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Pauline Kael posted:No, McDowell is another D&D pedant who is here to educate you about the evils of capitalism. As that sub forum slowly suffocates from being too far up its own rear end in a top hat, I'd guess we'll see more refugees here in the trout Rude
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Oct 20, 2015 20:26
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Nonsense posted:McD posted: this is the whole loving problem and it's been their strategy since, what? the Arch Deluxe? they want to sell fancy food because they're (rightfully) ashamed of their own product and customers. but the people who really want that stuff won't go to loving mcdonalds, their existing customers just want cheap garbage quickly, and even if both of those problems could be resolved their cooking methods, supply chain, business model and labor theory are based around "cook frozen circlet of meat for 45 seconds on each side, put on dry bun, add pickle, squirt ketchup, move on," not building Hand Crafted Artisinal Creations for Discerning Gourmands
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Oct 20, 2015 20:36
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Pauline Kael posted:No, McDowell is another D&D pedant who is here to educate you about the evils of capitalism. As that sub forum slowly suffocates from being too far up its own rear end in a top hat, I'd guess we'll see more refugees here in the trout capitalism is evil paluine kael. dont troll please
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Oct 20, 2015 20:36
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Tezzor posted:capitalism is evil paluine kael. dont troll please If capitalism is so bad how come I can buy breakfast mcmuffins for dinner? Can socialism do that?
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Oct 20, 2015 20:38
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capitalism leads to the filet-o-fish being smaller than a golf ball
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Oct 20, 2015 20:39
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criscodisco posted:2.5 ounces of found beef
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Oct 20, 2015 20:42
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Nonsense posted:capitalism leads to the filet-o-fish being smaller than a golf ball No, it was the regulations that destroyed the fillet-o-fish. A free market it not free if it is in chains.
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Oct 20, 2015 20:46
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Hector Beerlioz posted:No, it was the regulations that destroyed the fillet-o-fish. A free market it not free if it is in chains. 
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Oct 20, 2015 20:47
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Here's how you fix McDonalds: - Rip all of the yuppie crap off the menus like cappucinos and fruit salads and whatever other lame poo poo they're doing these days - Go back to the basics. People like McDonalds food for a reason and it's not because the burgers are made with artisinal flatbread. Also having a complex menu makes it harder to keep quality up. Their menu should be less than 10 items. Total. Fries, McNuggets, Burgers, Big Macs, shakes, and that's about it. - Focus on quality control HARD. One gristly McNugget turns me off for years. Wilted fries are fuckin gross and people remember that poo poo. Their business model is BUILT around sameness, this IS THEIR CORE COMPETENCY GOOD LORD HOW ARE THEY loving THIS UP SO BAD!?! Imagine if every Coca-Cola you bought was slightly different. - Slash prices. Subsidize this by cutting the yuppie crap and marketing budget - Get rid of the "McCafe" garbage interior design. I don't want to stand in line in a Panera that smells like loving fryer grease - Stop freaking out about every dip in sales and trying to redo everything to make up for it.
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Oct 20, 2015 20:47
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Hector Beerlioz posted:No, it was the regulations that destroyed the fillet-o-fish. A free market it not free if it is in chains. free market is a contradiction in terms
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Oct 20, 2015 20:49
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revmoo posted:Here's how you fix McDonalds: Its impossible, the kitchen equipment's purpose is to keep previously cooked food as fresh as possible. Their business model literally cannot support fresh, quality food. Don't forget you're trying to convince people that make the lowest minimum wage to prepare the food as delicately as possible, its just impossible.
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Oct 20, 2015 20:55
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if the mcdonalds scientist is still reading this thread do you know if its true that mcdonalds makes their bbq sauce from old wendys chili drippings?
