genetics as he is. As if people didn't have other priorities. That he insisted that people are interested shows how credulous he is. The fact that people might have different priorities offends certain religious types. Really, nerds online wouldn't be flipping out over this if it was a conservationist getting heckled while doing a bit about the latest endangered fish or an epidemiologist talking about new disease vectors, both topics of much more interest and importance to our lives than hypothetical space germs

whatever bitch the only science I like is the sugar -> alcohol + CO2 conversion that makes liquor

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Beef Turret posted:

Everyone was obviously playing a bit for the comedy show except Bill Nye who seemed clueless about his situation. Did he think he was there to do a lecture or something? Those two celebs were exaggerating not just to set him up as a straight man, but to make a larger point, mocking the fact that he expects people to be as awestruck by space genetics as he is. As if people didn't have other priorities. That he insisted that people are interested shows how credulous he is. The fact that people might have different priorities offends certain religious types. Really, nerds online wouldn't be flipping out over this if it was a conservationist getting heckled while doing a bit about the latest endangered fish or an epidemiologist talking about new disease vectors, both topics of much more interest and importance to our lives than hypothetical space germs

I'd get your point more if they weren't talking to bill nye who they presumably invited on their show to talk about science. Like I am personally not the biggest sports fan in the world but if you stuck me in a room with famous athletes and i got to ask them anything I wanted about the games they played you can bet I'd be curious about what they did instead of going "herf derf why should I care you put a ball through a net". Sure you see a facebook post about some new scientific development and you might just go 'cool' and scroll past it, but if you're talking to bill loving nye about it and can't get even a bit interested then you're beyond hope.

As if nasa's budget is even a notable draw from the dod in the first place, "why aren't we going after ISIS instead" jfc you have to be kidding me.

The Brown Menace
Dec 24, 2010

Now comes in all colors.


contrary to popular opinion people don't have poo poo-all to do like 90% of the time

it's cool if you don't care about science poo poo but don't pretend you're busy like some stockbroker yelling into two late 90s ericsson cell phones 24/7

doctor 7
Oct 10, 2003

In the grim darkness of the future there is only Oakley.

The problem with the Nightly Show is that Ricky Valez is lovely and unfunny. I dunno who that girl was but she also was unfunny.

The Nightly Show can have good panels but more often than not they're treated like a idiot's loving joke. Real Talk with Bill Mahr you actually have a decent amount of time for some discussion. Plus people there generally seem to give a poo poo about making a point relevant to the issue rather than just trying to poo poo all over the topic like a "cool" 14 year old.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
nightly show is really bad and larry widmore is less funny than gbs

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

doctor 7 posted:

The problem with the Nightly Show is that Ricky Valez is lovely and unfunny. I dunno who that girl was but she also was unfunny.

The Nightly Show can have good panels but more often than not they're treated like a idiot's loving joke. Real Talk with Bill Mahr you actually have a decent amount of time for some discussion. Plus people there generally seem to give a poo poo about making a point relevant to the issue rather than just trying to poo poo all over the topic like a "cool" 14 year old.

That show was also good for having diverse panels like "Some ivy league professor who's the leading researcher on some arcane disease," "Union leader who wrote a book about being working class in a white collar society," and "Ben Affleck."

BurnBlackJay
May 31, 2011

by Lowtax
felt bad for the old man. he just wana spake about stuff he like's and stupid americans keep trying to sick burn funny him shut up and let he tork

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Beef Turret posted:

Everyone was obviously playing a bit for the comedy show except Bill Nye who seemed clueless about his situation. Did he think he was there to do a lecture or something? Those two celebs were exaggerating not just to set him up as a straight man, but to make a larger point, mocking the fact that he expects people to be as awestruck by space genetics as he is. As if people didn't have other priorities. That he insisted that people are interested shows how credulous he is. The fact that people might have different priorities offends certain religious types. Really, nerds online wouldn't be flipping out over this if it was a conservationist getting heckled while doing a bit about the latest endangered fish or an epidemiologist talking about new disease vectors, both topics of much more interest and importance to our lives than hypothetical space germs

actually mars is cool and good

Federal Preserves
Jun 30, 2011

Or is it right?
"Some people don't give a poo poo about science" is a fine message, because it implies that the problem can be fixed with discussion.

