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tezzor, have you considered the fact that the U.S. government indeed actually does understand how hypocritical we are, and in fact just plainly don't give a poo poo? it's all loving stupid bullshit theater, you just need to say the right things and you can get away with anything. like how if you ever start a bar fight just keep screaming "stop hitting me, why are you attack me" while pummeling the poo poo out of the other dude, and witnesses will only remember what they heard, thinking the other was the aggressor we're not stupid, we're incompetently evil
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Airborne Viking posted:I only saw Rambo 3 a few years ago and holy poo poo seeing that was amazing. newer releases cut it. it's sad
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Mange Mite posted:You remember the nerve gas thing that was pretty extreme yeah was gonna say this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo also there are occasional weirdos, whether far-right or just insane, who try to restore the emperor, like yukio mishima
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Jesustheastronaut! posted:why are there no japenese extremist groups. japs can be extreme if they want to be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df7jOd6HcIY
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To be honest though all those rebel groups are still marginally less poo poo than Assad therefore who loving cares what's hypocritical or not? Defending Assad is a loss for everyone except Mr KGB shithead. Human lives > double standards on the world stage
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Strategic Tea posted:To be honest though all those rebel groups are still marginally less poo poo than Assad therefore who loving cares what's hypocritical or not? Defending Assad is a loss for everyone except Mr KGB shithead. Actually the way it works is the us is the bitch of israel and Saudis so death to the alawite kuffir scum
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Suitaru posted:yeah was gonna say this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo Hey man, the emperor is a powerful man. It's cool that Japan's imperial family's line goes beyond history to the point where the current emperor is a guy in a palace, goes back in an unbroken line where the first one was descended from the Sun God.
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Strategic Tea posted:To be honest though all those rebel groups are still marginally less poo poo than Assad therefore who loving cares what's hypocritical or not? Defending Assad is a loss for everyone except Mr KGB shithead. 1) I'm not sure that's true. The rebel groups that are still at all capable of doing anything on the ground (other than the Kurds if they even count) are not better than Assad by any margin, they're just weaker. 2) People there are going to keep dying either way, no matter who wins or, more likely, fails to lose and keeps fighting. 3) The ideal situation would be if someone from outside actually invaded properly and removed both Assad and his enemies but that's not going to happen so after that the best case is IS runs out of steam and everyone else settles down in a slow-burning anarchy. Basically if you wanted to remove Assad, should've done that long ago, it's too late for it to be a change for the better now. As far as I see it anyway, maybe I missed some amazing replacement Assad everyone would gladly rally around.
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I actually think the evil dictator who loves sarin gas and throwing barrels full of explosives out of helicopters onto schools and hospitals is the lesser evil compared to ISIS. Middle eastern countries need brutal strong man dictators to keep the religious crazies in line.
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Dick Fagballzson posted:I actually think the evil dictator who loves sarin gas and throwing barrels full of explosives out of helicopters onto schools and hospitals is the lesser evil compared to ISIS. Middle eastern countries need brutal strong man dictators to keep the religious crazies in line. Furthermore, much like the sand-folk, negroes need a stern hand to keep order. Submission to a violent power is in their nature and it is our duty to ensure that it is a responsible one.
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advokat posted:1) I'm not sure that's true. The rebel groups that are still at all capable of doing anything on the ground (other than the Kurds if they even count) are not better than Assad by any margin, they're just weaker. I really think this is a twisted kind of wishful thinking. Going for stability at all costs and/or letting Russia try to fix everything with their usual brand of total misery are the easiest ways forward. The Middle East is such a mess it'd be nice to seize on something like that, however horrific, and hope it works out. (I realise backing 'the rebels' is basically the same thing but with an even smaller chance of success) advokat posted:3) The ideal situation would be if someone from outside actually invaded properly and removed both Assad and his enemies but that's not going to happen so after that the best case is IS runs out of steam and everyone else settles down in a slow-burning anarchy. 
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advokat posted:1) I'm not sure that's true. The rebel groups that are still at all capable of doing anything on the ground (other than the Kurds if they even count) are not better than Assad by any margin, they're just weaker. What if we armed some mongol tribes and let them run amok like it's 1290
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Wasn't Syria in putin's backpocket long before all this civil war poo poo? I mean let Russian have 'em. bomb away, take a few isis out along the way. good guy muslim kurds gtfo first
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:What if we armed some mongol tribes and let them run amok like it's 1290 Can we put that on pay-per-view? It'd probably be self-funding after the first season.
