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 I always try and over-complicate the Super-League when I try and sell new owners on it, and it usually doesn't work, so let me try something else: The Super-League, when you come right down to it, is basically a strategy game that just happens to use baaseball as a motif, really. If you know something about baseball, you'll probably appreciate being able to make a team that includes such luminaries as Babe Ruth, Walter Johnson and the Immortal Kerry Wood, but if you're not a fan of the game, or don't even understand how baseball even works, that doesn't matter, because things are sufficiently abstract that as long as you get a passing understanding of a few statistics, which you'll be able to pick up reasonably fast, you'll be able to do just fine. You might not end up liking the Super-League. After all, it's a game where no matter how well you build your team, the odds of you winning a Super-League Championship is not very good, and it's also a zero-sum game, meaning that, definitionally, anytime someone wins, it's because someone else lost. But, that said, you might as well give it a try, because, hell, it couldn't have lasted for four and a half years if everyone thought it sucked, right? Helpful Resources The Super-League, like many baseball fantasy leagues before it, is a game of numbers and stats. When you’re using players from at any point in the last century, it’s vital to have resources to see how good they will do. To that end, we have two major sources of stats you can pour over. Baseball Reference - This one is a no-brainer. Baseball Reference houses stats of all sorts of uselessness from all the way back to the heydays of Cy Young (also known as the 1890s). Fair warning is that guys with incomplete careers and mid WW2 careers don't do as well in Mogul sims. (The former because Mogul likes having a complete career to use as projection, the latter because most true greats were killing Nazi's during the War years, and the ball's quality was lowered due to wartime supply priorities.) This is the place where you can check out your inevitable feeder teams. Of course, the historical data can only go so far in a modern simulation, which brings us to… Super-League Reference - Here it is. The absolute, must-have bookmark to be consulting when it comes to every player you find. Super-League reference was compiled in a joint effort by Mr. Cool Ice and Cthulhu Dreams, and uses the saves from Super-League IV and onward to paint a picture of that player’s performance in the Super-League. This is important since the Super-League, using the best of the best players from all of baseball history, is a marked degree above even the most talent-filled seasons of baseball. And some classically great all-time players, like Bob Feller and Willie Mays, just don’t do well in a Super-League environment. Again, use this. This, in combination with knowing which stats are important, will keep your head above water, even if you’re nowhere near the level of baseball historian that Commissar Dynamo is. The Basics of Baseball by tatankatonk Ok, so even the dumbest/foreign goon knows the basics of baseball. Hell, you know the lyrics to Take Me Out to the Ballgame by heart, and that's half the rules right there. There's pitchers, there's position players (first, second, third base, shortstop, outfielders, catchers), and there's pitchers (starting and relief). Three strikes is an out, three outs is an inning, nine innings and a game is over, unless there's a tie in which case it goes a few more and everyone leaves the stadium early. Anyway, what you should come away with from this is the following: Baseball, more than any other sport in the world, is a game of numbers. Every single thing that happens on the field is recorded and converted into statistics that professional analysts come up with to determine a player's performance. This isn't basketball, where blocks (a vital defensive stat) weren't recorded until the mid-70s. There's records of the game going all the way back to when Ty Cobb was assaulting fans, and even farther than that. Your job, as a Superleague owner, is to learn what all these numbers mean, and how to look at them in a way that can instantly tell you what you need to know about a player. So, What Stats Are Useful, Anyhow? If you know nothing about baseball, then you will be shocked by how many stats that are tracked that are absolutely worthless in the grand scheme of thing. There is only a handful of stats you need to evaluate the quality of a player, and this small area will give you a rundown on the biggest ones to consider. In somewhat arbitrary order of usefulness: On-Base + Slugging Percentage (OPS+): The go-to stat that your eyes should drift to first when it concerns batters. Era and season-adjusted, with average for that season being a flat ‘100’. If you find a guy who had a 115 OPS+, then he was 15% better at generating runs than the average joe that year. Combine that with the fact that he might be at a scarce position (see “Positional Scarcity” below), and you’ll be cooking with a run-generating machine in no time. Earned Run Average + (ERA+): The same thing as OPS+, but for Pitchers. 