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RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

Arian_Samurai posted:

WELCOME TO THE HE-MAN WOMAN HATERS WEBRING

SIGN THE GUESTBOOK....IF YOU DARE!

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Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:

Get back to me when any of those groups actually focus on any of this:

Young women actually make more on average than young men and are actually favored 2:1 when hiring for STEM positions
Men are subject to conscription
Live shorter lives
Make up 92% of workplace fatalities
Commit suicide at a rate 4 times that of women
Make up 62% of homeless and 82% of the chronically homeless
Society wide men are viewed as pedophiles waiting to happen
Circumcision being widely accepted
Etc


The candle that burns twice as bright burns half as long.

Ether Drunk
Jan 31, 2007

Welcome to a world called Gor *whipcrack*

subhuman filth
Nov 1, 2006

i am taking the most horrible acid poo poo right now. it generally has the consistency of clay but stings horribly everything it touches. every time the cruel feces is ejected my body is wracked with toxic chills and rigors. occasionally my rear end in a top hat will blurt out a hot bolus of liquid poo poo like a sputtering faucet, coating every surface in acrid paste. i badly need a shower. i badly need a blanket.

cthulusnewzulubbq
Jan 26, 2009

I saw something
NASTY
in the woodshed.

Arian_Samurai posted:

WELCOME TO THE HE-MAN WOMAN HATERS WEBRING

SIGN THE GUESTBOOK....IF YOU DARE!

Lord Frankenstyle
Dec 3, 2005

Mmmm,
You smell like Lysol Wipes.

subhuman filth posted:

i am taking the most horrible acid poo poo right now. it generally has the consistency of clay but stings horribly everything it touches. every time the cruel feces is ejected my body is wracked with toxic chills and rigors. occasionally my rear end in a top hat will blurt out a hot bolus of liquid poo poo like a sputtering faucet, coating every surface in acrid paste. i badly need a shower. i badly need a blanket.

Yeah.

Bitches...

The Saurus
Dec 3, 2006

by Smythe
singing intro to the manosphere to the tune of highway to the dangerzone right now

Serjeant Snubbin
Feb 1, 2002

Pillbug
I am currently doing very manly activities. Ask me about my virility.

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
I'll never be your beast of burden
My back is broad but it's a hurting
All I want is for you to make love to me
I'll never be your beast of burden
I've walked for miles my feet are hurting
All I want is for you to make love to me
Am I hard enough
Am I rough enough
Am I rich enough
I'm not too blind to see
I'll never be your beast of burden
So let's go home and draw the curtains
Music on the radio
Come on baby make sweet love to me
Am I hard enough
Am I rough enough
Am I rich enough
I'm not too blind to see
Oh little sister
Pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, girl
You're a pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty, pretty girl
Pretty, pretty
Such a pretty, pretty, pretty girl
Come on baby please, please, please
I'll tell ya
You can put me out
On the street
Put me out
With no shoes on my feet
But, put me out, put me out
Put me out of misery
Yeah, all your sickness
I can suck it up
Throw it all at me
I can shrug it off
There's one thing baby
That I don't understand
You keep on telling me
I ain't your kind of man
Ain't I rough enough, ooh baby
Ain't I tough enough
Ain't I rich enough, in love enough
Ooh! Ooh! Please
I'll never be your beast of burden
I'll never be your beast of burden
Never, never, never, never, never, never, never be
I'll never be your beast of burden
I've walked for miles and my feet are hurting
All I want is you to make love to me
I don't need beast of burden
I need no fussing
I need no nursing
Never, never, never, never, never, never, never be

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
lil MGTOW poem i wrote this morning as i was contemplating the tiny wad of ashy callous and scar tissue that is my johnson

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams
Wake me up when we get to the slapping bitches part.

Roy
Sep 24, 2007

MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:

Get back to me when any of those groups actually focus on any of this:

Young women actually make more on average than young men and are actually favored 2:1 when hiring for STEM positions
Men are subject to conscription
Live shorter lives
Make up 92% of workplace fatalities
Commit suicide at a rate 4 times that of women
Make up 62% of homeless and 82% of the chronically homeless
Society wide men are viewed as pedophiles waiting to happen
Circumcision being widely accepted
Etc

Instead of just calling women whores, writing endless diatribes about how awful (American) women are, gross guides to banging women in different countries, and other bullshit that doesn't do anything to help anyone of any gender.

I'm pretty sure that PUA groups are on top of this. Maybe think a little before you poste.

