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A Yolo Wizard posted:I bought a weird old phone that only dials one number for about 350 it was worth it though the KRZ phone? could you actually play Along The Echo on it
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Nash Regex posted:Automated Teller Machines still use dial-up to connect for transaction authorizations.
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I assume they're encoding it since (with cable VoIP anyway) it all comes out of a standard phone jack on the modem as an analog signal
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pseudorandom name posted:are VoIP codecs good enough to encode V.34/V.90 or do they just speak modem on the client side, transmit the bytestream to the other end and then covert it back to audio like the cell network? on cable company voip it's just a plain analog jack into the cable gateway, and it would definitely cost more to add special stuff to the gateway that recognizes data signals and handles them differently, so I doubt they do that.
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lampey posted:my grandmother retired from Michigan Bell formerly at&t formerly bell as an operator. no not the operators with tactical weapons breaking down doors and seizing cash. the ones that looked up phone numbers for you when you called 411. before that she did some other stuff for the phone company but 15+ years of looking up numbers. for 10+ years she would sip pop all day in between calls and ended up drinking the equivalent of 15+ cans a day in 2L bottles every day and got diabetes. for a long time the 411 in MI would only get calls from people in MI so things like looking up the number to a college is not too hard. If you ask for the number to u of m there are not that many. but over the years the metrics got worse like you had to complete more calls in the same amount of time and also other call centers were getting shut down. a lot of the other call centers were shut down because their training costs were too high in the south or the general costs of doing business in the west. or the union/att just liked mi. so you might be getting a call from montana asking for u of m and you have to ask for which one now and now you arent making your numbers so you just guess and give them a number and connect them through. if it isnt the right number they can just call back to 411 and get charged again. i think there are some exceptions like if you are 411ing an 800 number, the 800 number gets billed. for a while looking up 1-3 numbers was a certain charge, and getting connected through was a separate charge, or like the first one each month was free my grandfather was a lineman turned exchange relay swapper outer turned computer starer laid off from michigan bell 1 year before he could get the full pension so gently caress michigan bell Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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Space-Pope posted:a scary number of them also still use unpatched windows xp yeah i'm sure a locked down machine with no internet connection that does one single task over a dedicated phone line is a real security problem
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Oct 7, 2015 00:35
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im gonna call up the atm's phone line and howl a hack into an acoustic coupler
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Vlad the Retailer posted:the KRZ phone? could you actually play Along The Echo on it Yeah 
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Sweevo posted:yeah i'm sure a locked down machine with no internet connection that does one single task over a dedicated phone line is a real security problem yeah it actually is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0c08EYv4N5A
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The_Franz posted:landlines are pretty much stuck at 8-bit 8khz alaw/ulaw forever since changing to a more modern codec would screw up fax machines and the few weirdos who still use dialup to get their email. nah there are codecs specifically designed for faxing that work just fine w/ voip. The problem is 99.99999% of voip installations use 64kbps ulaw and any jitter fucks modems up really bad. if you ask your phone provider to supply t38 they'll just say no. also pris aren't any better cause phone networks are absolute garbage. equipment from 30 years ago is still alive and well cause they wont pay to replace it with modern stuff and the dude whos been working there for 30 years still knows how it works and so what if hes the only one its fine this isn't a problem. meanwhile for a few grand you can get a media gateway from dialogic which will emulate any signaling you need and provide loads of other features that are more advanced then anything the phone company has. phone companies are poo poo. also verizon is the loving worst
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pseudorandom name posted:are VoIP codecs good enough to encode V.34/V.90 or do they just speak modem on the client side, transmit the bytestream to the other end and then covert it back to audio like the cell network? ulaw will work if the network quality is very good. jitter will gently caress it up bad. to solve this, there is t38 which I guess is a way to encapsulate the fax data in a redundant manner. it works fine but lots of phone carriers are too loving stupid to understand it. some will support it tho. like vonage offers a fax line service that is basically t38 support for extra $$.
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Verizon is seriously the worst phone company in the loving world and when we terminated our service with them it was the greatest.
