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boom boom boom posted:What about the millions of Israelis who lived in fear of suicide bombings before Israel literally had to build a wall around itself? they deserved to die
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boom boom boom posted:You're not the only who believes that, unfortunately. yeah people tend to believe that when invading colonialists take your land by force they should be expelled by force
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Oct 8, 2015 16:27
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loquacius posted:Do you realize how many empires have conquered Israel in the course of history? Do you realize how many empires have conquered Israel in the course of the last 500 years or so? Hint: it is more than one do you realize that this argument is just The Blacks Owned Slaves Too
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Oct 8, 2015 16:37
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loquacius posted:the argument is "it's not meaningful to frame this narrative as the Israelis being 'colonialists' and the Palestinians being 'natives' because the word 'native' doesn't meaningfully apply to anyone currently living in this particular region" but unless you're rooting for an Intifada we're mostly disagreeing on semantics yeah they're not natives because some of them are descended from people who came in 500 years ago. lol
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Oct 8, 2015 17:40
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native americans: not really native since they immigrated here 40,000 years ago
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Oct 8, 2015 17:40
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loquacius posted:Ok so if a white person is descended from a Mayflower settler are they now Native American? Is 400 years that significantly different from 500? they are native in comparison to the hypothetical chinese army that is attempting to expel them by force, yes
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Oct 8, 2015 17:58
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loquacius posted:Ok what if the entirety of the hypothetical Chinese army had been born in America i would shed no tears if americans killed them, would you?
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Oct 8, 2015 18:01
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loquacius posted:You mean if Americans started just killing Chinese-American people lol you're stupid
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Oct 8, 2015 18:37
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are you jewish
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Oct 8, 2015 18:48
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it is actually a common thing for liberal jewish people to undermine action against israel on the left via ceaseless whining about the unfairness of it all is so he is describing a real phenomenon although phrasing it poorly
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Oct 8, 2015 18:51
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loquacius posted:I think when an I/P conversation has turned to policing the actions of American Jews as a bloc it's time for me to officially say "gently caress this I'm out" speaking of ceaseless whining
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Oct 8, 2015 18:57
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if i check the tumblr thread will i see a lot of posts loling at tumblr people by the guy who can't handle mild factually accurate criticism of his in-group without getting triggered? let's take bets
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Oct 8, 2015 18:59
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AlexanderCA posted:Lol at the moral righteousness brigade applauding settler death. The same posters that cry whenever a western force makes a fuckup, advocating literal warcrimes. the difference between killing settlers and killing doctors without borders is that settlers deserve to die
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Oct 10, 2015 14:31
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i bet you were happy when we killed osama bin laden huh. well let me ask you this: what if instead of osama it was your own mother. yeah. pretty messed up. i think a loading screen from call of duty said it best,
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