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Mozi posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/01/u...WT.nav=top-news http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-biden-abortion-1974_560c5ee3e4b076812700b4d6 
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zoux posted:It's really only a problem when TFR posters, who care about nothing except gun rights, come in here to explain to us that the availability and prevalence of guns is somehow completely divorced from gun violence in America. It's really all about ethics is gun's journalism, hth.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:08
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The speeds at which TFR/GiP posters manage to show up at the mere instance of guns or gun control chat is pretty impressive, imo.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:48
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As someone who grew up in the South where literally everyone hunts I genuinely do not understand the absolute supernatural level of devotion and paranoia people have about ARE GUNS. It really borders on an almost religious fervor. Radbot posted:One of the advantages of UHC is that it could pay for penis implants for all the tiny-penised gun lovers in America. basically this.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:55
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chitoryu12 posted:Well, the other option is that a bunch of people who have a really bare understanding of how guns work and how they're used (assuming they aren't completely clueless) keep trying to make decisions about them. Yes, a deep mechanical and tactical knowledge of guns are required before making any sort of judgement on their effects to American society. Lmao if you don't know how to reload an AR15 by muscle memory, just lmao.
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Oct 1, 2015 20:58
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MaxxBot posted:I'm sure the "ban all guns, kill all gun owners" rhetoric that pops up here after every shooting has absolutely nothing to do with that. The irony here is that gun owners are actually killing a lot of people yearly  Weekly, even!!
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Oct 1, 2015 21:00
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Zelder posted:I want to ban... If you don't know the weight (loaded and unloaded), tactical, and mechanical uses of every single type of gun you would like to ban you can just  I've spent the past decade going to the shooting range, attending gun shows, and buying guns. I'm a bit of an expert. *speeds off in his lifted truck* welp cya.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:08
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MaxxBot posted:Well the overwhelming majority of gun crime is done with handguns, almost none is done with "assault weapons," so if I were a gun control supporter I would start there. You'd also have to find a way to bring down the vast number of handguns out there already or else you wouldn't do much good. I think we should ban rifles and 'assault weapons,' but not handguns, just to collectively watch TFR melt down to purestrain gold. Let's start there.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:11
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zoux posted:If you want to ahem, protect the *extremely strong ahem* rights of gun owners to hunt and protect themselves at home from threats that will materialize, there's no reason not to ban anything with a mag and only permit bolt-action rifles with 3 round capacity, shotguns and revolvers. I think you mean a clip?
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Oct 1, 2015 21:13
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Popular Thug Drink posted:if we ban handguns though the suicide rate will decrease and i find this to be an inexcusable restriction on the 2A rights of americans Agreed. This is a pretty fundamental right for gun owners IMHO
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Oct 1, 2015 21:14
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icantfindaname posted:guns shouldn't be banned, but anyone who shows interest in owning them should be banned from doing so Welp, we've got our first  ITT.
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Oct 1, 2015 21:19
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icantfindaname posted:because the evil gubmint taking your manchild toys away is literally equivalent to the holocaust. got it 
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Oct 1, 2015 21:40
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Warcabbit posted:Yo. Three people who enjoy shotgun sports, and a Wal-Mart way the hell upstate. Hundred rounds a go, two or three gos on a weekend, we tend to have well over 5000 rounds hanging about just because we don't enjoy driving to North Fuckistan. hmm ya 5000 rounds of ammunition is definitely something i wanna store in my home until i 'need it' ammunition is like golf except it murders a school full of children 2-3 times a month 
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Oct 2, 2015 20:26
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I've always had a sneaking suspicion that people who hoard guns and knives and ammunition are mentally ill. Unfortunately, the ~45 mass shootings so far this year tend to give a bit of credence to my theory. "No, see, these 8000 rounds of armor piercing bullets were a good investment. I'm just storing them down here until I need them."
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Oct 2, 2015 20:36
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Warcabbit posted:I'm saying 'that's about a month's worth of ammo for a small family.' lmbo the USA is doomed, we are doomed.
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Oct 2, 2015 20:46
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Warcabbit posted:Trap shooting. Hundred rounds a go. Two rounds each. (200) Two days in a weekend (400). Three family members (1200). Four weeks in a month. (4800). Nothing like taking your wife and children out to a range on saturday and sunday of every weekend of every month to shoot off a few hundred rounds 
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Oct 2, 2015 21:00
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Dan Didio posted:It's better than keeping them home and murdering them. Easier to hide the bodies and spent shells. With that many Gun's at home, they're statistically more likely to murder themselves!
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Oct 2, 2015 21:02
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Yeah this seems much more indicative of incompetence than some grand conspiracy for the US to incite a PR disaster by bombing Doctors Without Borders. I genuinely don't understand the US military's supposed motive when some people claim this was a deliberate act.
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Oct 6, 2015 18:49
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Literally nobody believes the US bombed a hospital to be evil dicks and this is the dumbest loving strawman. People are saying it was an accident and huge gently caress up and critical that they're trying to push varying stories between it being not a gently caress up at all and completely justified and trying to lay all the blame on Afghan forces. the literal front page of the huffington post was "Doctors Without Borders: We Were Deliberately Bombed" you moron. people ITT are saying the US deliberately did it. please read before posting, tia.
