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Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

bewbies posted:

can a smart baseball person explain how a knuckleballer could be "off"? is it like a mechanical thing? fatigue? position of the moon?

Sometimes you just don't have a good " feel" for your pitch and it doesn't knuckle or break as much as you need it to. For knuckleballers this is more an issue because then it basically turns into a lovely changeup that dudes can crush all day. If you don't have any other pitches to fall back on which is often the case for knuckleballers you can get blown up quick.

I should say mechanically it could be a combination of a billion things, or he is just having a tough time in the cold gripping the ball. This happens to every pitcher and when it does you need other pitches to fall back on.

Popete fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Oct 20, 2015

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Sandpuppy
Jun 16, 2012

Social Abscess
of the
Universe
Hochevar time :ohdear:

fknlo
Jul 6, 2009


Fun Shoe

Sandpuppy posted:

Hochevar time :ohdear:

Why would Ned give up when we have the lead????

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:

Every single person who slides into the base at full speed is going to pop off of it by a small amount for a split second because that's how physics works. If you want to review plays like that you might as well eliminate tag plays and make everything a force play

Well if you pop up and are 10 inches off of the bag you should probably be out

UZR IS BULLSHIT
Jan 25, 2004

Popete posted:

Sometimes you just don't have a good " feel" for your pitch and it doesn't knuckle or break as much as you need it to. For knuckleballers this is more an issue because then it basically turns into a lovely changeup that dudes can crush all day. If you don't have any other pitches to fall back on which is often the case for knuckleballers you can get blown up quick.

Additionally, the knuckleball isn't affected by the flow being turbulent, but by the flow transitioning to turbulence, which is probably the best example of a "butterfly effect" phenomenon that there is in classical mechanics. It is truly a chaotic pitch in the literal sense of the word.

Poque
Sep 11, 2003

=^-^=

ghlbtsk posted:

Trying to keep up with the game is difficult when you can't watch at work. (stupid schedulers . . .)

Man, when Dickey is on, he's unhittable.

When he's off, it's like



the gently caress is wrong with you

UZR IS BULLSHIT
Jan 25, 2004

MassaShowtime posted:

Well if you pop up and are 10 inches off of the bag you should probably be out

That is visible in real time and with the naked eye

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


"there's a bug on the camera lens... or a gigantic bug on the field"

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




The Berzerker posted:

"there's a bug on the camera lens... or a gigantic bug on the field"

I laughed at this :(

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!

Sandpuppy posted:

Seems like this has happening a lot since the second half. I wonder if/how it's going to affect team's running games next year.

I wouldn't mind something like treating it like a neighborhood play, as long as you're still over the base while you pop off for a split second you're fine.

But that'd have to be a rule change.

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


Me too. I will stop laughing if we put grandpa Hawkins in though

Sandpuppy
Jun 16, 2012

Social Abscess
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So this Hendricks guy seems pretty good. We probably shouldn't have let him go.

Northjayhawk
Mar 8, 2008

by exmarx

Grittybeard posted:

I wouldn't mind something like treating it like a neighborhood play, as long as you're still over the base while you pop off for a split second you're fine.

But that'd have to be a rule change.

Maybe leave the rule alone but make "came off the bag" non-reviewable. If the umpire doesn't see it, its probably something we don't want to overturn anyway.

Len Dykstra
Oct 24, 2010

Northjayhawk posted:

Maybe leave the rule alone but make "came off the bag" non-reviewable. If the umpire doesn't see it, its probably something we don't want to overturn anyway.

You give umpires too much credit

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


Nice grab.

Northjayhawk
Mar 8, 2008

by exmarx
This is probably Toronto's best chance for a comeback. The bullpen doesn't get easier after Hoch

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:

That is visible in real time and with the naked eye

Well with the Rios play I personally saw it immediately as it happened. The ump flat out missed the call.

shadok
Dec 12, 2004

You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.
Fun Shoe

Sandpuppy posted:

So this Hendricks guy seems pretty good. We probably shouldn't have let him go.

He has really stepped up in this game. Through 2015 he was a semi-reliable mid-game reliever but you didn't really want to leave him in more than two innings.

shadok
Dec 12, 2004

You tried to destroy it once before, Commodore.
The result was a wrecked ship and a dead crew.
Fun Shoe

Grittybeard posted:

I wouldn't mind something like treating it like a neighborhood play, as long as you're still over the base while you pop off for a split second you're fine.

But that'd have to be a rule change.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if we see this within the next couple of years.

Caseman
Mar 21, 2006

Beautiful double

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
gently caress me hawkins is going in according to mlb.tv

Grittybeard
Mar 29, 2010

Bad, very bad!
I just glanced up at the end but was that a funeral home commercial making fun of a guy about to kill himself in KC?

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
I don't know how many four pitch walks Salvador Perez has had in his career but it can't be that many

straight up brolic
Jan 31, 2007

After all, I was nice in ball,
Came to practice weed scented
Report card like the speed limit

:homebrew::homebrew::homebrew:

Donaldson is going to ruin Davis like Pujols did to Lidge

XYZ
Aug 31, 2001

Hawkins in, gg Royals

alpha_destroy
Mar 23, 2010

Billy Butler: Fat Guy by Day, Doubles Machine by Night
I never expect Salvy to walk.

Sandpuppy
Jun 16, 2012

Social Abscess
of the
Universe

alpha_destroy posted:

I never expect Salvy to walk.

He's all beat to poo poo. Too tuckered out to swing.

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

Tortured By Flan
poo poo jays get it together. I need some game 7s

alpha_destroy
Mar 23, 2010

Billy Butler: Fat Guy by Day, Doubles Machine by Night
Hawkins looks kinda like Cedric Daniels from the Wire

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


The Berzerker posted:

Me too. I will stop laughing if we put grandpa Hawkins in though

SEE

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

hawkins....

alpha_destroy
Mar 23, 2010

Billy Butler: Fat Guy by Day, Doubles Machine by Night
What the gently caress have they done with the real Alex Rios?

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."
Hawkins comes in, Hawkins results

BWV
Feb 24, 2005


Do not get at all why you'd bring in Hawkins. He's been shelled all playoffs and the game is (was) still in reach.

Sashimi
Dec 26, 2008


College Slice
Well gee who could have seen that coming

saints gambit
Apr 8, 2004
a donut with no holes is a danish

alpha_destroy posted:

Hawkins looks kinda like Cedric Daniels from the Wire

He does a little.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
It's not like being down three runs at home is an insurmountable thing for the Blue Jays but putting in Hawkins seems like kind of conceding the game

The Berzerker
Feb 24, 2006

treat me like a dog


bewbies posted:

It's not like being down three runs at home is an insurmountable thing for the Blue Jays but putting in Hawkins seems like kind of conceding the game

yeah I agree, I don't know why they would ever put Hawkins in, he is old slow and bad. This is game 4, can't be trying to save guys for another game when you're down 2 games to 1 and down by 3 runs

Constellation I
Apr 3, 2005
I'm a sucker, a little fucker.
Gibbons you loving idiot

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BWV
Feb 24, 2005


Is mark Lowe dead?

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