Captain Yossarian
Feb 24, 2011

All new" Rings of Fire"

Ether Drunk posted:

Welcome to a world called Gor *whipcrack*

Laughing_Stock
Jun 19, 2008
Actually been some pretty funny replies to this thread, and honestly a lot of the names and jargon are ridiculous. But hey, I didn't choose the term "Manosphere" I'm just stuck with using it.

I'm not going to defend any of these movements. MRAs have a just cause in many instances, but are too worried about being correct and arguing ideologies with feminists. While self improvement is laudable, a huge portion of PUA/Red Pill philosophy centers around a group of elites who allegedly gently caress all the time looking down on beta have-not simps. And while I admire the idea of male self-determination independent of women, MGTOW is almost excessively unapologetic in it's criticism of female behavior leading to some rather extreme views. However, I don't think the picture painted of these groups by most media is representative of them at all.

In every industrialized nation marriage rates and birth rates are falling. Simultaneously people are choosing to have children at a later age, and more and more children are being born into single parent households. No one genuinely knows what all the economic and social consequences will be as the US faces a declining population and has to undergo massive welfare reform (especially Social Securities paygo system) and honestly it wouldn't be exaggerating to say that this is a problem on the scale of global climate change. The bottom line for me is that I think these movements are an early indicator and a reflection of an ongoing massive change in how men and women interact with each other, and it's likely that men's movements will only continue to grow in size to reflect changing attitudes about society and sex.

Tujague posted:

Yeah, why aren't these groups focusing on a bizzare, extremely selective, axe-grindy list of highly ambivalent statistical factoid-oids, most of which are disputed and subject to a gigantic list of possible causes and mitigating factors, instead of being all stupid and poo poo?

I mean OK, in what way are they bizzarre, extremely selective, axe-grindy, or highly ambivalent? You're using a lot of words but you're not really saying anything...

Yaldabaoth
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth

MY PALE GOTH SKIN posted:

Get back to me when any of those groups actually focus on any of this:

Young women actually make more on average than young men and are actually favored 2:1 when hiring for STEM positions
Men are subject to conscription
Live shorter lives
Make up 92% of workplace fatalities
Commit suicide at a rate 4 times that of women
Make up 62% of homeless and 82% of the chronically homeless
Society wide men are viewed as pedophiles waiting to happen
Circumcision being widely accepted
Etc

Instead of just calling women whores, writing endless diatribes about how awful (American) women are, gross guides to banging women in different countries, and other bullshit that doesn't do anything to help anyone of any gender.

It would be nice if we had a men's group that actually focused on these issues but most of them think the biggest issue facing men is women won't gently caress them

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
Men are largely superfluous today. Under modern society there's no good reason to have 50% of the population be the stupider, uglier and more inherently violent sex. We should really work to reduce this number to about 10%, starting of course with the brokedick losers who have most acutely felt their irrelevance and blamed everyone but themselves

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
mras and mgotw dont actually exist dumbass, they're just a fairy tale so no pussy-gettin male feminists have someone lower than them on the totem pole to poop on

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

wiffle ball bat posted:

mras and mgotw dont actually exist dumbass, they're just a fairy tale so no pussy-gettin male feminists have someone lower than them on the totem pole to poop on

thats a mirror

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
My favorite part is when that article got published saying women can't find dates due to them refusing to "date down" and instead of it being all "maybe you should treat men like human beings instead of a walking wallet. You can't expect to just be nice to men and then put out. It's not like a vending machine" it was all "this is a problem with society we need to fix.

Man can't get a date he's a virgin mra loser.
Woman can't get a date she's a victim.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost
Don't let your fedora hit you on the way out, OP.

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

Volume posted:

My favorite part is when that article got published saying women can't find dates due to them refusing to "date down" and instead of it being all "maybe you should treat men like human beings instead of a walking wallet. You can't expect to just be nice to men and then put out. It's not like a vending machine" it was all "this is a problem with society we need to fix.

Man can't get a date he's a virgin mra loser.
Woman can't get a date she's a victim.

the problem: women refusing to date ugly dumb losers. the blame: on women

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe

Volume posted:

My favorite part is when that article got published saying women can't find dates due to them refusing to "date down" and instead of it being all "maybe you should treat men like human beings instead of a walking wallet. You can't expect to just be nice to men and then put out. It's not like a vending machine" it was all "this is a problem with society we need to fix.

Man can't get a date he's a virgin mra loser.
Woman can't get a date she's a victim.

Was that the article that was like "hey, maybe try dating a carpenter or plumber instead of a social media expert"?