"Some people don't want to listen to poo poo about science" is a loving stupid message, but that's what it came across as. And this is why people resort to mean tweets, because at least they'll apparently listen to that poo poo.

edit: "let's invite a sociologist to talk to us about race inequality... HOLY DICKS WHO CARES ABOUT RACE INEQUALITY NERD LOL"

Federal Preserves fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Oct 1, 2015

Yaos
Feb 22, 2003

She is a cat of significant gravy.
Why isn't there a Cosmos porn parody yet? A woman travels through the universe on the ship of imagination banging aliens and cosmic events and poo poo. She has to go back in time and bang all the scientists so they can be inspired to come up with their ideas.

Crash_N_Burn
Apr 19, 2014

Consider the following: the whole thing was mostly scripted and designed by someone to manufacture nerd outrage. Bill Nye was in on it

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





doctor 7 posted:

The problem with the Nightly Show is that Ricky Valez is lovely and unfunny. I dunno who that girl was but she also was unfunny.

The Nightly Show can have good panels but more often than not they're treated like a idiot's loving joke. Real Talk with Bill Mahr you actually have a decent amount of time for some discussion. Plus people there generally seem to give a poo poo about making a point relevant to the issue rather than just trying to poo poo all over the topic like a "cool" 14 year old.

Yea but Maher is a loving idiot and completely insufferable a lot of the time

doctor 7
Oct 10, 2003

In the grim darkness of the future there is only Oakley.

Cowman posted:

Yea but Maher is a loving idiot and completely insufferable a lot of the time

I'd agree he can be wrong but I wouldn't go as far as to call him and idiot. He tries to foster discussion and he actually gives a poo poo about things instead of just going "lol don't care gently caress off" like these two panel jerk offs.

His stance on vaccines is loving embarrassing though.

Beef Turret
Jul 9, 2009

by Lowtax

Left posted:

"Some people don't give a poo poo about science" is a fine message, because it implies that the problem can be fixed with discussion.

"Some people don't want to listen to poo poo about science" is a loving stupid message, but that's what it came across as. And this is why people resort to mean tweets, because at least they'll apparently listen to that poo poo.

edit: "let's invite a sociologist to talk to us about race inequality... HOLY DICKS WHO CARES ABOUT RACE INEQUALITY NERD LOL"

Why should people be further burned in their stressful lives with something as remote and abstract as science. And comparing martian bacteria with race relations in importance is absolutely insane

Fake James
Aug 18, 2005

Y'all got any more of that plastic?
Buglord
I met Bill Nye once at a presentation at FermiLab when I was a kid. I was too nervous to ask a question or say anything for that matter. He high fived me and then I walked away awkwardly.

Anyways that's my Bill Nye story, science loving rules and that "comedy" show is garbage

spank my snatch
Jun 4, 2009

Cowman posted:

Yea but Maher is a loving idiot and completely insufferable a lot of the time

Cowman
Feb 14, 2006

Beware the Cow





doctor 7 posted:

I'd agree he can be wrong but I wouldn't go as far as to call him and idiot. He tries to foster discussion and he actually gives a poo poo about things instead of just going "lol don't care gently caress off" like these two panel jerk offs.

His stance on vaccines is loving embarrassing though.

I'll give you that he tries to encourage discussion and is way better than those two but he's still really dumb and obnoxious.

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Gobblecoque
Sep 6, 2011

ashgromnies posted:

doesn't it kinda gently caress with the abrahamic religions if we find intelligent life elsewhere?

not really, aside from a few wacko fundamentalists, most jews, christians, and muslims have been perfectly able to join scientific findings with their faith

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