115 ERA+ means he was 15% than the average pitcher that season. Generally speaking, having good pitchers is more important than having good hitters ! Many teams get relegated not because they don’t have huge dudes who can hit the ball and score runs, but because their own pitching gets lit up and destroyed over the course of the season because they forgot to focus on it. Try to focus on pitching before hitting! Defensive Wins Above Replacement (dWAR): Let’s get this out of the way: There is no real great stat to measure a player’s defensive ability. The best we have is dWAR, which measures whether a guy is worth keeping in the field compared to a replacement player. This value can go into the negatives, meaning that some players are such bad players that they will give up plays with their bad ball-handling. If you rely on groundball or deadball-era pitchers, you will absolutely get destroyed if you have bad fielders. Generally speaking, Catcher, Center Field, and the middle infield positions (Second Base, Shortstop, Third Base) are the ones where you want to place defense over offense. Batting Average, On-Base Percentage, and Slugging Percentage (BA, OBP, SLG): Here are the base stats for offensive prowess for batters. Batting Average is how often you can hit the ball, On-Base Percentage is like Batting Average, but also factors in walks. (seriously, you don’t know what a walk is? Ok, a pitcher has to throw his pitches in an area next to the batter called the strike zone for it to count as a strike, or the batter has to swing at it. If he pitches and it's not in the strike zone, it's a ball. You pitch four balls, and the guy walks to first automatically.) and SLG is how far you can hit the ball on average when you hit it. Generally speaking, a .350+ OBP and a .400+ SLG are probably the minimum for Super-League caliber players, but you don’t necessarily need to have both. Walks + Hits Per Innings Pitched (WHIP): Is what it says, how many combined hits plus walks a pitcher gives up each inning he’s in play. This is a good estimate of how ‘wild’ your pitcher is, and whether he ends up keeping control of the ball or he shoots a 100 MPH fastball with no regard for where it lands. Wild guys are bad because wild guys lead to more walks, which lead to more runs, which leads to more games lost. 1.000 WHIP are elite, and 1.300+ WHIP guys are probably too wild to consider, even despite their pedigree. Isolated Discipline (IsoD): This one you won’t find on either of the reference sites, but is decently important, as it describes a batter’s ‘Batting Eye’, his ability to identify pitches and whether he should be taking a swing at them. You get this one by calculating OBP - BA. .070 is generally considered the bare minimum for a good player who doesn’t just whiff at every pitch over the plate. .150 and you’ve got a guy with an elite eye. Hits, Home Runs, Walks, and Strikeouts Per 9 Innings (H/9, HR/9, BB/9, SO/9): Miscellaneous, yet important stats to tell you how your pitcher pitches and what he can be expected to do during a game. Fireball pitchers have huge SO/9 rates, but at the expense of being either really wild (higher BB/9) or giving up big hits (higher HR/9). As a general rule of thumb, unless a guy is really, really good, you want to look for the lowest BB/9 above all others, because Super-League pitchers are forced to face Super-League hitters, who are especially good at drawing walks. Age: Young guys are wild, and old guys fall apart at the seams. You don’t want to pick up a 40-year-old Gaylord Perry and hope he can hold down your rotation. Generally speaking, 24-34 is a nice age range for considered players. Younger than 24, they’re probably a little wild; 35 and older, you’re playing with geriatric fire, which is more like a dying ember. Emphasis on DYING. SMASHER'S NOTE: I want to make this super-clear: Baseball Mogul, the engine the Super-League uses, doesn't work like WhatifSports or OOTP Baseball. It gives players ratings based on both how old they are and how good a career they had overall! For example, if you think you're going to game the system by taking 1996 Brady Anderson (who had one of the great fluke seasons in history), you are going to be sorely disappointed, because he's not going to hit 50 home runs, he's going to hit like he did in every other season around that fluke season! Plate Appearances/Innings Pitched: No one likes small sample sizes. A guy may seem amazing until you realize he only played one game that season. These stats basically serve as a reality check that the guy you never heard of who is really good is only good because he literally batted once or pitched one game. PAs are for batters, and IPs are for Pitchers. Innings Pitched also gives you a decent idea of a pitcher’s stamina. If he can pitch a consistent 300-400 innings of baseball (on bbref, that is. Most SL-starters don’t pitch more than about 250 innings), then chances are he can go the distance. Mogul doesn't like players with short careers either, which is something to keep in mind. Or incomplete careers. So Miguel Cabrera is not the God of Triple Crowns in Mogul, despite what he's projected to do, since he's still got a ways to go. Positional Scarcity Now, you are probably thinking that some positions are a little harder to find good players for than others, and you’d be right! Certain positions are harder to field than others, and baseball comes with an established hierarchy: 1. Catcher 2. Shortstop 3. Second Baseman 4. Center Fielder 5. Third Baseman 6. Right Fielder 7. Left Fielder 8. First Baseman So finding good 3rd basemen and center fielders is hard, great Catchers and Shortstops practically impossible, and halfway decent corner outfielders and first basemen a dime a dozen. In fact, looking for a First Baseman or Corner Outfielder, you should be looking for 130 or better OPS+, as it’s so easy to stick bat first, glove-second guys here that you need an especially good hitter there. Team Building Tips and Tricks: A team-building tutorial would essentially drive the word count of this guide through the roof. However, there are some handy hints to know. -Look to low-point teams first. Low-point teams will usually have one or two good guys and a load of spare parts, but might also have a great player hidden in the rubble of bad teams. Plus, it’s best to start at the bottom, since most people will be starting at the top. -Remember positional scarcity! Look for Catchers, Second Basemen, and Shortstops before loading up on First Basemen