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Fedora-wearing bank robbery suspect claims law invalid, will represent himself A man accused of two Ypsilanti bank robberies, including one in which the robber sported a black suit and a fedora, will defend himself in court. Dale Lester Morris, who turned 53 on Sunday, attempted on his own to file a motion disputing the court's jurisdiction, despite still having a public defender, ahead of his scheduled Oct. 8 probable cause hearing in one case and preliminary examination in the another. He told the court at a previous hearing that he would like to file a motion to dismiss the case, court records show. Assistant Washtenaw County Prosecutor Brenda Taylor said Morris also sent a letter in which he said it would be a form of usurpation and treason if the county were to proceed in the case. Morris frequently interrupted 14A-1 District Court Judge Judge J. Cedric Simpson as he tried to explain that there was a process that needed to take place to assure he knew his rights and could defend himself without a public defender. "I don't need no public defender and I just made a motion to the court for subject matter jurisdiction, which you don't have – which the court doesn't have – and my memorandum of law explains that and my motion," Morris said. "So if the court decides not to honor it or dismiss this case, we'll go into interlocutory appeal -- I want to go straight to the Michigan Court of Appeals on this matter." He said he is a citizen of Michigan and the constitution both protects him and supersedes Michigan law, which Taylor was referring to when discussing which rights he needed to be read. After an extended break for Simpson to review the case, and apparent reluctance to bring the verbally combative defendant back in, Morris told the court that the statute that makes bank robberies illegal is invalid because it does not have an enacting clause, which declares legislative authority. He also said his constitutional rights were being violated because Simpson would not immediately address subject matter jurisdiction. Ultimately, Simpson ruled that Morris could represent himself and that the public defender's office would act as standby counsel. He also ruled that the court would recognize his motion and letter. A hearing on the motion has been set for Oct. 27 and a new preliminary examination date was set for Nov. 12. Morris is accused of robbing the Bank of Ann Arbor, 7 W. Michigan Ave., while wearing a fedora on July 8 and robbing Eastern Michigan University Credit Union, 761 Jenness St., while wearing a baseball hat on July 9. At the time of his arrest in Kansas, Pittsfield Township police named him a person of interest in a robbery of a Comerica Bank on July 10. Pittsfield Township Deputy Chief Gordon Schick said Morris has refused to speak to detectives, but the investigation is still active. Michigan Department of Correction records show Morris absconded from parole July 8. He was previously sentenced in 1999 for conducting a criminal enterprise, fleeing an officer, two counts of felonious assault and felony firearm, according to MDOC records. The record also shows he has a number of aliases, including Dale Horne, Big Daddy Horne, Killer Money Horne, Calvin Brown, Butch Morris and a number of variations of his name.
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Good luck at your trial, OP.
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Oct 11, 2015 10:07
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quote:Big Daddy Horne, Killer Money Horne
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Oct 11, 2015 10:10
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those are actually benjamin hornes rap names
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Oct 11, 2015 10:22
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XMNN posted:those are actually benjamin hornes rap names oh poo poo
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Oct 11, 2015 10:24
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so this is the extremely common sovereign citizen argument "but I'm not a citizen of the United States, I'm only a citizen of my state  "what I don't get is this: does he suppose that he couldn't, or wouldn't, be prosecuted just as easily under the state's law??? I know in the US bank robbery is always considered a federal crime and therefore federal courts take precedence, but surely the state of Michigan also has laws on the books making it illegal to take things that don't belong to you from other people at gunpoint? e: of course the only answer is "it doesn't make sense because he's insane", and this is the US where insane people don't get sent to treatment facilities they get sent to prison, very helpful, great TacticalUrbanHomo fucked around with this message at 10:33 on Oct 11, 2015 |
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Oct 11, 2015 10:29
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Quote-Unquote posted:oh poo poo
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Oct 11, 2015 10:36
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berth certificate
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Oct 11, 2015 10:55
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i'm teh sovreignest citizen itt
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Oct 11, 2015 12:08
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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If he's not a citizen then deport him to the ocean
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Oct 11, 2015 12:11
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No enacting clause for loving BANK ROBBERY? That's his golden ticket? What a loving moron.
