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I think i just discovered something on a read through: In 82 Chains' description of the first conquest is the demi-urge in the last two panels Murder the Gods and Topple Their Thrones? They have the same complexion, hair and red third eye.
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Very maybe? Feel free to spin some yarns about it.
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Oct 13, 2015 06:01
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The Mentalizer posted:It definitely looked like she had more than two arms here: We are perhaps looking at an all statements are true scenario.
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Oct 13, 2015 11:36
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Fish Noise posted:Note the sleeve discrepancy. Yeah, it's the sleeve thing that led me to assume she had multiple arms. But she is a blue devil after all, so who's to say she can't just call 'em up when she needs 'em. Comrade Gorbash posted:This was very much what I had in mind! Since you took that one do you mind if I take the other one?
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Oct 13, 2015 14:21
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The Mentalizer posted:Yeah, it's the sleeve thing that led me to assume she had multiple arms. But she is a blue devil after all, so who's to say she can't just call 'em up when she needs 'em. The Mentalizer posted:Since you took that one do you mind if I take the other one?
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The CYA forum thread version of K6BD had an artifact known as the Coat of Arms whose magic was pretty much granting extra arms on demand to its wearer.
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Hm. Two new third parties? Or is Zoss 6 Juggernaut's enemy?
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what im getting is zoss is juggernaut's enemy, but only because juggernaut is loyal to a power that wants a controlling stake over zoss's successor. he's a "royalist", after all. juggernaut is also under the impression that zaid is the successor, which still leaves us with exactly two people in throne who are in on the actual workings of the sitch.
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Oct 14, 2015 09:56
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Well, that's interesting. I wonder who Juggernaut Star's master is, though, if he thinks that the successor will bow to his will. Heck, that he'd be willing to serve him like this. Presumably it's someone powerful, but not one of the demiurges since he wants them dead, and also presumably not 2 Michael. All the gods are dead, as far as we know, meanwhile, so... Hm. Oh, by the way, meta-evidence to Allison being the successor that I forgot in the earlier discussion: When Zoss first calls her by "name", we don't know it's a name. It's the first time we've seen it outside of the title, so it looks like a command, rather than her name. Then, though, we hear the prophecy, and that the successor's name will be "Kill Six Billion Demons", and Zoss's earlier line suddenly gains new meaning. It's narratively making it pretty explicit that it's Allison, even panning outwards to reveal Allison standing there as the name is being said by Jadis, while also illustrating the demiurges' ignorance of the matter. Roland Jones fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Oct 14, 2015 |
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Oct 14, 2015 12:40
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I love J-Star's bike skeletons humping their own components across the angelscape
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Ixjuvin posted:I love J-Star's bike skeletons humping their own components across the angelscape That's a great detail. Also, didn't think much of it before, but he's confirming that it was indeed him who struck down Zoss. So that's fun.
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Comrade Gorbash posted:I agree, it's probably part of her abilities in general. That coat had even more sleeves than Cio had arms when she was introduced. It does make me wonder if there's an upper limit other than what can actually fit in the available space. I just figure it doesn't hurt to be polite since you were the one who requested it in the first place. Thanks! E: and thanks again Cryophage for avatar-izing the pic. the future is WOW fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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Oct 15, 2015 22:40
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Roland Jones posted:That's a great detail. Also, didn't think much of it before, but he's confirming that it was indeed him who struck down Zoss. So that's fun. Im still not clear on how a non-prime angel managed to kill The Conquering King  Edit: Intentional repetition of the Holy Suicide? "a king has his reign, then he dies." "the king is dead long live the king" etc Yadoppsi fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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Oct 16, 2015 04:17
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Is there any particular reason (other than Zoss' God-like powers) that he shouldn't be able to? According to 6 Juggernaut's story he didn't become 'true royalty' (at which point he ascended to his position as king of all creation/new God) until he spoke to Metatron. If he was able to smite the prime angels before acquiring the full power of Yisun then it seems like an igneous angel should be able to cut his head off, God-king or not. But maybe there's some detail I missed or forgot, or I'm misinterpreting the story (which, being a goon, is quite possible).
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The Mentalizer posted:Is there any particular reason (other than Zoss' God-like powers) that he shouldn't be able to? According to 6 Juggernaut's story he didn't become 'true royalty' (at which point he ascended to his position as king of all creation/new God) until he spoke to Metatron. If he was able to smite the prime angels before acquiring the full power of Yisun then it seems like an igneous angel should be able to cut his head off, God-king or not. But maybe there's some detail I missed or forgot, or I'm misinterpreting the story (which, being a goon, is quite possible). It just seems unlikely in the context of what we know about Zoss' absurd level of supernatural badassery. At the moment I'm inclined to believe Zoss let it happen. I fully expect it to be more complicated than that by far.
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well, it was kind of a bushwhack. ive sort of been thinking that zoss isnt actually dead. he was alive enough to appear to allison in the spirit world or whatever that place was, and gog-agog survived having her head blown off with minimal inconvenience. i think hes just laying low.
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paranoid randroid posted:well, it was kind of a bushwhack. Zoss is a just a dude while I'm pretty sure Gog-Agog is a mass of psychic worms in the shape of a person.
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Oct 16, 2015 05:19
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Zoss probably had the element of suprise while the angels had been sitting on their asses for untold ages.
