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 Tales of Zestiria is the newest entry in the Tales of series. It was released today in NA and last week in EU, on PS3, PS4, and Steam. For those who have never played a Tales of game, they're action RPGs that tend to have strong combat systems but plots of debatable quality, albeit held up usually well-done character interactions. In service of the last point the series is known for it's skits, short optional conversions between party members that can pop up in towns and dungeons. They are often funny. What's new: Zestiria features combat similar to Tales of Graces F, but with the addition of seamless transitions between the overworld and battles. Further, your party is divided into human and seraph characters. The protagonist Sorey, as well as another character Rose, can use the new Armitization feature to merge with a Seraph, producing a powerful hybrid between the two. Also the music is being done by Go Shiina instead of Sakuraba (Shiina was also responsible for the Legendia OST) and is real good. The controversial: Zestiria was released to a lot of controversy in Japan, for two main reasons: The first is simple; the seamless transitions came with a Real Bad Camera The second is more story based: One character who was advertised as being a main character ends up playing a pretty small role in the story, and from a gameplay perspective is booted out of the party permanently at a certain point, depriving you a potential character to play at. Many believe that this occurs because of a scrapped route-split, and that the way it plays out ultimately hurts the story as a whole. Which version: More as it develops, but apparently the PS3 and PS4 are basically identical while the PC version isn't terrible but has some potential tearing and frame rate issues. ---         
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Game's throwing AP at me like candy. Also Mikeleo really doesn't like his brother flirting with human girls.
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Oct 20, 2015 02:48
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i'm a huge babby, can i change my dudes' names like i did in vesperia
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Oct 20, 2015 02:49
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I was the guy that was going to Let's play it on PC. Runs great on all maxed settings. But drops to 18 to 20 fps when recording with Action on even rock bottom settings. Anyone know any recording software with less of an impact on performance? It doesn't sound like much but the performance hit is noticeable.
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Oct 20, 2015 02:49
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The White Dragon posted:i'm a huge babby, can i change my dudes' names like i did in vesperia no but you can give them sunglasses and silly hats in every scene
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Oct 20, 2015 02:50
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Well I can't argue with that, I did already put two extra swords on Sorey like some kind of bitchboy who watches too much One Piece
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Oct 20, 2015 02:53
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The White Dragon posted:bitchboy who watches too much One Piece Wow rude.
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Oct 20, 2015 02:55
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Currently downloading this game, I've played Symphonia, Vesperia, and like 2/3rds of the way through Phantasia until I got stuck so this should be fun.
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Oct 20, 2015 02:55
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i played tales of hearts r recently and hated a few things about it. how does zestria improve the following: the character screen had like 7 different menus that you need to customize for each party member and everything is poorly explained. it takes a really long time to get everything set for each character at the start of each play session. the battle system felt clunky in moving/targeting enemies like it was beholden to older entries in the series rather than giving you totally free movment. also it didn't seem to require any skill or strategy in most of the fights until i hit a wall at the end fighting some giant worm thing before the final boss where just spamming attack didn't work anymore and had to actually figure out how to play the game correctly to avoid getting poisoned/petrified to death instantly - I think this is a balance issue as much as an i'm stupid issue the story is padded with hours of small talk and innuendo jokes that just keep coming
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Oct 20, 2015 02:56
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Real hurthling! posted:i played tales of hearts r recently and hated a few things about it. how does zestria improve the following: not sure about the first, but combat wise hearts R was a low priority rerelease (i think it was outsourced?) and the localization was notoriously pretty liberal, so the latter two probably do not apply
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Oct 20, 2015 02:58
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Cake Attack posted:no but you can give them sunglasses and silly hats in every scene is the costume accessory system at least as good as the one in xillia? this is very important
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Oct 20, 2015 03:02
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Well what was the one in Xillia? This one lets you put on a costume, a hairstyle, and up to three accessories. It doesn't keep track of accessory's "type," so you can just put on a ton of swords like I did.