and Corner OFs. -A good player with useful teammates is better than a very good player with no teammates. Picking up a whole team for one guy is a raw deal, even for the lowest of low-point teams. Try to find guys who are at least competent in other positions that you can situationally field to go with that legendary player you’re picking up. -Finding an all-time great player on a low-point team is what you should be striving for. The Super League is comprised of some of the greatest baseball players of the last hundred years. There are teams stacked with top-notch talent that even the most baseball-clueless goon will vaguely recognize. If you don’t have to settle for a good-but-not-great player, don’t. Your goal is to be the best. -Make sure you have a modern bullpen. Super-League bullpens are a crapshoot by nature, but having a modern reliever staff means they’re actually suited to bullpen work, since before 1950, nearly all teams were just sticking their worst starters in the bullpen, and graduating their best relievers to starter duty. -Make sure your players' skills complement each other. Have a good assortment of on-base guys, power hitters, defensive vs offensive guys, and pitchers who can play to that. You have good hitters? Look for groundball pitching! -Save points for pitching, because someone's probably grabbing that 1-point Christy Mathewson before you can. -Don't ignore your bench, because you’re going to need them to at least hit a couple times over the season. -Too young is better than too old. -Don't let one gaping hole in your lineup bug you, as long as it's at a lower difficulty position like LF or 1B. -Don't trade high-round Dispersal Draft picks for anything less than a Ted Williams. -Don't rush to trade before you've seen your team play. -Always always always double check your feeders! There might be a great player who only pitched a couple innings languishing on that team, or a future great who’s just a year or two shy of true competency on their bench. Don’t just pick the starters from your feeders! Season Structure By Smasher Dynamo Deep Breath! Expansion Cup All new teams go through the Expansion Cup, which runs through the second-half of the Super-League season at an accelerated rate (each update is one month rather than one week). This is where new teams go to try and figure out what works and what doesn't in a relatively low-stress environment. If your team doesn't do well, that's probably not so bad, because you'll get higher dispersal draft picks, and that's good! Expansion Cup Playoffs The Expansion Cup is traditionally divided into two divisions based on whether the new team uses the DH or not. After the EC is over, the winner of each division faces off for a chance to win the Expansion Cup and with it, an amazing prize! (Nature of prize: TBD). The winners of the two divisions also get to start their first season in the Super-League, the higher division, while the rest of the EC teams end up in the Sub-Par League, which, as you can guess from its name, is the lower division. Dispersal Draft Held in the offseason, the Dispersal Draft is where teams have a chance to pick the carcasses of relegated teams for useful parts. The draft pool is usually made of players from the rosters of 4-6 teams that were relegated the Gauntlet (see below). The first three rounds of picks go only to the EC Team Owners, who pick in descending order of finish in the EC (that is, the team who did worse in the EC picks first in each round, and so on.) The fourth and fifth rounds use a lottery system to assign pick order, and have picks given out to both new and returning teams. Super-League The Show! The Super-League is the higher division of Super-League Baseball, and features 24 teams playing 26 weeks of games to determine who is best at fantasy fantasy baseball. There are six divisions with four teams each, organized into two leagues (DH and no-DH), each with twelve teams. At the end of 26 weeks, the division winners and two wildcards from each league advance to the playoffs. The bottom team in each division get demoted to the Sub-Par League after the season. Sub-Par League Not the Show! The Sub-Par League is the lower division of Super-League Baseball, and has been outsourced to McFreeze. It has a variable number of teams depending on how many teams are in the EC, but it's usually 16 or 18 teams divided into four divisions in two leagues (DH and no-DH.) The season lasts 26 weeks, and at the end, the division winners (no wildcards!) advance to the playoffs. Everyone who doesn't win the division, though, is subject to the Gauntlet. Super-Draft In the middle of the season, teams will have a chance to fortify their rosters through the Super-Draft, which lasts for three rounds, and has a draft pool made up of players from relegated teams not already used in the Dispersal Draft. The first and third rounds have picks for the Sub-Par League teams, while the Super-League teams pick in the second round. Playoffs Both the Super-League and Sub-Par League feature playoffs. In the Sub-Par League, there are four teams, who play in two rounds of playoffs to determine the Sub-Par League Champion. Just by making the Sub-Par League Playoffs, the teams have already qualified for next season's Super-League, but by winning the Sub-Par League Championship, the winning team gets to pick what division they'll be placed in the next season, which can, in theory, let them pick an easier division. Traditionally, McFreeze has streamed the Sub-Par League Finals live on a stream. In the Super-League, the two wildcard teams from each league play each other in a one-game playoff. That leaves eight teams, who go through the League Division, League Championship, and Super-League Final rounds to determine the Super-League winner. Whoever the champion is then has the right to challenge the Macho Men in a bid to