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pre:HOW TO 'BLUE BOX' INTO 'RUSSIA' BY: MARK TABAS --------------------------------------- HELLO, LATELY, I HAVE BEEN QUESTIONED ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF BOXING INTO THE SOVIET UNION. WHILE I AM BY NO MEANS AN EXPERT ON THIS, I HAVE PICKED UP A FEW THINGS. STANDARD DIALING TO RUSSIA WOULD BEGIN SOMETING LIKE THIS: KP+011+007+ST (FOR INT'L SENDER) KP+0+95+295+9051+ST (FOR NUMBER) IF ALL WENT WELL, YOU WOULD BE ROUTED INTO RUSSIA AS AN OPERATOR-ASSISTED CALL. (BY THE WAY, THE NUMBER ABOVE IS THE KREMLIN). HOWEVER, SINCE ALL IS NOT WELL BETWEEN US AND THE SOVIETS, YOU WILL PROBABLY GET A RECORDING. THIS WILL GO SOMETHING LIKE, "INTERNATIONAL DIRECT-DIAL SERVICE IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE TO THE SOVIET UNION..." OR "DUE TO CIRCUT CONGESTION IN THE COUNTRY YOU DIALED, YOUR CALL DID NOT COMPLETE..." THESE RECORDINGS, HOWEVER, LIE. THEY ARE MERELY PLACED THERE TO DETER THE BLUE BOXER. HE HEARS THEM AND THEN, BELIEVING THEM, GIVES UP. SEE, THE LAST THING THAT AT&T AND THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IN GENERAL NEED IS A BUNCH OF 11-YEAR-OLD BLUE BOXERS CALLING RUSSIA AND SAYING SOMETHING LIKE: "HA HA, YOU FORNICATING COMMY PINKOS,WE'RE GONNA BOMB THE HELL OUT OF YOU!" SO, THEY MAKE IT *VERY* DIFFICULT TO BOX THE CALL. AS I SAID BEFORE, THE RECORDINGS THAT YOU GET ARE FAKES. WHEN NORMAL TSPS PLACE A CALL TO RUSSIA (LEGALLY), THEY MUST CONTEND WITH THE SAME RECORDING, ONLY INTERNATIONAL HAS THIS NEAT EQUIPMENT THAT KEEPS DIALING THE NUMBER OVER AND OVER AND OVER UNTIL THE CALL GOES THROUGH. THIS NORMALLY TAKES A FEW HOURS. IT WOULD TAKE YOU A YEAR ON A BLUE BOX. THIS IS WHY WHEN YOU ATTEMPT TO PLACE A LEGAL CALL TO THE U.S.S.R., IOCC (TSPS) WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE IS A 2-3 HOUR DELAY. OFTEN IT IS MORE THAN THAT, IF THEY HAVE A LINE OF CALLS. TO HAVE IOCC PLACE A CALL, ONE WOULD BOX KP+160+700+ST FOR RUSSIA. THIS WILL GIVE YOU AN IOCC OPERATOR WHO ASKS FOR COUNTRY, CITY AND NUMBER, AND A BILLING NUMBER (THINKING THAT YOU ARE TSPS YOURSELF). THEN THEY WANT A CUSTOMER RINGBACK NUMBER (LOOP OR PAYFONE, IF YOU PLAN TO HANG AROUND FOR A FEW HOURS OR SO). HOWEVER, ON CALLS TO OTHER COUNTRIES, THEY WILL CONNECT YOU DIRECTLY AND DO NOT REQUIRE RINGBACK. IOCC COUNTRY ROUTINGS ARE AS FOLLOWS: KP+011+XXX+ST, WHERE XXX IS THE COUNTRY CODE PADDED TO THE *RIGHT* WITH ZEROS. TO CONTINUE ABOUT IOCC ROUTINGS, THE COUNTRY CODE IS PADDED TO THE RIGHT WITH ZEROS. THUS, AUSTRALIA (COUNTRY CODE OF 61) WOULD BECOME 610, AND THE ROUTING WOULD BE KP+160+610+ST. THIS MESSAGE HASN'T SAID MUCH SINCE I HAVEN'T TOLD HOW TO BOX A CALL TO RUSSIA, I'VE JUST TALKED ABOUT ALL THE PROBLEMS WITH CALLING THERE. THAT'S BECAUSE IT IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO DO. UNLESS YOU ARE VERY PATIENT AND FEEL LIKE TRYING TO BOX IT ABOUT 5000 TIMES BEFORE YOU FINALLY GET THROUGH (IN WHICH CASE IT WOULD BE BUSY ANYWAY) THEN YOU NEED THE HELP OF THE BELL SYSTEM OR POSSIBLY SOME INFERIORS LOCATED THROUGHOUT THE IRON CURTAIN. TO PLACE A CALL TO RUSSIA, OTHER THAN GOING THROUGH IOCC, ONE MIGHT TRY TO CONTACT SOME SORT OF INWARD SOMEWHERE, LIKE YUOGSLAVIA (KARL MARX'S SUGGESTION ), OR MAYBE EAST GERMANY. TO BEGIN WITH, CALL RATE & ROUTE FOR THE IOTC ROUTING (SAY YOU ARE ON CORDBOARD) FOR INWARD IN YUGOSLAVIA. SHE'LL SAY SOME- THING LIKE "038 PLUS BLAH-BLAH-BLAH" SO YOU WOULD BOX KP+011+038+ST, WAIT FOR INT'L TONE, THEN DIAL KP+0+38+BLAH BLAH BLAH+121+ST. THAT SHOULD GET YOU INWARD, YUGOSLAVIA, WHO SPEAKS LITTLE OR NO ENGLISH AND IS AT BEST UNPLEASANT TO DEAL WITH. THAT'S ALL I KNOW. IF YOU HAVE A BETTER WAY (OR ANY WAY AT ALL) TO CALL MOTHER RUSSIA, LET ME KNOW. MARK TABAS THE!MDFHNO!NG!ENNLDOWNLOADED FROM P-80 SYSTEMS......