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Oct 20, 2015 03:03
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I haven't gone far, just got to our Beloved Peasant Village that is sure to explode somehow, but I've have perfect gameplay so far. Mostly. I'm playing keyboard and mouse and they refuse to let you manipulate the camera with the keyboard. Or, at least, it's not in the 'controls' setting. Other than that (and how sparse Sorey's skillset is at the start) it's fine.
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Oct 20, 2015 03:04
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The White Dragon posted:Well what was the one in Xillia? This one lets you put on a costume, a hairstyle, and up to three accessories. It doesn't keep track of accessory's "type," so you can just put on a ton of swords like I did. Basically that. But you could also resize, recolor and reposition them. Xillia was limited to 1 head type and 2 other.
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Oct 20, 2015 03:05
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Playing on PC, have everything max and am getting a solid 30 at all times. Mid range PC too. The voice acting and the way the cutscenes are shot are both really bad and stilted. The previous games weren't super great about this either but here it's worse. It doesn't even sound like the actors are trying, it's so generic and lifeless. And I already don't like how the battle camera is behind the player and not a side view like in other games.
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Oct 20, 2015 03:10
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Yeah, you can resize, change color, and reposition, too. I seem to be getting good framerates on true fullscreen, but they tank on borderless. GTX770, which is what, slightly outdated by now. I should probably update my drivers 
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Oct 20, 2015 03:10
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I wish the Tales nostalgia costumes were better thought out.
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Oct 20, 2015 03:32
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Pureauthor posted:I wish the Tales nostalgia costumes were better thought out. Don't want ANOTHER Leon and Yuri costume, though? Seriously though, I agree.
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Oct 20, 2015 03:35
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Only had one freeze so far, coming out of the noble section of ladylake. Had to full restart, but luckily quicksave is super fast/nice so not much progress lost. Other than that going to repeat my advice from the other thread here: play with stereo instead of surround sound and turn fullscreen off. Fullscreen on has massive tearing even with v-sync on and surround leads to dead audio and crashes. Can't say what is causing fps problems since I've had none--seems really stable outside of that one freeze.
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Oct 20, 2015 03:36
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I haven't played a tales game since destiny, I've taken a look at some of the battle gameplay footage and the 3d combat (also the fact im 15 years older  ) makes it look a little complex. can someone give me a brief run down on the battle system if they have time?
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Oct 20, 2015 03:44
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The protagonist dude kinda looks like a chump, but I guess not everyone can be Yuri Lowell. Or really any of Vesperia's cast.
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Oct 20, 2015 03:47
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drink slurm posted:I haven't played a tales game since destiny, I've taken a look at some of the battle gameplay footage and the 3d combat (also the fact im 15 years older Real quick:
There's more that has to do with Armitization-specific mechanics, healing, and a really crazy equipment and crafting system. The really, really short version is that you attack with artes, there are different combinations based on what directions you're pressing when you attack, and you can mix in Arcane Artes whenever you want. Caphi fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Oct 20, 2015 |
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Oct 20, 2015 03:54
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it won't launch
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Oct 20, 2015 03:59
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Downloading now. Pretty sad they just muted the vocals for the opening. I mean, Ring a Bell got an English version, why not this much better song?
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Oct 20, 2015 03:59
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So uh, on PC how do you get the pre-order DLC in game? My thing says I have both extra costume DLCs but so far no one has any alternate costumes. Also where is a location guide for the attachments.
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Oct 20, 2015 04:01
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chumbler posted:The protagonist dude kinda looks like a chump, but I guess not everyone can be Yuri Lowell. Or really any of Vesperia's cast. Let me tell you why Yuri Lowell actually sucks. You see *vomits feces* Which is why Asbel is a much better protagonist, because he has a complete character arc. I'm endlessly amused at how Sorey's little brother doesn't like his girlfriend, though. Mike is a cool guy.