prove that they are the greatest team in Super-League history. When they inevitably fail at that task, they are destroyed, and their owner must build a new team out of leftover feeder teams for the next Super-League. Gauntlet There comes a time every season when you need to clear away the brush, and that's where the Gauntlet comes in. In the first round of the Gauntlet, the four worst teams in that season's Sub-Par League are forced to play a 40-game mini-season. The two teams that fare the worst are relegated, that is to say, forever killed. The two remaining teams then must play the two Sub-Par League teams with the next-worst records, and play 40 more games, after which the bottom two teams are eliminated once again. And that continues until such time as McFreeze and I decide that no further culling is needed. Tag Team Tournament There's also a tag team tournament. I'd give more explanation, but it's either about to start, or has already started in the main thread, so check it out there to get a sense of how it works. In Closing: Have Fun, And Don’t Give Up! That's a lot of words, but none of them really matter. The Super-League is about the journey, not the destination, because, let's be honest, the end of every great team is being smashed out of existence by the Macho Men. Yeah, there are a fair number of rules, and it's a bit confusing, but you can also ask questions in IRC or this thread or the main thread if you need to know something. So relax, give it a try, and, hey, what's the worst that could happen? New Team Form Fill out Now This needs to be done to secure a spot in the Super-League Teams Selected: Pick eleven points worth of teams (twelve points for people who have never owned a Super-League team before), spread out over as many teams as you'd like. Hell, you could have eleven one-point teams if you really wanted. Fill Out Soon These items also need to be filled out, but not immediately, just as soon as you have some spare time Team Name: Team Logo (150x150 preferred): Home City: Home Stadium: (Give me the dimensions and playing surface if it's a custom stadium) DH Preference: 30-Man Roster: 25 in the majors, 5 in the minors Lineups: Pitching Rotation: Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run: Sacrifice Bunt: Squeeze Play: Trying for extra bases: Stealing Bases: Aggressively Tagging Up: Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): Giving Intentional Walks: Pitching Around Good Hitters: Bringing the Infield In: Guarding the Lines: Making Cutoff Throws: Bringing in Pinch Hitters: Bringing in Pinch Runners: Bringing in Defensive Replacements: Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: The Big, Big List of Feeder Teams Pick eleven points of feeder teams, twelve if you've never owned a team in the Super-League. 5 Points: 1998 New York Yankees 4 Points: 1909 Detroit Tigers 1922 New York Giants 1926 Pittsburgh Pirates 1932 St. Louis Cardinals 1951 Cleveland Indians 1954 San Francisco Giants 1970 Detroit Tigers 1971 Oakland Athletics 1980 Baltimore Orioles 1980 Montreal Expos 1982 Los Angeles Dodgers 1994 Montreal Expos 2003 Florida Marlins 2005 Chicago White Sox 2006 Minnesota Twins 2006 Detroit Tigers 2015 St. Louis Cardinals 3 Points: 1924 Cincinnati Reds 1933 Washington Senators 1946 Brooklyn Dodgers 1953 Boston Red Sox 1957 Cleveland Indians 1960 Chicago White Sox 1963 St. Louis Cardinals 1964 Cincinnati Reds 1966 Philadelphia Phillies 1970 Minnesota Twins 1973 Chicago Cubs 1978 California Angels 1985 Baltimore Orioles 1985 St. Louis Cardinals 1986 Oakland Athletics 1998 New York Mets 1998 San Diego Padres 2000 Cincinnati Reds 2001 Cleveland Indians 2004 Texas Rangers 2004 Los Angeles Dodgers 2009 Atlanta Braves 2015 New York Mets 2 Points: 1901 Brooklyn Superbas 1911 Philadelphia Phillies 1912 Washington Senators 1913 Cleveland Naps 1917 Cincinnati Reds 1924 St. Louis Browns 1925 Chicago Cubs 1930 Philadelphia Phillies 1939 Brooklyn Dodgers 1943 New York Giants 1949 Boston Braves 1955 Boston Red Sox 1968 Oakland Athletics 1973 St. Louis Cardinals 1975 Chicago White Sox 1981 San Diego Padres 1982 Oakland Athletics 1987 Houston Astros 1990 Texas Rangers 1993 Pittsburgh Pirates 1993 Detroit Tigers 2001 Baltimore Orioles 2005 Arizona Diamondbacks 2006 San Francisco Giants 2008 Tampa Bay Rays 2010 Colorado Rockies 2015 San Diego Padres 1 Point: 1901 Cincinnati Reds 1902 St. Louis Browns [s[ 1906 Philadelphia Phillies [/s] 1907 Washington Senators 1907 Boston Doves 1927 Brooklyn Robins 1929 Boston Red Sox 1935 Boston Braves 1939 Chicago White Sox 1941 St. Louis Browns 1948 Philadelphia Athletics 1952 Chicago Cubs 1961 Los Angeles Angels 1962 New York Mets 1962 Houston Colt .45s 1967 Washington Senators 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates 1973 Montreal Expos 1980 Super Francisco Giants 1986 Pittsburgh Pirates 1987 Philadelphia Phillies 1995 St. Louis Cardinals 1999 Minnesota Twins 2002 Detroit Tigers 2008 Oakland Athletics 2011 Baltimore Orioles 2012 Cleveland Indians 2015 Atlanta Braves Teams 1. Mooses 2. Goog! Day! Rocks! 3. GVOLTT's team of manliness and derring-do! 4. Ya? Ya. 5. Rochester Generics 6. The SW6!Coffees 7. LegendintheMakin (Bruzer? Marauder? Taking your bets now!) 8. kensei's Official Tim Sylvia Fan Club 9. DOOP is going to break our hearts again. 10. The Non-Gabriel Popes 11. Ecclesiastes II: Deus Vult! Smasher Dynamo fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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No team yet but I am taking: 1907 Washington Senators (1) 1986 Pittsbugh Pirates (1) 1973 St. Louis Cardinals (2) 1985 Baltimore Orioles (3) 1966 Baltimore Orioles (4)
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Folks this is a real fun game if you like baseball. Hardest thing that you will have to do is create a good team at the start. We're all willing to help whoever though!