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Oct 6, 2015 20:40
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Slickdrac posted:-Afghani's call it in yeah again, this sounds like pure incompetence, not malice or some IDF-esque situation. 
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Oct 6, 2015 20:48
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mr. mephistopheles posted:There is a big difference between believing they deliberately bombed it because they hosed up and believing they deliberately bombed it to purposely murder doctors and patients for ??? reasons which is what is being strawmanned and conflated a whole hell of a lot in this thread. that was my original point, so once again, please read before posting. 
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In related news...Nuclear Smugglers Shopped Radioactive Materials To ISIS And Other Terrorists posted:CHISINAU, Moldova (AP) — In the backwaters of Eastern Europe, authorities working with the FBI have interrupted four attempts in the past five years by gangs with suspected Russian connections that sought to sell radioactive material to Middle Eastern extremists, The Associated Press has learned. The latest known case came in February this year, when a smuggler offered a huge cache of deadly cesium — enough to contaminate several city blocks — and specifically sought a buyer from the Islamic State group.
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Oct 7, 2015 04:14
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Radish posted:Haha that's already started. lmao this is unbelievable could nearly pass as an Onion article
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Oct 7, 2015 19:10
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Nintendo Kid posted:Winning Vice Presidential debates against two of the dumbest VP candidates in Republican history is no sort of evidence he can win against anybody but Webb in the current primary. agreed. in many ways Paul Ryan did worse than Palin did during the debates, which is definitely rather hilarious considering they all pretend he's some sort of ~intellectual heavyweight~
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Oct 12, 2015 03:29
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"Guns are still loud even with a silencer on!" is basically the same as "It's a magazine, not a clip"
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Oct 12, 2015 16:51
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DeusExMachinima posted:You're so wrong it's not even funny. Stop posting. *reposts this in TFR*
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Oct 12, 2015 16:53
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various cheeses posted:"We just want reasonable gun control, like banning everything that looks scary, preventing people from carrying them ever, and making everything cost thousands of dollars." Same
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Oct 12, 2015 17:28
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Open carry is quite possibly the most pathetic thing ever. The only times I ever see people open carry anyway are at some lovely mall or big box store. It's always some pasty, skinny white kid wearing sneans too.
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Oct 12, 2015 17:30
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CommanderApaul posted:Doesn't necessarily have to do with my hearing protection. I am legally allowed to shoot in my backyard. I don't, out of courtesy to my neighbors, because it's loud as hell for them. State law specifically exempts target shooting from noise ordinances, so again, I can if I want to, but I don't want to without a suppressor because I don't want to be an rear end in a top hat.  Considering you have neighbors, maybe you should hold off on firing guns in your backyard for other reasons than 'it's loud.' also of course target shooting is exempt from noise ordinances. gun owners are children.
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Oct 12, 2015 17:38
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Look, in exchange for making it slightly more difficult for those with mental illnesses or criminal records to commit mass murder on a literal weekly basis, I want my model train collection to be asdgjlasdk;gjda
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Oct 12, 2015 17:41
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CommanderApaul posted:There's a constitutional amendment that protects gun ownership, there isn't one that protects voting rights, so yes, it's an applies and oranges comparison. Voting rights aren't a civil right per the constitution, gun ownership is. are you sure about that?
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Oct 12, 2015 17:42
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CommanderApaul posted:There's a constitutional amendment that protects gun ownership, there isn't one that protects voting rights, so yes, it's an applies and oranges comparison. Voting rights aren't a civil right per the constitution, gun ownership is. 
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Oct 12, 2015 17:45
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various cheeses posted:Because they're neat. Why do you own anything other than the bare minimum needed to survive? Incidentally, your toys are responsible for over 12,000 people 'not surviving' 2014.
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Oct 12, 2015 17:48
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SedanChair posted:Suppressors and short-barreled rifles? No, those are accessories for your toys. Much like differing models and scenery are for a model train collection.
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Oct 12, 2015 17:50
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SedanChair posted:A short-barreled rifle is not an accessory, it is a firearm. But keep being imprecise, it's working really well as a strategy for proponents of gun control. So it's basically like a clip, then?
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Oct 12, 2015 17:52
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SedanChair posted:"Hey guys I'm telling jokes about my own political irrelevance" alternatively, "Hey guys I'm being pedantic and disingenuous about my "I'm a Big Scary Man" hobby" IT'S A MAGAZINE..NOT A CLIP!!!
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Oct 12, 2015 17:56
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various cheeses posted:I like how simple disagreement with the statement "we should ban all guns and murder gun owners" leads to responses like this. but that is actually the correct course of action to take??
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Oct 12, 2015 17:57
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Popular Thug Drink posted:we shouldn't ban guns, because gun owners murder themselves quite efficiently and i see no reason to restrict their second amendment rights Hmm...this really does make you think
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Oct 12, 2015 17:57
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SedanChair posted:You should probably stop writing those laws, which as you admit are stupid and nothing but attempts to incrementally restrict all guns. lmao yes, the solution to weekly mass murders of children in the USA is to wait 'a few decades' and for every Democrat to retire.
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Amergin posted:Well if the idea is that we have a demand in this country for guns and we limit the supply within this country's borders, why do you think illegal gun trafficking wouldn't shift to mostly international? You can literally grow weed in your basement. You cannot grow a gun in your basement. Keep trying, Amergin!
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