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Arian_Samurai posted:

Was that the article that was like "hey, maybe try dating a carpenter or plumber instead of a social media expert"?

No it was the article that said men don't have an issue dating down so they don't have the same problem and that is really unfair and further proof of the level of inequality women suffer

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
instead of convincing women they need to date the smelly penniless idiot demographic, shouldn't we as men start a false flag movement convincing men to be stupider, angrier and more worthless so those of us who are in on it need only to shower before we play videogames all day to pull down doctor-supermodels

Laughing_Stock
Jun 19, 2008

Applewhite posted:

Don't let your fedora hit you on the way out, OP.

I've always looked terrible in hats. Due to circumstances beyond my control, I had my head shaved once and I tried to wear a hat to cover it up. My buddies said I looked like a cancer treatment patient.

Roy
Sep 24, 2007

Tezzor posted:

instead of convincing women they need to date the smelly penniless idiot demographic, shouldn't we as men start a false flag movement convincing men to be stupider, angrier and more worthless so those of us who are in on it need only to shower before we play videogames all day to pull down doctor-supermodels

Won't work, women can smell beta genes.

Ride The Gravitron
May 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

Laughing_Stock posted:

I've always looked terrible in hats. Due to circumstances beyond my control, I had my head shaved once and I tried to wear a hat to cover it up. My buddies said I looked like a cancer treatment patient.

Same I just look awful in hats. Beanies are cool though

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose
Shut the gently caress up, Tezzor.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I like the part where yesterday the UK government announced that women on average earn 19% less than men.

Ahundredbux
Oct 25, 2007

The right to bear arms

Quarex posted:

Men Going Their Own Way

tl;dr but still got stuck on this post and started hearing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ul-cZyuYq4

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Volume posted:

No it was the article that said men don't have an issue dating down so they don't have the same problem and that is really unfair and further proof of the level of inequality women suffer
I really do want to remain positively engaged even with people whose viewpoints fundamentally differ from my own, but...does "willing to date down" really sound like the men's rights movement? I thought the whole point was refusing to date someone you deem of insufficient quality for your own personal standards?

Roy
Sep 24, 2007

Quarex posted:

I really do want to remain positively engaged even with people whose viewpoints fundamentally differ from my own, but...does "willing to date down" really sound like the men's rights movement? I thought the whole point was refusing to date someone you deem of insufficient quality for your own personal standards?

I think the issue is that in an equal world, men who fall behind in terms of career and education have a harder time than women who fall behind.

Tezzor
Jul 29, 2013
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!

Roy posted:

I think the issue is that in an equal world, men who fall behind in terms of career and education have a harder time than women who fall behind.

because of their lack of ability and intelligence

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
A shame that we raise our boys to prioritize stoic denial and physical strength over actually useful life skills.

If only there were a movement that brought to light the vile ways that gendered expectations damage children all through their lives and sought to end such hurtful normative behavior modification... alas, such a movement will surely never exist, or these men would embrace it wholeheartedly

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
spheres are p. gay and ladylike tbh not clear why they aren't interested in tougher forms like parallelepipeds and t. like

cthulusnewzulubbq
Jan 26, 2009

I saw something
NASTY
in the woodshed.

ALL-PRO SEXMAN posted:

Shut the gently caress up, Tezzor.

Pththya-lyi
Nov 8, 2009

THUNDERDOME LOSER 2020

Quarex posted:

Unless there are vicious girl gangs that demand macho behavior out there that are as yet unknown to science.

These dudes usually seem to bring up the White Feather movement, in which first-wave feminists in England gave men who didn't volunteer to fight in World War One white feathers in order to imply that the men were cowards. Of course, that relies on the idea that feminism has not really changed in the century since then.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA

Pththya-lyi posted:

These dudes usually seem to bring up the White Feather movement, in which first-wave feminists in England gave men who didn't volunteer to fight in World War One white feathers in order to imply that the men were cowards. Of course, that relies on the idea that feminism has not really changed in the century since then.
"especially by far-right nationalists and early feminists"

Haha. Yeah. Things have changed a bit since then. Like how women in the U.S. could not even vote when that was apparently the popular thing to do (in England granted). How do you argue against someone who will literally grasp at a 100-year-old straw just to drink a glass of Spite?

The last time feminists and the far right teamed up in the U.S. we got attempted pornography bans in the early 1980s, and we see what a great idea that alliance was.

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
ya but the one before where they banned alcohol was pretty productive, got a lot of good movies and books and whole genres out of that

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loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Does the current thing where you're not supposed to have sexy women in media count as a collaboration between feminists and the far right?

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