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OOOOOOHHHHHHHH, SUPER LEAGUE!!! DON'T YOU DARE BE SOUR! CLAP FOR YOUR FUTURE CHAMPS, AND FEEL! THE POWER!!! It's a Goog Day, yes it is! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDlI0ziLZug Teams Selected: 1918 Red Sox, 1925 Yankees, 1987 Phillies Team Name: The Goog Day Team Logo (150x150 preferred):  Home City: New York, NY Home Stadium: New Yankee Stadium DH Preference: McFreeze tried to talk me into not having a DH. I laughed in his face. Give me a DH or give me death. 30-Man Roster: Right here! Lineups: vs both 1. 1B Lou Gehrig 2. LF Bob Meusel 3. RF 1918 Babe Ruth 4. DH 1925 Babe Ruth 5. 3B Mike Schmidt 6. CF Earle Combs 7. C 1918 Wally Schang 8. SS Luis Aguayo 9. 2B Juan Samuel Please use 1925 Wally Schang as the personal catcher for Urban Shocker. Pitching Rotation: SP1 Carl Mays SP2 Dutch Leonard SP3 Urban Shocker SP4 Herb Pennock SP5 Bob Shawkey CL Steve Bedrosian SU Michael Jackson SR 1918 Sad Sam Jones SR Wally Ritchie MR 1925 Sad Sam Jones LR Waite Hoyt Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run: -3 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: 1 Trying for extra bases: 2 Stealing Bases: -1 Aggressively Tagging Up: 1 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): -3 Giving Intentional Walks: -5 Pitching Around Good Hitters: -3 Bringing the Infield In: -1 Guarding the Lines: -3 Making Cutoff Throws: 0 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -2 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -2 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 0 Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: 1 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: 2 GOOG! DAY ROCKS! GOOG! DAY ROCKS! GOOG! DAY ROCKS! The Goog fucked around with this message at 14:44 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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i'm laughing really hard good luck goog. i hope the draft actually fills out your team with better pieces and you survive due to ruths and gehrig.
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Maybe I looked too much [damnit Goog, I was going to take 2 of those teams], but here I go: 2015 Toronto Blue Jays (4) 1943 New York Giants (2) 1975 Chicago White Sox (2) 1924 St. Louis Browns (2) 2012 Cleveland Indians (1) EDIT: Roster! And other pertinent information! Name: Colma Skeletons Logo:  Hometown: Colma, California Stadium: Field of Bones Dimensions: based entirely off Jacobs Field, 1994-2006 dimensions [see here] DH Preference: Yes, please. Roster: code:code:code:code:GVOLTT fucked around with this message at 01:23 on Oct 6, 2015 |
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Oh my God this is the worst infield ever. TEAM CHANGE: Swapping out the 2011 Orioles, swapping in the 1987 Phillies.
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Time to finally give this a shot, I guess: 1953 Boston Red Sox (3) 1901 Cincinnati Reds (1) 1935 Boston Braves (1) 1939 Chicago White Sox (1) 1925 Chicago Cubs (2) 1911 Philadelphia Phillies (2) 1913 Cleveland Naps (2) Team Name: River City Ransom Spreadsheet (Shamelessly copied from The Goog): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZYi0K9Bgk_CWM1komVdYVzSQtdrXwsP4rvSADe42EAk/edit#gid=0 Team Logo (150x150 preferred):  Home City: River City Home Stadium: Busch Stadium (Give me the dimensions and playing surface if it's a custom stadium) DH Preference: Yes 30-Man Roster: Starting Lineup vs RHP and LHP C Gabby Hartnett 1925 1B Jake Beckley 1901 2B Nap Lajoie 1913 3B George Kell 1953 SS Luke Appling 1939 LF Ted Williams 1953 CF Wally Berger 1935 RF Joe Jackson 1913 DH Babe Ruth 1935 BENCH OF Sam Crawford 1901 SS Rabbit Maranville 1925 OF Sherry Magee 1911 1B Fred Luderus 1911 3B Hans Lobert 1911 Pitching SP1 Pete Alexander 1925 SP2 Pete Alexander 1911 SP3 Noodles Hahn 1901 SP4 Cy Falkenberg 1913 SP5 Thornton Lee 1939 CL Amos Rusie 1901 SU Ellis Kinder 1953 SR Ike Delock 1953 SR Hersh Freeman 1953 MR Clint Brown 1939 LR Wilbur Cooper 1925 Minors SP Earl Moore 1911 SP Mel Parnell 1953 C Shanty Hogan 1935 2B Harry Steinfeldt 1901 SS Ray Chapman 1913 CSV: code:Hit and Run: 1 Sacrifice Bunt: -5 Squeeze Play: -3 Trying for Extra Bases: 2 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: -1 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 1 Giving Intentional Walks: -3 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 1 Bringing the Infield In: 2 Guarding the Lines: -1 Making Cutoff Throws: 3 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 0 Bringing in Pinch Runners: -3 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: -2 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: 1 Letting Pitchers Pitch Through Trouble: 4 Letting Pitchers Rack Up High Pitch Counts: 3 Yaya fucked around with this message at 23:50 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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Edit goddammit.
