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Foo Diddley posted:
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The Titanic posted:Thank you gents. It's not a big deal, just looks a bit strange 
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Nov 15, 2016 09:13
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STOP COMPARING FINISHED GAMES TO STAR CITIZEN! I'M COMPARING FINISHED GAMES TO STAR CITIZEN! 
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Nov 15, 2016 09:14
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In the last 500 years, the Fourth Trumppire has dominated four systems, which it has united into one starzone, Trumpsis. The Fourth Trumppire has origins from the Ten Empire War in which 10 of the United Trumppires revolted against each rules. All empires except for the fourth swore freedom upon their citizens. There is no free speech in the Fourth Trumppire, and all self-controlled transportation has been made illegal without undergoing painful medical verification methods, in which arteries are severed without pain resistant, operated entirely by machines. The way they work claim to be the most hygenic and healthy way possible, but these machines often rub against pain points, causing great deals of pain to patients. The heart is then extracted from the body and placed into a glass grinding machine. Various energy centers are also dissected and replaced with dangerous transplants. After the painful, 52 hour surgical procedure, patients will then have to use a fused guidance tool, which pumps painful resistors into the body every 2 hours. The pain they have caused is so bad, the victim would freeze in a tense position. They would then collapse afterwards. Sexual Trumpulation in any way within the grounds of the Fourth Trumppire is strictly prohibited, and anyone detected even touching their sexual organs will be subjected to a penectomy or if the offender was a female, they would then have a razor inserted into their ovaries. They would pump a blue solution into the womb until the stitchings burst. Offenders would also be forced to show their operated areas in public, and they would always harass and punch them to a pulp, against their will. Otherwise, offenders would be tazed with the worst type of electricity in the systematic district, causing so much pain, the victim would scream and flail in madness. The pain would also triple every second, but no death would be incurred. This is also used in combat against enemy units, which is why all UEE forces must wear the upgraded suit to block this effect. However, enertainment is also questionable in UEE grounds. Sporting events end with the losing team being rounded into a grinder and shredded on live television, boxing matches end with the loser having their hands removed without anasthesia, flight races would end with the losers having their arms and legs removed, then being injected with insanity, for entertainment. People are also forced into these events, by undergoing a painful 127 hour procedure which involves tweaking the muscles so they will not listen to brain commands, and then having a painful drug injected which also causes madness if the player is not sporting. This is all for entertainment, and anyone not watching any of it during sporting times and cheering for the winning team, they will be imprisoned into galactic camps. Snuff films are also broadcast, and actors are actually murdered just for entertainment. Stealth droids also guide these forced actors into behaving exactly as the director dreams, otherwise they will be punished by being placed into a macerator and having their execution written into the film. Any film that does not feature someone being murdered will be burned and the entire crew behind it will be executed in the most grotesque way possible - vivisection. All executions are broadcast, and anyone who misses even a millisecond, even by blinking, will be executed. All citizens must boo to the person being executed, and the family is gathered to be injected with eternators, which cause pain forever, making them immoral but feeling the pain tenfold every millisecond. They cannot pass out, but they will feel like it forever. Conquests by this Trumppire end in the planet being razed, and all the citizens being executed in the same way as their citizens are. The planet is then destroyed and all remnants of it are removed, and any memories of it will be erased instantly from civil minds. People who are also killed are also erased from memories, and all memories of them, including toys and pictures, are destroyed. Prisoners undergo 40,000 years of relentless and endless labor, and anyone not complying is sentenced to the eternator injection. All prisoners injected with eternators are placed into capsules and launched into far space, then the room is closed tight to ensure maximum insanity. Some prisoners are also subjected to the removal of blood, the lungs, the liver, the genitals, the skeleton, the muscles, the eyes, and even the injection of pressure. Prisoners sentenced to pressure chambers are locked in until they are inflated to a high level. The decompression is then stopped to make sure they are inflated and uncomfortable. Children born on the 14th of July are subjected to the removal of their skeleton and an implant of a silver liquid to replace it. The nervous sysem is also injected in various parts to ensure it is five times more sensitive than the average. Restaurants also are ordered to serve civil meat, and anyone attending must give themself up to be cooked into a grotesque meal. They are cooked alive, undergoing extreme pain, and are then subjected to industrial grinders and blenders. The Trumppire orders at least 1 million citizens to be dispatched every day, as they are afraid the population may overthrow them. But only one planet is cared for, and the rest are banned from eating, drinking, talking, using technology, touching anyone, wearing unauthorized clothes, touching buildings, or walking a centimeter out of designated routes. Civil enforcers are on every planet, and they are engineered so that they are 40 times larger than the 300 quadrillion population. At least 7 billion die every 12 hours under this rule. Thoughts are also surveyed, and anyone who does not think anything to loving the Trumppire with more than their capabilities will be sentenced to a prison. Prisoners who are punished for this violation will meet their greatest fear, only to have it amplified so they will turn insane as they imagine it exactly as they fear it. They then undergo a painful extraction of all fluids, to be replaced by a toxin which causes permanent irritation. The unknown substance keeps the subject aging normally, except they will never die. Prisoners punished in this way are unable to be reverted, despite many efforts, and they will never be able to be disposed. The sickening truths have been revealed only today, and invigilation teams are still investigating the truths without setting foot in the galactic space of this sickening empire.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:15
