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BetterToRuleInHell posted:I hope you're as understanding as you are with the NRA when they respond to this tragedy. I don't see tweeting at a person already tweeting about the thing as some sort of callous dangerous practice.
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pathetic little tramp posted:The controls people are asking for are just, like, national background checks and closing the gun show loophole right? Depending, but that was the bill that Manchin and Tommey put forward and went know where and, imo, was the best chance at any small change in gun laws.
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Gawker lol but Buzzfeed's editor had to apologize for supporting gun control recently. Nothing will ever change in this country about guns.
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pathetic little tramp posted:The controls people are asking for are just, like, national background checks and closing the gun show loophole right? This and I believe actually tracking deaths due to guns again. Like I'm totally ok with gun ownership and the fact that these aren't done is loving dumb.
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pathetic little tramp posted:The controls people are asking for are just, like, national background checks and closing the gun show loophole right? The former already exists, actually. It's even called the National Instant Criminal Background Check System. The problem with it is that the National Criminal Information Center doesn't actually have 100% of all records instantaneously available (as many police departments and court systems are still using paper records that aren't totally digitized) and questions have been brought up as to its reliability. It's also not open to the public, which makes it virtually impossible for civilians to actually confirm that they're not selling to a criminal...when they actually care about checking. Dylann Roof getting his gun is the best example of the lack of reliability. He had a pending court date for a felony charge and was thus banned from owning a gun anywhere in the United States. The problem is that the police records made it unclear which police department had arrested him and thus had jurisdiction and the records of the incident, and it had to be manually checked. After long enough of being unable to confirm the red flag, the system removed it and released the gun to him. chitoryu12 fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Oct 1, 2015 |
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pathetic little tramp posted:The controls people are asking for are just, like, national background checks and closing the gun show loophole right? Oregon already has that, assuming he got his guns in-state.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:41
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pathetic little tramp posted:The controls people are asking for are just, like, national background checks and closing the gun show loophole right? Those are two of the big ones. The other common ones are "hey let's not sell guns that shoot dozens of bullets real fast" and "let's not sell magazines that let you shoot so many bullets before needing to reload." The two you mentioned are mostly about preventing these and other sorts of shootings, last two are more about reducing the number of casualties in mass shootings.
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pathetic little tramp posted:The controls people are asking for are just, like, national background checks and closing the gun show loophole right? If I can find one single person alive who says "we don't need guns" it means that all gun control advocates want to take away our guns and/or institute a dictatorship.
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zoux posted:I don't see tweeting at a person already tweeting about the thing as some sort of callous dangerous practice. You cannot fathom, even if the woman who originally tweeted that message had also asked to be interviewed, the awful practices of news organizations to instantly pounce on a story with no care of the circumstances? gently caress, man.
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We don't need guns, take them all away from the retarded inbred American hicks who cling to them above all else.
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TGLT posted:Those are two of the big ones. The other common ones are "hey let's not sell guns that shoot dozens of bullets real fast" and "let's not sell magazines that let you shoot so many bullets before needing to reload." The two you mentioned are mostly about preventing these and other sorts of shootings, last two are more about reducing the number of casualties in mass shootings. Someone's really going to need to teach you about reloading at some point.
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BetterToRuleInHell posted:You cannot fathom, even if the woman who originally tweeted that message had also asked to be interviewed, the awful practices of news organizations to instantly pounce on a story with no care of the circumstances? As everyone in the country furiously refreshes their browsers for the merest scrap of information about it.
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chitoryu12 posted:Someone's really going to need to teach you about reloading at some point. Exactly, reloading is just as fast as having a larger magazine, which is one one-round magazines are so common. 'Cause it's just as fast to reload. Right?
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Radbot posted:We don't need guns, take them all away from the retarded inbred American hicks who cling to them above all else. Draft all 18-24 year old white men so they can be surrounded by good guys with guns.
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chitoryu12 posted:Someone's really going to need to teach you about reloading at some point. You make a good point about the banning of semiautomatic weapons.
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chitoryu12 posted:Someone's really going to need to teach you about reloading at some point. Yeah I don't think anyone is concerned about if a mass shooter filled their rounds themselves or not.
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DeusExMachinima posted:Oregon already has that, assuming he got his guns in-state. Oregon just closed the gun show loophole this year. Like, [urk=http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/33386692-75/oregon-gun-sale-background-checks-law-gets-off-to-rough-start.html.csp]two months ago[/url], so it also depends on how recently the shooter got their guns. chitoryu12 posted:Someone's really going to need to teach you about reloading at some point. You put the magazines into the gun, unless they are empty. Then instead you put the bullets into the magazine first, then the gun. Or you just don't do it. That about sum it up? Radbot posted:Exactly, reloading is just as fast as having a larger magazine, which is one one-round magazines are so common. 'Cause it's just as fast to reload. Right? It's about high capacity magazines, sorry if that wasn't entirely clear. The idea is the lower the capacity, the more frequently you have to reload (which can mean more people getting away), and the fewer bullets you can feasibly carry at once.