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Shaggar posted:Verizon is seriously the worst phone company in the loving world and when we terminated our service with them it was the greatest. frontier is definitely worse
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holy poo poo realposts from shaggar
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Shaggar posted:Verizon is seriously the worst phone company in the loving world shaggar is right
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and of course a "well actually" from fishmech
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we used to get Verizon pris over a fiber loop and when we wanted to add more service to it they had no idea where the fiber loop was so they couldn't do it. so instead they dropped a pile of fiber equipment in our data center. we ended up originally running 2 ds3s off it but then I went and redesigned our phone stuff w/ the dialogic media gateways and cut it down to less than a single ds3 then we got rid of a lot of their poo poo and replaced it with other carriers and I think now we have like 2 local pris and an ld coming off the fiber thing in our data center and I hope it cost them a shitload. luckily I'm not the phone guy anymore
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except when it comes to integration w/ our phone switch but that's actually cool and fun and has nothing to do w/ phone networks which are all trash
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post the hottest waveforms u got https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvr9AMWEU-c 
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Cocoa Crispies posted:and of course a "well actually" from fishmech THE TIME IS NOW SARIFICE THE VIRGIN NO THE OTHER ONE NOT THAT ONE EITHER NO, NOT OK gently caress IT NEVER MIND
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Nash Regex posted:Automated Teller Machines still use dial-up to connect for transaction authorizations.
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how do the cell phones in gas meters power themselves?
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im the caller requesting to escape from telephony
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pseudorandom name posted:how do the cell phones in gas meters power themselves? they usually aren't cell devices, they instead use a different wireless setup, combined with a sealed in battery like in this one http://www.landisgyr.co.uk/product/g370-zigbee-smart-ultrasonic-gas-meter/ that one has a big ol lithium cell battery that'll last like 10 years for remote reading, and can continue recording information in an alternate manner without the wireless thing working in case it dies
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pseudorandom name posted:how do the cell phones in gas meters power themselves? tiny little steam engine powered by a pilot light
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SmokaDustbowl posted:annoy your siblings by picking up another phone when they're talking and playing mary had a little lamb with touchtones 3212333222333321233322321
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SO DEMANDING posted:i need to check this place out someday: http://thetelephonemuseum.org/ been there its pretty legit
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Cocoa Crispies posted:holy poo poo realposts from shaggar
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heres all the ones that can appear in the game http://imgur.com/a/eQPgH I want that crazy one but I think it was just a prototype when I went lookin
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in 2001, my family's power was out for an entire week. the landline was the only thing that still worked. we cooked by a propane stove and used candles once the flashlights ran out. this was in the bay area. I like landlines.
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Cyberbird posted:lmao same but somehow my phones worked
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atomicthumbs posted:in 2001, my family's power was out for an entire week. the landline was the only thing that still worked. we cooked by a propane stove and used candles once the flashlights ran out. someone in the bay area keeps slicing fiber backbones (which usually also knocks out phone service) and nobody has a goddamn clue what to do about it http://www.wsj.com/articles/attacks-on-fiber-networks-in-california-baffle-fbi-1439417515
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Jimmy Carter posted:someone in the bay area keeps slicing fiber backbones (which usually also knocks out phone service) and nobody has a goddamn clue what to do about it good thing we'll always have AT&T Long Lines
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Jimmy Carter posted:someone in the bay area keeps slicing fiber backbones (which usually also knocks out phone service) and nobody has a goddamn clue what to do about it after 9/11 almost all the uk telcos decided that for security they had to remove their names from the manhole covers on their ducts in case of cyber attack on the cyber nations cyber security, because of course a cyber terrorist would only want to attack a gxn cyber trunk and not a cyber bt one and would be cyber-defeated by not knowing which one to cyber attack only after they'd spent a year sending guys with grinders around to do this did they realise why they had their names on them in the first place, when it took their engineers 3 hours to find the right manhole every time they had to go out and repair a break, so now every manhole cover in london has a shiny new nameplate epoxied on
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:post the hottest waveforms u got I knew what the sounds I was looking at were before I relistened to the handshake video modems are a whole other level of amazing anachronism, the amount of engineering that had to go into that handshake is mind blowing
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goddamnedtwisto posted:after 9/11 almost all the uk telcos decided that for security they had to remove their names from the manhole covers on their ducts in case of cyber attack on the cyber nations cyber security, because of course a cyber terrorist would only want to attack a gxn cyber trunk and not a cyber bt one and would be cyber-defeated by not knowing which one to cyber attack lol
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A Yolo Wizard posted:heres all the ones that can appear in the game http://imgur.com/a/eQPgH krz is awesome and i wish i had the money to buy things like that to support the project
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goddamnedtwisto posted:after 9/11 almost all the uk telcos decided that for security they had to remove their names from the manhole covers on their ducts in case of cyber attack on the cyber nations cyber security, because of course a cyber terrorist would only want to attack a gxn cyber trunk and not a cyber bt one and would be cyber-defeated by not knowing which one to cyber attack haha
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