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If we could make Smash Mouth eat the eggs, we can make Smart eat the pizza
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Nov 15, 2016 09:16
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Foo Diddley posted:
Someone should send her a PM to say that if she ever does get banned for dissent on the official forums she's welcome to join us here in the underworld.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:16
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"At this point CIG seems to be the pudgy guy who decides he wants to run a triathlon. He buys all the best equipment, pays for the elite gym membership, but never bothers to starting training and eating right. The day of the race comes along and he can't even complete the first mile. I can barely comprehend the sheer scale of the screw up such that CIG has been unable to get an FPS module working in an FPS engine" https://forums.robertsspaceindustries.com/discussion/comment/7237556/#Comment_7237556
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Nov 15, 2016 09:18
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Foo Diddley posted:
How many items do you need to make a proper list, anyway? And remember, this is CIG so that tired old “1, 2, 3” thing is just so beneath them.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:18
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History Comes Inside! posted:Escape Velocity is legit good space games. I remember getting a copy of EV:Nova when I was a kid and losing a whole summer to that repetitive broken bullshit. I think the first EV is my favorite, but Nova has some good things in it.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:20
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Chalks posted:Someone should send her a PM to say that if she ever does get banned for dissent on the official forums she's welcome to join us here in the underworld. Go for it, if you want to end up on a list
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Nov 15, 2016 09:21
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Foo Diddley posted:Go for it, if you want to end up on a list I've literally already been banned for sending comforting PMs to upset backers. 
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Nov 15, 2016 09:23
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Chalks posted:Someone should send her a PM to say that if she ever does get banned for dissent on the official forums she's welcome to join us here in the underworld. __nMn___=>^.^<=___nMn__ ******KITTYPOUNCE!****** Gonna say for the record I love SC and have total faith in it. So I probably wouldn't do very well here Just looking for more info is all.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:25
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Deloria posted:__nMn___=>^.^<=___nMn__ The first half of your post is bad. The second half is acceptable. What info are you looking for, you special snowflake you?
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Nov 15, 2016 09:30
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But why total faith? All metrics are pointing to unmitigated development hell. And let's be honest, CIG is not a very structured organization. Even if they could get an amazing project manager, from oh say, Blizzard, someone that worked on WoW or something, even they would have a hard time implementing change with Chris needing the final say on almost every aspect of the project. Raskolnikov fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Nov 15, 2016 09:31
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Deloria posted:__nMn___=>^.^<=___nMn__ hey, welcome to the land of dissenters.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:33
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Deloria posted:__nMn___=>^.^<=___nMn__ welcome please pledge allegiance to Lord Smart
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Nov 15, 2016 09:36
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Tippis posted:How many items do you need to make a proper list, anyway? And remember, this is CIG so that tired old “1, 2, 3” thing is just so beneath them. Well currently their lists can only support ~16 items before crashing, and half of the entries in the enemies list are "Derek Smart". But with List 2.0 right around the corner, the sky's the limit
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Nov 15, 2016 09:36
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Raskolnikov posted:But why total faith? All metrics are pointing to unmitigated development hell. Total faith because Crobberts broke the Pledge, lied to backers, throws his coworkers under a bus, cant deliver a product on time, broke the engine he's using, and spends other people's money is foolish ways without oversight.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:36
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Nov 15, 2016 09:39
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Deloria posted:__nMn___=>^.^<=___nMn__ Not sure what we can tell you that isn't already fairly well known, and without coming across as hyper-aggressive about it towards you as a backer. If I were you I would wind back how much money you have in this thing at very least, but I still feel like the most important thing you can do is: 
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Nov 15, 2016 09:40
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I second what Raskolnikov asked. Why total faith? And surely you being one of the dissenting/worrying voices in that thread would imply less than total faith in the project? What have you seen that makes you so sure everything is fine and on track? How do the constant delays and lack of real information affect your opinion?