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Good to see that the tradition of everybody's team picks loving up everybody else's team picks is still going strong.
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1912 Washington Senators (2) 1970 Twins (3) 1955 Red Sox (2) 2000 Cinc Reds (3) 1999 Twins (1) I'm pretty sure no one's gotten these teams but I'm pretty sure I'm gonna die with this team.
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kw0134 posted:1912 Washington Senators (2)
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Please trade the 2015 Blue Jays to me.
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DannoMack posted:Please trade the 2015 Blue Jays to me.
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Will this be the season Tulo hits over .190?!?
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Fill Out Soon Team Name: The Commonwealth Flying Dukaki Team Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ywDK60vbthIbXObBMYRPe2MS_EpJUot0z00xinWKB60/edit#gid=205522283 Team Logo (150x150 preferred):  Home City:Beacon Hill, MA Home Stadium: A well groomed Huntington Avenue Grounds (set the grounds to great condition in other words) DH Preference: Yes Teams: 1907 Washington Senators (1) 1986 Pittsbugh Pirates (1) 1973 St. Louis Cardinals (2) 1985 Baltimore Orioles (3) 1966 Baltimore Orioles (4) C 1973 Ted Simmons simmote01 S 1B 1985 Eddie Murray murraed02 S 2B 1966 Davey Johnson johnsda02 R 3B 1966 Brooks Robinson robinbr01 R SS 1985 Cal Ripken ripkeca01 R LF 1986 Barry Bonds bondsba01 L CF 1985 Fred Lynn lynnfr01 L RF 1966 Frank Robinson robinfr02 R DH 1986 Bobby Bonilla bonilbo01 S Pitchers Year Name Laham Throws SP 1 1966 Jim Palmer palmeji01 R SP 2 1907 Walter Johnson johnswa01 R SP 3 1973 Bob Gibson gibsobo01 R SP 4 1986 Rick Reuschel reuscri01 R SP 5 1966 Dave McNally mcnalda01 L CL 1985 Don Asae aasedo01 R SU 1966 Eddie Fisher fisheed02 R SR 1966 Stu Miller millest01 R SR 1973 Al Hrabosky hraboal01 L MR 1985 Mike Boddicker boddimi01 R LR 1986 John Smiley smilejo01 L "Bench" OF 1907 Clyde Milan milancl01 L 1B 1966 Boog Powell powelbo01 L C 1973 Joe Torre torrejo01 R LF 1973 Lou Brock brocklo01 L 2B 1907 Jim Delahanty delahji01 R Minors SP 1966 Steve Barber barbest01 L SP 1973 Rick Wise wiseri01 R OF 1973 Jose Cruz cruzjo01 L C 1986 Tony Pena penato01 R SS 1966 Luis Aparicio aparilu01 R Line Up Lineup - NO DH Fred Lynn (L) Cal Ripken (R) Eddie Murray (S)/Boog Powell (L) Frank Robinson (R) Barry Bonds (L) Ted Simmons (S) Brooks Robinson (R) Dave Johnson (R) Pitcher NO DH: Fred Lynn (L) Cal Ripken (R) Eddie Murray (S)/Boog Powell (L) Frank Robinson (R) Barry Bonds (L) Bobby Bonilla (S) Brooks Robinson (R) Ted Simmons (S) Dave Johnson (R)
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Yessssss I'll give it another shot. TEAMS 1980 San Francisco Giants (1 pt) 1955 Boston Red Sox (2 pts) 1977 Boston Red Sox (4 pts) (I'm such a dweeb) 1903 Chicago Cubs (3 pts) 1906 Philadelphia Phillies (1 pt) DivineCoffeeBinge fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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So, just to confirm: the Macho Men are a bunch of maximum-stat
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FredMSloniker posted:So, just to confirm: the Macho Men are a bunch of maximum-stat No. They're really good and really well-built but they are beatable. PASS THE MASH fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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FredMSloniker posted:So, just to confirm: the Macho Men are a bunch of maximum-stat It is said the Macho Men were once a mortal team, fated to live and die like any other. But Smasher feared their power, and so he sealed them away in the unseen realm. Now, they sit and wait to test the strongest.