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Oct 11, 2015 12:22
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Obligatory Handle posted:Good luck at your trial, OP. lolled out loud
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Oct 11, 2015 12:22
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came for fresh videos of sovereign citizens getting owned hardcore, left disappointed
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Oct 11, 2015 13:15
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:what I don't get is this: does he suppose that he couldn't, or wouldn't, be prosecuted just as easily under the state's law??? I know in the US bank robbery is always considered a federal crime and therefore federal courts take precedence, but surely the state of Michigan also has laws on the books making it illegal to take things that don't belong to you from other people at gunpoint? Slantedfloors fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Oct 11, 2015 |
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Oct 11, 2015 13:29
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Here's another case, this time a "Messianic Jew" aka evangelical Christian pastor who defrauded elderly out of lots of money. Initially, he accepted his wrongdoing and plead guilty. Then bam:quote:On Sept. 30, 2015, the same day Staley terminated his work relationship with his lawyer, he sent an unusual letter to the Federal government, resorting to sovereign citizen jargon in a in an attempt to weasel his way out of his prison sentence. In his letter he stated that he “James Edgar” is “not subject to the jurisdiction of the “United States”” therefore rejecting the authority of the US Federal Government and any laws that he admitted to breaking before, claiming that they are “unconstitutional.” https://jimstaleyfraud.wordpress.com/2015/10/06/jim-staley-a-flight-risk-detained-early-has-staley-gone-off-the-deep-end/
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Oct 11, 2015 13:46
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Obligatory Handle posted:Good luck at your trial, OP.
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Oct 11, 2015 13:50
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is it really robbery if you just disclose that you have a gun and ask if you can have some free money
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Oct 11, 2015 14:01
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bing_commander posted:is it really robbery if you just disclose that you have a gun and ask if you can have some free money indeed. plus he wasn't even asking for real money. he was asking for fiat currency, unbacked by gold and printed out of thin air. last time i checked, air was free.
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Oct 11, 2015 14:03
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Didn't read
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Oct 11, 2015 14:53
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sovereign citizens are the best
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Oct 11, 2015 15:27
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Heh fedora?? He should go pack to Reddit imo
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Oct 11, 2015 15:31
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Because Reddit? Wears fedoras.
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Oct 11, 2015 15:32
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at Something Awful, the fedora hat... is whack..
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Oct 11, 2015 15:33
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MALE SHOEGAZE posted:Morris is accused of robbing the Bank of Ann Arbor, 7 W. Michigan Ave., while wearing a fedora on July 8 and robbing Eastern Michigan University Credit Union, 761 Jenness St., while wearing a baseball hat on July 9. A fedora is one thing, but the baseball cap displays a cavalier disregard for the conventions of civilised bank robbery.
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Oct 11, 2015 15:55
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America should be able to vote to release one criminal per year ala American Idol.
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Oct 11, 2015 15:56
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is there gold fringe on the courtroom flag? if so, congratulations, that's your special get out of jail free card
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Oct 11, 2015 15:59
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reignofevil posted:America should be able to vote to release one criminal per year ala American Idol. I want to see a literal "we want barrabas" moment live on american tv
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Oct 11, 2015 16:00
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gameFAQsspinoffETI posted:berth certificate beath certificate
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Oct 11, 2015 16:02
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reignofevil posted:America should be able to vote to release one criminal per year ala American Idol. supply side jesus
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Oct 11, 2015 16:08
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Obligatory Handle posted:Good luck at your trial, OP.
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Oct 12, 2015 11:03
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that flag has a GOLD FRIBGE
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Oct 12, 2015 13:19
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fringe on the flag is so drat frosty the people like, "drat that's a free rear end honky."
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Oct 12, 2015 13:42
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"u can't convict me cause I said so " *goes to jail*
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Oct 12, 2015 13:51
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Are you sure it wasn't a trilby?
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Oct 12, 2015 13:53
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Howard Beale posted:is there gold fringe on the courtroom flag? if so, congratulations, that's your special get out of jail free card Fedora and Freeman of the Land just go so well together.
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Oct 12, 2015 14:31
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ypsililante gently caress kind of name is that
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Oct 12, 2015 15:55
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"Accused of robbing a bank while wearing a fedora"
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Oct 12, 2015 17:10
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cram me sideways posted:ypsililante
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Oct 12, 2015 17:12
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cram me sideways posted:ypsililante the locals call it ypsitucky
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 he got us, that sovereign citizen argument is fool-proof
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