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The speeds at which TFR/GiP posters manage to show up at the mere instance of guns or gun control chat is pretty impressive, imo.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:48
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Lol if your gun skills aren't on par with the guys in Equilibrium.
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this_is_hard posted:The speeds at which TFR/GiP posters manage to show up at the mere instance of guns or gun control chat is pretty impressive, imo. It's pretty predictable, we allow opposing viewpoints in D&D without instant bans/probation, unlike TFR/GiP.
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check out Morgan Spurlock's "Inside man" S1E2 - Guns on Netflix... it was filmed shortly after Sandy Hook and it's a super depressing look into gun culture in America.
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this_is_hard posted:The speeds at which TFR/GiP posters manage to show up at the mere instance of guns or gun control chat is pretty impressive, imo.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Official number dead so far is 13 Sad to say this but I guess this is going to be one of the "significant" ones.
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One of the advantages of UHC is that it could pay for penis implants for all the tiny-penised gun lovers in America. It's hard to blame them, really. Gotta cling to something when being white and male isn't what it used to be.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Official number dead so far is 13 13 guns confiscated by Obummer's secret gun police? God drat it.
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MacheteZombie posted:Lol if your gun skills aren't on par with the guys in Equilibrium. Gunkata is a legitimate art tyvm.
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Fried Chicken posted:New USA Today/Suffolk poll, Martin O'Malley is polling at 0% percent Lessigmentum! He's up 0.27%! Nocturtle posted:I realize this response is correct and this whole e-mail affair is a politically driven effort to make Hillary Clinton look bad. However this still seems like a really poor system, why are state dept heads allowed to have private email servers when there's some chance the information in their email might become classified in the future? Isn't it still a problem that information was sent to this private server that later became classified? What's supposed to be the problem there? Why should we care that something eventually got classified? It's not like the server was any less secure than the regular government systems, either. Rent-A-Cop posted:Short answer: They aren't. It's 100% against policy Not when Hillary did it. (or during the second Bush administration, or the first Clinton administration, and not during the first Bush administration or the Reagan administration though it woulda been a pain in the rear end to actually do it before the mid 90s)
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Police were apparently exchanging gunfire with the guy within 5 minutes of the initial 911 call.
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Luigi Thirty posted:Nothing will ever change in this country about guns. We already knew this when nothing changed after Sandy Hook.
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As someone who grew up in the South where literally everyone hunts I genuinely do not understand the absolute supernatural level of devotion and paranoia people have about ARE GUNS. It really borders on an almost religious fervor. Radbot posted:One of the advantages of UHC is that it could pay for penis implants for all the tiny-penised gun lovers in America. basically this.
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http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-news/foothill-high-school-on-lockdown Shot or shots fired at a high school / elementary school campus, on lockdown, no one seems to have been hurt.
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chitoryu12 posted:Someone's really going to need to teach you about reloading at some point. This is always the most  response next to "if they didn't have a gun they would just mass stab those 15 people!!!"
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this_is_hard posted:The speeds at which TFR/GiP posters manage to show up at the mere instance of guns or gun control chat is pretty impressive, imo. Well, the other option is that a bunch of people who have a really bare understanding of how guns work and how they're used (assuming they aren't completely clueless) keep trying to make decisions about them. I'll say what I said the last time: firearms is the only subject I've seen where the people who actually have a deep understanding of the subject matter are called crazy thugs if they try to participate.
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Can mods reopen the Gunthread and make talking about guns in any other thread a bannable offense? Asking for a friend.
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chitoryu12 posted:Well, the other option is that a bunch of people who have a really bare understanding of how guns work and how they're used (assuming they aren't completely clueless) keep trying to make decisions about them. Oh I know what guns are used for.
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this_is_hard posted:The speeds at which TFR/GiP posters manage to show up at the mere instance of guns or gun control chat is pretty impressive, imo. I'm sure the "ban all guns, kill all gun owners" rhetoric that pops up here after every shooting has absolutely nothing to do with that.
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zoux posted:Sad to say this but I guess this is going to be one of the "significant" ones. Significant in what way?
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chitoryu12 posted:Well, the other option is that a bunch of people who have a really bare understanding of how guns work and how they're used (assuming they aren't completely clueless) keep trying to make decisions about them. Yes, a deep mechanical and tactical knowledge of guns are required before making any sort of judgement on their effects to American society. Lmao if you don't know how to reload an AR15 by muscle memory, just lmao.
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A Bag of Milk posted:Significant in what way? Well you have ones where only a couple of people die and they don't really crack the political zeitgeist, then you have the Aurora theater, Va Tech, Sandy Hook, etc. The ones you can list by name. Like this is going to be the campaign issue for the next two weeks.
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