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Oct 16, 2015 05:24
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paranoid randroid posted:well, it was kind of a bushwhack. I think he's dead but if you have enough will you can hold yourself together in the void for a while after you die.
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Hold on.Juggernaut Star posted:The New King meets my master and comes into his kingdom. Singularity restored. Clean.
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It certainly fits with his stated desire to wipe heaven clean and restore the simplicity of a time from before Zoss showed up and wrecked the place like some kind of crusty supernatural squatter. E: paranoid randroid posted:ive sort of been thinking that zoss isnt actually dead. he was alive enough to appear to allison in the spirit world or whatever that place was, and gog-agog survived having her head blown off with minimal inconvenience. i think hes just laying low. I had the same thought. Something like they cut off his head and killed him, but his spirit is still wandering the void. Or perhaps the master key he stuffed into Allison's head still retains a part of his soul from when it was forged, which can manifest when she's hanging out in the void. Captain Oblivious posted:It just seems unlikely in the context of what we know about Zoss' absurd level of supernatural badassery. Oh yeah, I think it would definitely have to be either a seize the moment when his guard is down kind of thing or Zoss specifically leaving himself open for whatever reason. I just meant that from a practical standpoint, it seems reasonable that an angel would be able to do the job of separating his head from his shoulders given the right opportunity to do so. It's funny, I'm not usually one for speculating about stuff like this but there's something about this story and these characters that tweaks the dork part of my brain into thinking about all the weird little details. the future is WOW fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Oct 16, 2015 |
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So are we saying that Creation is YIS and UN is wanting to unmake all?
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All is YISUN to begin with, so the whole comic is just one really drawn out internal debate
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Minor thing, but how thin Juggernaut Star is stands out to me. Despite being a kingslaying badass, his figure is sticklike. He's almost skeletal, and unlike some of the other angels we've seen in the Void, even the inhuman ones, he doesn't look like a living thing at all. He's even lacking in eyes ; almost every other angel seems to have them, well, everywhere, but he has two empty sockets. No wings either, another thing pretty much every other angel we've seen in the Void has had. I wonder why he's so different; it's not just being a Thorn Knight, is it? He's utterly unlike any other angel we've seen.
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i think that an angel's actions and beliefs and feelings affect what they look like. this is why white chain looks very much like a feminine human. being a follower of the path of thorns probably has a fairly recognizable set of effects on an angel's flame soul; as the apparent leader(?) of that sect of angels, it would make sense for juggernaut star to look really, really hosed up
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Roland Jones posted:Minor thing, but how thin Juggernaut Star is stands out to me. Despite being a kingslaying badass, his figure is sticklike. He's almost skeletal, and unlike some of the other angels we've seen in the Void, even the inhuman ones, he doesn't look like a living thing at all. He's even lacking in eyes ; almost every other angel seems to have them, well, everywhere, but he has two empty sockets. No wings either, another thing pretty much every other angel we've seen in the Void has had. I wonder why he's so different; it's not just being a Thorn Knight, is it? He's utterly unlike any other angel we've seen. He does have wings. Or he did. You can see the stubs sticking out of his back. Angels are defined by the shells they take outside of the Void. An angel creating and modifying its own shell isn't just a hideous taboo, it mutilates the angel's true form as well. That's why Juggernaut's body has been compressed and warped and sharpened all over. He's literally bending himself out of shape.
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heres one to think on - in addition to looking human, metatron bleeds. theres something fleshy under his shell.
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i think that's in the void; that's metatron's true form, uncovered by armour. i wonder, did the prime angels that zoss pursued into the void and double-murdered cease to exist, or do angels slain in the void reincarnate
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Maybe that's why we see all these huge seemingly lifeless angels floating around the void, they're meant to reincarnate after being destroyed in the physical world, but maybe they never learned how to reincarnate into the void. Although 2 Michael does present an issue on that front.
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fleshy echidna posted:Maybe that's why we see all these huge seemingly lifeless angels floating around the void, they're meant to reincarnate after being destroyed in the physical world, but maybe they never learned how to reincarnate into the void. Although 2 Michael does present an issue on that front. They're reincarnating, it just takes a long-rear end time. A proper shell takes millennia to grow. A Thorn Knight can hammer one out over a weekend.
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Oxxidation posted:They're reincarnating, it just takes a long-rear end time. A proper shell takes millennia to grow. A Thorn Knight can hammer one out over a weekend. Is that why Michael's new body is much smaller than his Prime body? Did he rush the process and grow a tiny body to get back in the action early?
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Where's my update?
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Where's my update? You're about seven hours early.
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ReagaNOMNOMicks posted:Where's my update? News flash: Forums poster "ReagaNOMNOMicks" is actually a really small female dog! More at 11~!
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ElMaligno posted:News flash: Forums poster "ReagaNOMNOMicks" is actually a really small female dog! More at 11~!  Holy poo poo an actual use for that thing.
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Oct 17, 2015 00:55
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Ultimate evil or follower of YISUN's most devout student?
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reach heaven through motorcycles
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paranoid randroid posted:reach heaven through motorcycles Oh, so that's what Alison's game is going to be—card games on motorcycles. ALISON: "I think I'd rather play a card game standing completely still, on the ground." CIO: "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!" (Actually I guess she would probably say "Naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!")
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Allison 5-Aces
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