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Nov 15, 2016 09:40
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Maw posted:I second what Raskolnikov asked. Why total faith? And surely you being one of the dissenting/worrying voices in that thread would imply less than total faith in the project? Just wait till they get the Spectrum up and running, it'll open the floodgates of
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Nov 15, 2016 09:44
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Nov 15, 2016 09:45
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Raskolnikov posted:But why total faith? All metrics are pointing to unmitigated development hell. I'm gonna answer this question as seriously as I can. I think CIG have some amazing talent. I think Chris Roberts is a visionary. I think that he and a lot of people in his organisation are absolutely commited to their cause. I think they have a lot of very powerful tools and technology in the bag now to help make it happen. I think that technology in the past 4 years needed to come towards his ideas a bit - and maybe still does: A lot of what he originally intended wasn't possible on average gaming hardware 4 years ago.. The world had to come to him. I think *If* he can break the *very serious* showstoppers he can achieve anything. I have no doubt his very best people are working on exactly that. It must be hugely frustrating for them that they haven't yet done it. Lastly - and I don't know if this sort of sentiment is a bannable offence around here but.... "The reasonable person conforms to the world.. The unreasonable person expects the world to conform to them. All progress is driven by unreasonable people." Chris Roberts was never afraid of being completey unreasonable. He doesn't flinch from his vision. That's why he inspired so many people to take the ride with him - and frankly I believe we need more people like that. I don't give him a free pass as a business manager - I think the forum poll clearly shows that. I think he has explaining to do. But I didn't give up on him yet.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:45
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Maw posted:I second what Raskolnikov asked. Why total faith? And surely you being one of the dissenting/worrying voices in that thread would imply less than total faith in the project? hmmm i think it might be all those various logical fallacies mixed in with hero worship, blind faith and autism that we've been diagnosing all backers with for 6000 pages on the internet but hey new cig enthusiast hope you stick around for the next few hundred posts while we confirm this at great length
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Nov 15, 2016 09:46
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Deloria posted:__nMn___=>^.^<=___nMn__ Smart please ban this sick filth.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:46
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Deloria posted:__nMn___=>^.^<=___nMn__ Hi and welcome to the forum! Please don't take anything anybody says here too seriously, since this a is bizarre comedy thread in a weird subforum on a dead comedy forum. Be prepared for everyone to ask you questions that force you to defend your investment in spaceships and there's quite a bit of 'ironic' posting that'll take some work to deal with. Please enjoy your stay. [[Don't scare this one off you idiots]]
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Nov 15, 2016 09:47
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Deloria posted:I'm gonna answer this question as seriously as I can. Look at ship art from the first Wing Commander games, then look at SC ships, it's all the same. Roberts haven't had an original thought in his head since 1990. Also welcome to SA or something, I actually hope goons don't scare you away.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:49
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Marching Powder posted:hmmm i think it might be all those various logical fallacies mixed in with hero worship, blind faith and autism that we've been diagnosing all backers with for 6000 pages on the internet but hey new cig enthusiast hope you stick around for the next few hundred posts while we confirm this at great length I just like to be sure, friend.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:52
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Deloria posted:I'm gonna answer this question as seriously as I can. I think if you have a favorable reading of Chris (I don't but I'll grant you that) this is a reasonable position to take. The problem I think though is that really, Chris shouldn't be allowed to work so closely with the product; he's actively interfering with his own vision at this point. Some business-type or design lead needs to be the go-between that keeps Chris away from the run-and-ruck programming team because redoing the same jacket six times isn't reasonable while the engine or the network is so broken. Like, attention to detail is fine, even commendable, but there has to be a list of priorities and a lot of our regular game designer posters have pointed out how strange it is and how much Chris meddles compared to similar-level designers.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:52
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Deloria posted:I'm gonna answer this question as seriously as I can. I'm going to be very very very reasonable here. CIG has a lot of talent, but no producers / manager / PM's capable of making head / tail on what they're doing. CR is a visionary, but without restraint he's missed the train, and it's gone now. CoD:IW, ME:A and Elite are the spacegames people will talk about from here on out. Initially back in 2012, I backed him and Braben because I wanted spacegames. Braben delivered and CR to date, is 2 years late.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:54
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Raskolnikov posted:But why total faith? All metrics are pointing to unmitigated development hell. 