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Oct 20, 2015 20:56
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a bone to pick posted:Its impossible, the kitchen equipment's purpose is to keep previously cooked food as fresh as possible. Their business model literally cannot support fresh, quality food. Don't forget you're trying to convince people that make the lowest minimum wage to prepare the food as delicately as possible, its just impossible. It doesn't need to be fresh or perfect, just consistent. They are capable of doing this.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:01
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revmoo posted:Here's how you fix McDonalds: This is how Dicks works and it's why it's so amazing.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:04
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Maneki Neko posted:can you just take a poo poo right in the giant vat of poop water? I can poo poo into the magic river inside the head works building. But i took several pissings inside digester tanks
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Oct 20, 2015 21:08
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revmoo posted:It doesn't need to be fresh or perfect, just consistent. They are capable of doing this. You're right, the entire business is based on consistency of the food, all of this stuff is learnt in training and that's the purpose of the equipment. Now, when you have employees that don't speak English and have never had training, that make 7.50 an hour, there's no way to reach that goal. There are issues from the CEO all the way down to the cashiers and there's no easy fix, go out of business already McDonald's.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:14
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McDonalds really should pull a Taco Bell / KFC "gently caress it" about the healthiness of their food and just make crazy stoner food like 6 layer big macs with fries in between. Though they'll never be able to pull that off because their base customer base is not just poors, it is poors who are picky eaters of the worst chicken nugget and 'no tomatoes, ew... but extra ketchup!' 3rd grade variety.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:15
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a bone to pick posted:You're right, the entire business is based on consistency of the food, all of this stuff is learnt in training and that's the purpose of the equipment. Now, when you have employees that don't speak English and have never had training, that make 7.50 an hour, there's no way to reach that goal. I was in a McDonalds in Dublin once, and they guy ahead of me wanted a McFillet but just wanted the bun and fish nothing else. Everyone working there was asain and it was obvious they didnt understand much english. They first served him an empty bun, then when he asked again they just gave him the fish by itself. He got really angry and asked for his money back and shouted he was going to Burger King instead.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:18
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happyhippy posted:I was in a McDonalds in Dublin once, and they guy ahead of me wanted a McFillet but just wanted the bun and fish nothing else. What is it about McDonalds that makes it extra prone to customer tantrums?
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Oct 20, 2015 21:19
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revmoo posted:Here's how you fix McDonalds: yo, this already exists 100%, and it's called In N Out and it's wildly successful+good+popular.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:24
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MrChupon posted:What is it about McDonalds that makes it extra prone to customer tantrums? The secret sauce is the hate goo from Ghostbusters 2
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Oct 20, 2015 21:26
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MrChupon posted:What is it about McDonalds that makes it extra prone to customer tantrums? The only people who eat McDonalds are mentally ill
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Oct 20, 2015 21:47
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Fried Watermelon posted:The only people who eat McDonalds are mentally ill there's a mcdonalds at a major intersection in my city (berkeley) and it's a loving blight. it's almost exclusively homeless and mentally ill peopl,e inside and outside, begging, shouting and screaming at people all the time. the outside of the building is p much covered in piss+poo poo. i don't even see normal people, let alone even college students (outside of breakfast) there and min wage is going up to $15 so idk how they're even still in business.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:55
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Xaris posted:yo, this already exists 100%, and it's called In N Out and it's wildly successful+good+popular. In N Out is where Ronald McDonald will work when he dies and goes to Burger Heaven.
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Oct 20, 2015 21:57
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I think that everyone should work at mcdonalds for like a month, not so that they learn sympathy for the people behind the counter because 90% of them are lifers who've given up or high schoolers, but so that they can look back on it and be like "well i'm not getting paid minimum wage to work a drive thru window in -20 degree weather without being allowed to wear a coat, so thats pretty sweet" One time I got to work at 6 am and the first customer I got I handed him his coffee and he looks at me and goes "how are you people so loving slow" and I just shrugged and told him to have a good day and he drives off all pissy. Another time a dude throws the outside door open, then throws the inside door open, comes into the restaurant screaming about not getting his strawberry jam, and then before anyone can do anything, charges through the doors at the opposite end of the restaurant and leaves - then we watch him walk all the way back over to where he first came in to get back into his truck. Weird dude. It was 2 pm and I was just about to get out, when a lady came into the drive thru, ordered a mocha, then when she came up to pay she just dropped a bag of pennies before driving off. i was curious to see if she'd actually given me the proper change so I stayed about ten minutes late to count the change properly - it was exactly right. While I wondered why the gently caress someone would count that much change so precisely for nothing more than an iced mocha, I looked at all the change i'd spent extra time at work counting and thought "maybe she's just as retarded as me" One time, I was allowed to work an overnight shift, and due to a fuckup on my part a customer had to wait like half an hour for a simple burger and some fries. I handed out the order along with a shitload of apologies because i'd hosed up so bad, and the guy was just like "man i'm at a mcdonalds at 2 in the morning its not like I care about anything anymore" and I was just like "you're an alright dude" and made him a free hot chocolate, which due to the customer behind him honking their horn like a maniac, happened to take about ten more minutes to make while me and the cool dude chatted about bullshit Working at McDonalds is also helpful because the liquor store guy will get to know you so well that he won't even bother asking for ID or pay attention to the fact that you're buying 5 liters of straight bottom shelf vodka all the drat time