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Oct 20, 2015 04:01
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Once you actually get your hands on Zestiria it's probably easier to pick up than Graces, control-wise. The only weird/different part is that base artes use the total count instead of their own, and you could argue that that makes more sense. They both start you out with just Base Artes and then tell you you can mix in Arcane ones afterward.Level Slide posted:Let me tell you why Yuri Lowell actually sucks. Same.
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Oct 20, 2015 04:09
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Is the game crashing on launch of anyone else. am i all alone
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Oct 20, 2015 04:10
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Don't forget to grab this before November, fellow cool Steam people: https://www.bandainamcoent.eu/vipcorner/get/slug/tales-of-zestiria-alisha-s-story-additional-chapter-pc-digital
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Oct 20, 2015 04:10
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Caphi posted:stuff So if im getting this, its basically a four attack (arte) chain, sometimes subbing in arcane or spells for a basic arte when its beneficial(?) then moving to a cooldown period where you dodge/block until the attack phase repeats a few seconds later? how much control over ai party members would one be expected to have, can you basically never touch them on "normal" difficulty and they'll do a deec job, do I need to take limited control of them to do that thing where they will transform the mc?
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Oct 20, 2015 04:11
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Caphi posted:Real quick: So is it sorta like Graces with the branching arte choices?
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Oct 20, 2015 04:12
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Eddain posted:So is it sorta like Graces with the branching arte choices? It is, in fact, like Graces. The main difference (apart from the chain system being different) is that with Graces, you could do 1-B-2, whereas in Zestiria, it would be 1-B-3. Also, steps count as moves. (This means you can do a step and then a 2-arte, or three steps and then a spell and the steps will count for quick-casting.) drink slurm posted:So if im getting this, its basically a four attack (arte) chain, sometimes subbing in arcane or spells for a basic arte when its beneficial(?) then moving to a cooldown period where you dodge/block until the attack phase repeats a few seconds later? how much control over ai party members would one be expected to have, can you basically never touch them on "normal" difficulty and they'll do a deec job, do I need to take limited control of them to do that thing where they will transform the mc? You can Armitize from either side. It's more beneficial to play the human actually because you can swap your Seraph with any other Seraph (unless the one you want is already Armitized). I didn't have a lot of trouble with the game on Second difficulty so Normal should be fine.
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Oct 20, 2015 04:17
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AfroSquirrel posted:Don't forget to grab this before November, fellow cool Steam people: https://www.bandainamcoent.eu/vipcorner/get/slug/tales-of-zestiria-alisha-s-story-additional-chapter-pc-digital What's the deal with this? Is it a separate thing you play from the main game? Something that pops up during the main game itself?
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Oct 20, 2015 04:21
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PurplieNurplie posted:What's the deal with this? Is it a separate thing you play from the main game? Something that pops up during the main game itself? It shows up in the main menu, but it actually takes place after the main game. Don't play it until you have a clear data unless you really want to know the ending. (If you have clear data it'll pick up gear and stuff from there, too, I think.)
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Oct 20, 2015 04:24
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Rest easy everyone - I got it to launch
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Oct 20, 2015 04:25
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what changed, for posterity's sake?
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Oct 20, 2015 04:47
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p.s. w/r/t to the OP's "controversy" section, the major non-plot complaint I saw at the time was less the camera and more a wholesale condemnation of Armitization as a gameplay mechanic for a laundry list of supposed negatives, including taking over the game, making the characters samey, making Seraphs individually irrelevant, degrading the party-action feel (by encouraging you to reduce your moving bodies to 2 or 3), and possibly even leading directly to the, uh, plot complaint. I thought it wasn't that bad, myself, but it's the one that showed up in more reviews and posts, I think. There was definitely complaining about the camera, though.
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Oct 20, 2015 05:07
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Caphi posted:Same. does that apply to all of my post?
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Oct 20, 2015 05:09
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Level Slide posted:does that apply to all of my post? All of it unironically except for the word "Asbel."
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Oct 20, 2015 05:10
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Didn't find the Armatisation system bothered me personally but I imagine it makes things annoying if you want to play as anyone other than the two human characters.
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