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Ice To Meet You posted:It is said the Macho Men were once a mortal team, fated to live and die like any other. But Smasher feared their power, and so he sealed them away in the unseen realm. Now, they sit and wait to test the strongest. yes, and beat the strongest 5-1 in a bo9
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First team owner here in the middle of his first sub-par season. This is a lot of fun, I hosed up my team tremendously in the EC by not looking at the sea level of my chosen destination (I always pick Mexico City when I create teams in stuff) and ended up with a rotation who did not fare well in their home park BUT I got a Ted Williams out of it and now I have arguably a top four sub-par league team that hits MAXIMUM DINGERS and is lying, cheating, and stealing their way into the hearts and minds of the entire league  A ton of people were really friendly and helpful in getting my team under control in the Dispersal Draft and over the course of the season. It seems a bit overwhelming at first because there is a lot to digest but once you spend some time on it you begin to get an idea of how everything operates and its really easy to stay on top of from there. If you're on the fence just go for it. There's no reason to wait it out, your team can be total garbage in the EC and you'll just get a better draft pick out of it. My only tip is don't pick a stadium location before you pick your feeders 
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to break the kayfabe everybody was complaining about how hard it was to make teams, so smasher made a team out of eleven points of the remnants of feeders after everybody else had picked to fill out sl...2? idk? something like that. it murdered and continues to murder everything in postseason bo9s, and after winning the everything smasher retired them to face the champions of each super league season, if they are willing, and also to help smasher continue life's shutout victory against a certain owner we don't speak of anymore. the macho men have flaws, and are beatable, but hosed if anybody knows what that flaw is im sure a good bit of that was wrong CraigK fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Oct 4, 2015 |
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St. Maarten Storm 2009 WBC Japanese Team (2) 2015 Pittsburgh Pirates (3) 1895 Cleveland Spiders (3) 1909 Cleveland Naps (3) 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates (1)
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Oct 4, 2015 07:23
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So basically the Macho Men are Smasher's way of saying 'wow, either I'm really good at this, or you're really bad'?
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Oct 4, 2015 07:35
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FredMSloniker posted:So basically the Macho Men are Smasher's way of saying 'wow, either I'm really good at this, or you're really bad'? Pretty sure they started out that way, but over time they have gotten even more brutal. The terms of the Macho Men Challenge are that if the Macho Men win, Smasher grabs one player from the defeated team to join the Macho Men, while the losing owner gets to keep three players (after Smasher's player theft) and then starts from near-scratch again. What this means is that the Macho Men have gotten bigger and nastier with each postseason destruction. At first they were a testament to Smasher's skill; now they have become an unholy monstrosity fused together from the corpses of fallen champions, gathering their power to them and unleashing it upon all who are fool enough to test them.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Pretty sure they started out that way, but over time they have gotten even more brutal. The terms of the Macho Men Challenge are that if the Macho Men win, Smasher grabs one player from the defeated team to join the Macho Men, while the losing owner gets to keep three players (after Smasher's player theft) and then starts from near-scratch again. And after destroying the Somali Pirates, the closest thing the league has had to a complete and utter juggernaut team, in six games - it wasn't even close - Smasher elected to not take a player from the Pirates, simply because he just destroyed the Pirates, there was no need to further strengthen this team.
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Oct 4, 2015 12:58
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Luckily you have the option to play against the Macho Men and it's not a necessity so you have ample time to build a team with a plan before facing off against them when you think you're ready (you're not). Basically their only a factor once you are at the top and win the league relatively effortlessly to remind you there is always someone stronger.
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Oct 4, 2015 14:29
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The macho men exist for two reasons. (1) To reinforce smasher's philosophy regarding life, specifically that it is full of pain and ends violently. (2) Allow owners who have reached the highest echelon of success in the league make a new team with a semblance of dignity and a new shot at glory/failure.
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Oct 4, 2015 15:21
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The extension to two is that we want dominant owners a way to leave so that they don't perpetually dominate the SL. I don't think there was a mechanism for retiring teams so having them murdered after winning a championship improves overall competitive balance.