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Oct 20, 2015 21:59
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ArbitraryC posted:I mean it admittedly is faster/more convenient if your definition of convenience largely overlaps with the faster part but yeah I just don't personally see it as a good tradeoff compared to grabbing a big ol bowl of pho or something and am surprised so many people do. Like I have coworkers that regularly hit fast food joints for lunch and idgi. I used to work at a billing office that shared a parking lot with a wonderful little mom and pop Greek place. All the lardasses there would jump in their cars and head for McDonalds and KFC for lunch, yet make gagging sounds when they'd see I had walked over and brought back calamari or souvlaki or snails. I could never understand that mentality. Especially since I was paying less than they were for lunch. MrChupon posted:McDonalds really should pull a Taco Bell / KFC "gently caress it" about the healthiness of their food and just make crazy stoner food like 6 layer big macs with fries in between. They should use the same technology they use to make buns out of ramen noodles to make buns out of wads of fries and cheese. I'd actually eat that. JediTalentAgent posted:Maybe it's just me, but I think McDs stores got worse after they brought in their premium coffee assortments and frozen drinks and what not. Those seem like a moneymaker, but they also seem like the moment the stores for me really took a downturn. I have noticed that too. It's been too long since I worked at a McDonalds to remember how the kitchen worked, but it can't help that every time I've seen someone order one of their faggy coffee sundae things, the person running the register can't figure out how to use it and has to get someone from the kitchen who does.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:06
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"Insolvent" is a word that best describes the diarreha I get from McDonalds low quality food.
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Oct 20, 2015 22:09
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they should have gotten rid of their regular disgusting chicken nuggets and just made chicken selects be chicken nuggets instead those things were awesome and basically the only item i'd go to a mcdonalds to order
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Oct 20, 2015 22:10
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gently caress, I was still in highschool when they came out with chicken selects. I remember they did the free sample bit at the beginning, and I thought they were pretty decent. Do they still do that poo poo where it's cheaper to order 4 4-piece boxes of nuggets instead of the 20 box?
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Oct 20, 2015 22:55
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Nonsense posted:capitalism leads to the filet-o-fish being smaller than a golf ball Of course, fast food places in the soviet bloc were plentiful and robust Tezzor posted:capitalism is evil paluine kael. dont troll please Thank God, Tezzor is here, look upon his works and despair
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Oct 20, 2015 23:16
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inertia is going to keep mcdonalds from going under for the next few centuries at least
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Oct 20, 2015 23:19
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Pauline Kael posted:Of course, fast food places in the soviet bloc were plentiful and robust Not gonna lie, I've always wanted to try the commie East Berlin hotdog, the ketwurst.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:20
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Robo Reagan posted:inertia is going to keep mcdonalds from going under for the next few centuries at least The last McDonald's to close will be on the moon near Lake Armstrong.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:21
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Business Gorillas posted:The CEOs can just fire anyone who starts whining about their pay, hth that's not how it works actually p sure a CEO can't just fire a board member.
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Oct 20, 2015 23:28
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CEOs are like US presidents theres all sorts of checks and balances and stuff and they can usually be voted out one way or another
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Oct 20, 2015 23:30
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Moridin920 posted:that's not how it works actually there's a this american life that talked about a board member that got super pissed about how much the CEO was giving himself in bonuses while the company was failing and iirc the CEO convinced the shareholders to just vote him off of the board edit: i found it if you want to waste 15 minutes http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/543/wake-up-now
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Oct 20, 2015 23:31
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thats what the idiot gets for not agreeing with everything the CEO did so he could get some of that cash himself
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Oct 20, 2015 23:32
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Business Gorillas posted:there's a this american life that talked about a board member that got super pissed about how much the CEO was giving himself in bonuses while the company was failing and iirc the CEO convinced the shareholders to just vote him off of the board well yeah the pertinent piece of information there being 'CEO convinced the shareholders to vote the other dude off the board.' Other than that persuasive power, the CEO has no ability to fire a board member. That's all with the other board members slash majority shareholders. The reason CEOs get traded around like athletes and get paid so much with such nice severances is because the corporate culture has created this phenomenon where boards think that's what it takes to get a talented executive. It's not a question of is the CEO overpaid, it's a question of 'if we don't give the CEO millions then we'll never get a good CEO because they'll all go work somewhere that will give them millions.' It's kind of a crazy game that has come about in the last couple decades. imo CEO wages should be somehow tied to the wages of the lowest rung employee so if he wants to give himself a $10m/yr salary great but they have to pay their employees say 1/100th of that as their yearly salary minimum. Make that a federal law and watch the wealth gap shrink. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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Pauline Kael posted:Thank God, Tezzor is here, look upon his works and despair you are smooth as a ken doll.
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