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# ¿ Oct 4, 2015 21:45 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 00:39 |
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those 10-10 numbers still exist they just serve no purpose why would anyone use a different telco's long distance service and pay $1.50/min for the privilege
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 17:28 |
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fritz posted:is that the same mechanism as the "10-10-###" things you could dial in the mid-90s to get incredibly-for-the-time cheap long distance at the cost of minimum 5-minute bills yeah it told the exchange which company to route your long distance call through. 10-10-321 was MCI.
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 17:30 |
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I *think* back in the day another use case was all long distance circuits are busy on your phone company and you want to try a different one because you really really want to get through
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 17:35 |
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The_Franz posted:the concept of long distance calling doesn't even exist anymore except for old people who still have a phone plan from 1975. grandma rented a phone from GTE for 50 years. they were so remote Bell wouldn't put lines in up there
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# ¿ Oct 5, 2015 17:40 |
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# ¿ Apr 29, 2024 00:39 |
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lampey posted:my grandmother retired from Michigan Bell formerly at&t formerly bell as an operator. no not the operators with tactical weapons breaking down doors and seizing cash. the ones that looked up phone numbers for you when you called 411. before that she did some other stuff for the phone company but 15+ years of looking up numbers. for 10+ years she would sip pop all day in between calls and ended up drinking the equivalent of 15+ cans a day in 2L bottles every day and got diabetes. for a long time the 411 in MI would only get calls from people in MI so things like looking up the number to a college is not too hard. If you ask for the number to u of m there are not that many. but over the years the metrics got worse like you had to complete more calls in the same amount of time and also other call centers were getting shut down. a lot of the other call centers were shut down because their training costs were too high in the south or the general costs of doing business in the west. or the union/att just liked mi. so you might be getting a call from montana asking for u of m and you have to ask for which one now and now you arent making your numbers so you just guess and give them a number and connect them through. if it isnt the right number they can just call back to 411 and get charged again. i think there are some exceptions like if you are 411ing an 800 number, the 800 number gets billed. for a while looking up 1-3 numbers was a certain charge, and getting connected through was a separate charge, or like the first one each month was free my grandfather was a lineman turned exchange relay swapper outer turned computer starer laid off from michigan bell 1 year before he could get the full pension so gently caress michigan bell Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Oct 7, 2015 |
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