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Dirt Worshipper posted:Pretty sure AAC is a UW or UO fan and this is Stanford hate Fleener isn't bad, he's just not what Tony G and Rob G have teased us into believing a tight end is capable of.
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Dirt Worshipper posted:Pretty sure AAC is a UW or UO fan and this is Stanford hate Correct on both NC-17 posted:Fleener has 50+ catches each of the last two seasons and 12 TD's total. How is that a bust? This might be impressive on a run oriented team not the pass happy Colts
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Oct 8, 2015 19:32
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African AIDS cum posted:Correct on both It's underwhelming for where he was drafted, but that's not a bust.
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Oct 8, 2015 19:36
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NC-17 posted:It's underwhelming for where he was drafted, but that's not a bust. I'm bold enough to say it. He's a fraud. Drops a lot of passes and scared of contact. John Carlson 2.0
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Oct 8, 2015 19:40
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African AIDS cum posted:I'm bold enough to say it. He's a fraud. Drops a lot of passes and scared of contact. John Carlson 2.0 Truth right here.
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Oct 8, 2015 19:44
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lmao why are we taking anything AAC says at face value
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Parmesan Basil posted:lmao why are we taking anything AAC says at face value pot talking poo poo on kettle right here
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African AIDS cum posted:I'm bold enough to say it. He's a fraud. Drops a lot of passes and scared of contact. John Carlson 2.0 That's still not a bust. Trent Richardson is a bust. Justin Blackmon is a bust. Aaron Maybin was a bust. JaMarcus Russell was a bust. Jimmy Graham is a bust (for what you traded).
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Oct 8, 2015 19:50
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NC-17 posted:That's still not a bust. The poo poo OC not know how to utilize a pass-catching tight end isn't really the fault of Jimmy Graham.
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Oct 8, 2015 19:54
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Chilichimp posted:The poo poo OC not know how to utilize a pass-catching tight end isn't really the fault of Jimmy Graham. Yeah. Jimmy was on Gronk level before being outcast to Seattle. I still don't understand that trade for the Seahawks. Trade a first round pick and your best olinemen for a dominant pass catching te you never throw to? Makes perfect sense.
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Oct 8, 2015 19:56
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NC-17 posted:That's still not a bust. Blackmon was a legit good WR who had personal problems. Not a bust. Jimmy Graham has been alright and will get better, its only been 4 games. Takes time to develop chemistry with a QB.
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Oct 8, 2015 20:00
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Should've traded for a pair of platform shoes so Russell could actually throw the high line drive that Graham can catch.
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African AIDS cum posted:Blackmon was a legit good WR who had personal problems. Not a bust. A bust is a pick that doesn't pay off for whatever reason, not specifically being talentless. Did Blackmon even have one good full season in Jacksonville? No Butt Stuff posted:Should've traded for a pair of platform shoes so Russell could actually throw the high line drive that Graham can catch. Wilson is only 1 inch shorter than Brees.
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Oct 8, 2015 20:01
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Chilichimp posted:A bust is a pick that doesn't pay off for whatever reason, not specifically being talentless. See Anderson, Jamaal. Jerry, Peria.
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Oct 8, 2015 20:04
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Yes, he had a quality rookie season despite Chad Henne and Blaine Gabbert taking all the snaps at QB.
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Oct 8, 2015 20:04
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Chilichimp posted:A bust is a pick that doesn't pay off for whatever reason, not specifically being talentless. Did Blackmon even have one good full season in Jacksonville? Oh yeah? Is Ernie Davis a bust? Sean Taylor?
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Oct 8, 2015 20:09
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African AIDS cum posted:Oh yeah? Is Ernie Davis a bust? Sean Taylor? Yes, no
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African AIDS cum posted:Blackmon was a legit good WR who had personal problems. Not a bust. Most of the NFL's infamous busts flamed out because of drugs, alcohol, attitude/laziness, etc. Talent wasn't the issue with guys like Russell or even Ryan Leaf. One didn't give a poo poo and the other was a pill-popping psycho.
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NC-17 posted:Most of the NFL's infamous busts flamed out because of drugs, alcohol, attitude/laziness, etc. Talent wasn't the issue with guys like Russell or even Ryan Leaf. Blackmon showed he was worth the draft pick. Leaf never did.
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African AIDS cum posted:Oh yeah? Is Ernie Davis a bust? Sean Taylor? So is Chris Borland
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Oct 8, 2015 20:15
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trigger warning please
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Oct 8, 2015 20:16
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African AIDS cum posted:Blackmon showed he was worth the draft pick. Leaf never did. Blackmon has been out of the NFL for over two years. He is done. He's not going to come back from that. #5 overall pick for 93 career receptions, that's a bust. Jags also gave up a 4th and 7th to trade up for him.
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I'd argue the only non-bust busts are players who don't pan out due to injuries*, because those are unpredictable and can happen to anyone. So yeah, Sean Taylor also not a bust in this system *unless those injuries were known about/occurred prior to being drafted
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NC-17 posted:Most of the NFL's infamous busts flamed out because of drugs, alcohol, attitude/laziness, etc. Most of its greats are tied to alcohol or drugs too. Maybe blaming substances is an easily consumed narrative for an easily overwhelmed fanbase?
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Oct 8, 2015 20:21
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Chichevache posted:Most of its greats are tied to alcohol or drugs too. Maybe blaming substances is an easily consumed narrative for an easily overwhelmed fanbase? Not everyone can handle their booze.
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Oct 8, 2015 20:22
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I like weed but I don't know if I like it enough to roll the dice on a multi-million dollar career. Ahh of course I would I just wouldn't be completely stupid about it. Play the game, guy
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Oct 8, 2015 20:23
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NC-17 posted:Blackmon has been out of the NFL for over two years. He is done. He's not going to come back from that. Pacman missed almost two years and is playing the best football of his career
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sweet thursday posted:I like weed but I don't know if I like it enough to roll the dice on a multi-million dollar career. Ahh of course I would I just wouldn't be completely stupid about it. Gordon's only REAL gently caress-up was that he was busted for using a Codeine syrup when he had a nasty cough. He'd still be in the game today but for that one innocent mistake. He'd still have been busted a few times for weed, but he wouldn't be GONE right now.
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Chilichimp posted:Gordon's only REAL gently caress-up was that he was busted for using a Codeine syrup when he had a nasty cough. He'd still be in the game today but for that one innocent mistake. 
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:Pacman missed almost two years and is playing the best football of his career The details are bit different there as he missed one season from suspension, then played 9 games in Dallas, out of football for one season, then was signed with the Bengals. Justin Blackmon has not even been in contact with the Jags and even his own GM said his career is over. quote:Caldwell said the team has not heard from Blackmon recently, and his 21-month respite from the NFL makes it doubtful he will ever play again in the league.
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Dirt Worshipper posted:trigger warning please The offseason was so disastrous that I was listing off all the stupid bullshit that happened and I literally forgot their rookie phenom defensive player up and retired suddenly. Don't cry for the 49ers, they're already dead.
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warcrimes posted:So is Chris Borland He was a mid third round pick and they got one really good season out of him, even that's not that bad It could have been so much more, but I will never ever blame a guy for choosing his health over football given what we know about the sport
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Grozz Nuy posted:He was a mid third round pick and they got one really good season out of him, even that's not that bad I don't begrudge him either, it's great that he was in a position to be able to walk away. Just want to make that clear.
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