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My first pass. Feedback from anyone who's interested in helping me not blow this season would be appreciated! Or you can all just shake your head sadly at my ineptitude again. That would be understandable. Team Name: The Centralia Mines Team Logo (150x150 preferred):  Home City: Centralia, PA Home Stadium: Gimme a carbon-copy of Wrigley, why not. DH Preference: DH 30-Man Roster: C Carlton Fisk (1977) 1B Frank Chance (1903) 2B Johnny Evers (1903) SS Joe Tinker (1903) 3B Darrell Evans (1980) LF Carl Yazstremski (1977) CF Fred Lynn (1977) RF Jim Rice (1977) DH Ted Williams (1955) SP1 Vida Blue (L) (1980) SP2 Luis Tiant (R) (1977) SP3 Jake Weimer (L) (1903) SP4 Tully Sparks (R) (1906) SP5 Spaceman! Bill Lee (L) (1977) LR Jack Taylor (R) (1903) MR Hal Brown (R) (1955) SR Peaches Graham (R) (1903) (How you gonna pass on a guy named Peaches?) SR Leo Kiely (L) (1955) SU Al Holland (R) (1980) CL Bill Campbell (R) (1977) BENCH Kid Gleason (2B) (1906) (This player isn't in the SL Reference but Frasier's Dad played him in Eight Men Out and that's good enough for me) BENCH Jack Clark (RF) (1980) BENCH Johnny Kling (C) (1903) BENCH Darrell Evans (3B) (1980) BENCH Roy Thomas (OF) (1906) MINORS The Immortal Bob Stanley (P) (R) (1977) MINORS Sherry Magee (OF) (1906) MINORS Dwight Evans (RF) (1977) MINORS Jim Piersall (RF) (1955) MINORS Red Dooin (C) (1906) Lineups: Use the same lineup vs. Left and Right-handed pitching for now until I get off my rear end and figure out the splits. 1 Frank Chance 2 Fred Lynn 3 Joe Tinker 4 Ted Williams 5 Jim Rice 6 Carl Yazstremski 7 Carlton Fisk 8 Johnny Evers 9 Darrell Evans Pitching Rotation: As above Strategy (Rate on a scale from -5 to +5) Hit and Run: 0 Sacrifice Bunt: -4 Squeeze Play: -2 Trying for extra bases: -1 Stealing Bases: 0 Aggressively Tagging Up: 1 Pitch Outs (to prevent stolen bases): 2 Giving Intentional Walks: 2 Pitching Around Good Hitters: 4 Bringing the Infield In: 1 Guarding the Lines: 0 Making Cutoff Throws: 3 Bringing in Pinch Hitters: 2 Bringing in Pinch Runners: 1 Bringing in Defensive Replacements: 3 Starting Pitchers on Short Rest: -3 Letting pitchers pitch throw trouble: 4 Letting Pitchers rack up high pitch counts: -2
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Tentatively selecting 1906 Chicago Cubs 5 2006 San Francisco Giants 2 2010 Colorado Rockies 2 2011 Baltimore Orioles 1 1997 Philadelphia Phillies 1
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I would like to note for anyone on the fence about joining up that I joined a previous Expansion Cup and did really fuckin' badly, mostly because I looked at the concepts of 'research' and 'figuring out which player is better' and 'being open to picking players I haven't actually heard of because they have good stats' and 'listening to the advice of others' and decided to do things that weren't those things. This fact did not make the experience any less fun. The Super-League is great and you should play in it. The worst thing that'll happen is that you'll lose miserably, and y'know, that's okay, because you can take solace in the knowledge that other owners who are really good at the game and who know what they're doing will also lose horribly, because the Super-League, like life, is pain. The stakes could not possibly be any lower. Grab some baseball mans and make a team.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:My first pass. Feedback from anyone who's interested in helping me not blow this season would be appreciated! Or you can all just shake your head sadly at my ineptitude again. That would be understandable. As the first guy to try Tinkers/Evers/Chance and the rest of the 1903 Cubs let me tell you that it ended in pain. I mean it could all be because the other parts of the Million Dollar Men were worse but I wouldn't bank on it. In addition Mogul hates Yaz for reasons I'm sure as he tends to underperform badly. but hey maybe you have more luck than me.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:I would like to note for anyone on the fence about joining up that I joined a previous Expansion Cup and did really fuckin' badly, mostly because I looked at the concepts of 'research' and 'figuring out which player is better' and 'being open to picking players I haven't actually heard of because they have good stats' and 'listening to the advice of others' and decided to do things that weren't those things. As an extension of this, it will also teach you a lot about pre-80s baseball or help you learn the game a lot more. Learning about all these deadballers is kinda fun!
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Oct 4, 2015 18:26
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In 1886, Chicken Wolf of the Louisville Colonels hit an 11th-inning game-winning inside-the-park home run against the Cincinnati Red Stockings. On the play, Cincinnati outfielder Abner Powell was attacked by a dog that had been sleeping near the fence.
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kensei posted:1906 Chicago Cubs 5 nooooooooooooooooooooooooo turn left friend
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kensei posted:Tentatively selecting Monicro posted:
Fine 2013 Washington Nationals 2 2008 Tampa Bay Rays 2 2006 San Francisco Giants 2 2010 Colorado Rockies 2 2011 Baltimore Orioles 1 1997 Philadelphia Phillies 1 2008 Oakland Athletics 1
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Smasher Dynamo posted:7. LegendintheMakin (Bruzer? Marauder? Taking your bets now!) While I totes would have taken some of those teams, if only to use Ichiro Suzuki, relief pitcher, I'd feel compelled to make something of the Dick Whitman on the '46 Dodgers.
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For the record, johnfw50 has claimed LegendInTheMakin as a friend, so things check out. That's certainly a way to start your Super-League career - be potentially considered to be an alt account for one of the most reviled owners in the league (Bruiser, not Marauder).
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