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a bone to pick posted:We got big issues with denial, escapism, ignorance, and self-awareness in this country. We have a culture that supports terrible behavior and toxic "gently caress you got mine" attitudes, we reward stomping on other people's lives but we're quick to judge the rest of the world. We're loving idiots and truly deserve a nuke to the homeland.
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Strategic Tea posted:Furthermore, much like the sand-folk, negroes need a stern hand to keep order. Submission to a violent power is in their nature and it is our duty to ensure that it is a responsible one. I feel like you're trying to tie this into some racist US contextualization, not cool.
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Darth123123 posted:Wasn't Syria in putin's backpocket long before all this civil war poo poo? I mean let Russian have 'em. bomb away, take a few isis out along the way. good guy muslim kurds gtfo first Assad's survival strategy in the face of a populist uprising with support from the west was smart, he's smart. Make one friend with a security council veto, preventing UN action. Make the conflict brutal so only the most brutal/radical opposition groups survive, then make sure atrocities the opposition commits are well-publicized. Next to ISIS, Assad looks great, very much the lesser of two evils, and he gets to keep his hold on power where Gaddafi/Mubarak couldn't.
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notZaar posted:I feel like you're trying to tie this into some racist US contextualization, not cool. Nah, I'm saying it's wrong to argue that any culture inherently has to be brutalised to stop them from exploding into anarchy. It's an excuse - European slavers used it as an excuse for profit. Now (some) westerners are using it an an excuse for a cheap and nasty half-solution to the mess we made in the Middle East. If we have to support tyrants then so be it, but I'd like like it to be part of a long term solution, not just a way to fob off an entire culture as needing a friendly helping of rape and torture. Strategic Tea fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Oct 2, 2015 |
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Assad's survival strategy in the face of a populist uprising with support from the west was smart, he's smart. Make one friend with a security council veto, preventing UN action. Make the conflict brutal so only the most brutal/radical opposition groups survive, then make sure atrocities the opposition commits are well-publicized. Next to ISIS, Assad looks great, very much the lesser of two evils, and he gets to keep his hold on power where Gaddafi/Mubarak couldn't. He released half of ISIS's current command from his own prisons, hoping something like this would happen. Supporting/tolerating him now sends the message that the West is happy to be jerked around and manipulated by anyone with more than five AKs to their name.
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whoflungpoop posted:quote if u like rubbin butts together
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Reminder that Obama won a Nobel Prize. Is that a prize for having a nice rear end?
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Darth123123 posted:I won't be satisfied till we get US v Russia fighter jets dog fighting Tom Cruise style When was the last time the US actually engaged an airborne enemy? rear end cobra posted:Is that a prize for having a nice rear end? if so he deserved that prize drat
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Monkey Fracas posted:When was the last time the US actually engaged an airborne enemy? We had that Ebola outbreak last year.
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notZaar posted:We had that Ebola outbreak last year. technically not an airborne virus
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Mellenial calls US hypocritical US says "lol, so what?" Mellinial dies.
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Monkey Fracas posted:When was the last time the US actually engaged an airborne enemy? Iraq!
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blarzgh posted:Mellenial calls US hypocritical If only it was so simple...
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Strategic Tea posted:Nah, I'm saying it's wrong to argue that any culture inherently has to be brutalised to stop them from exploding into anarchy. Arabs are stuck in the middle ages and practice an abhorrent religion. Trying to give such backwards and culturally inferior people democracy is like trying to teach calculus to a chimpanzee. And even if you do they'll either vote for a brutual strong man or for Muslim fundamentalism. The brutal strong man who rules them like a king is always going to be the lesser of two evils because it keeps the even worse religious crazies in check. Putin understands this. The US still doesn't get it.
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Dick Fagballzson posted:Arabs are stuck in the middle ages and practice an abhorrent religion. Trying to give such backwards and culturally inferior people democracy is like trying to teach calculus to a chimpanzee. And even if you do they'll either vote for a brutual strong man or for Muslim fundamentalism. The brutal strong man who rules them like a king is always going to be the lesser of two evils. Putin understands this. The US still doesn't get it. uh without getting into your dad racism the US currently supports more brutal strongmen in the middle east than russia does
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Our strategy is inconsistent. Toppling Saddam and trying to topple Assad were huge mistakes that destabilized the region.
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Tezzor posted:uh without getting into your dad racism the US currently supports more brutal strongmen in the middle east than russia does I don't know what dad racism is, but he sounds spot on.
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