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Nov 15, 2016 09:55
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I took one look at Chris Roberts' history and concluded he was a guy who managed to get lucky with a few hits and then proceeded to run every project he's been in control of since straight into the ground. Including the game that was supposed to be his previous great work, Freelancer, which was literally rescued from the garbage fire by the same publisher that its fans have been poo poo-talking for over a decade now. So even when goons were optimistic about SC and trying to convince other goons to buy in, myself among the latter, I was incredibly doubtful. These doubts have long since given way to amusement and schadenfreude.
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Nov 15, 2016 09:57
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Coincidentally, does anyone know who is playing with the site CSS and when we can expect them to stop?
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Nov 15, 2016 09:59
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Mendrian posted:Hi and welcome to the forum! Thanks for the welcome - but in fairness I was first here 3 years ago. I was banned after 3 posts.. for doing stuff like signing my post and giving group hugs. I only really came back in here to say hi - and because my name was mentioned - and I guess to maybe stick a flag in the sand for the backers that didn't quit yet. I understand there are a lot of people here that backed and refunded - but maybe some that didnt do that yet. I'm not going to - no matter what. If I lose my cash I lose it: It was the risk and worth taking. When CIG does succeed you guys will be very welcome to fly round in my ships.
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Nov 15, 2016 10:00
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2.6 with Star Marine must be close. Only 5 bugs reported in last 24 hours with 2.5
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Nov 15, 2016 10:01
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Deloria posted:Thanks for the welcome - but in fairness I was first here 3 years ago. I was banned after 3 posts.. for doing stuff like signing my post and giving group hugs. I'm gonna stop you right there and say crowdfunding is bullshit and anything that doesn't promise real ROI for a financial product should have anything approaching "risk" Either CIG delivers a software product or they refund all the money they've received if they bust even if it means bankrupting Roberts himself (again). And if they can't afford to refund everyone? Well, that's for the courts and CIG to figure out. Those stupid loving $2,000 lamps and Stanley grocery store doors could pay back a few nerds surely. Justin Tyme fucked around with this message at 10:06 on Nov 15, 2016 |
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Nov 15, 2016 10:03
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Deloria posted:I'm gonna answer this question as seriously as I can. Marching Powder posted:hmmm i think it might be all those various logical fallacies mixed in with hero worship, blind faith and autism that we've been diagnosing all backers with for 6000 pages on the internet but hey new cig enthusiast hope you stick around for the next few hundred posts while we confirm this at great length loving nailed it
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Nov 15, 2016 10:05
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Deloria posted:Thanks for the welcome - but in fairness I was first here 3 years ago. I was banned after 3 posts.. for doing stuff like signing my post and giving group hugs. To be fair the Star Citizen thread was in the wrong forum at the time, it was in the games forum.
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no_recall posted:I'm going to be very very very reasonable here. I think you have a valid point about PMs: Maybe the project would have done better if Chris had delegated more to experienced project managers. It was a bit disheartening to see the senior people leave one after the other and I think it might be a sign he doesnt delegate well. CR himself said back in 2013 that if he didnt get the game out within a year or two he would lose the momentum... and now we see lots of space games so the question will always be if CIG can deliver something groundbreaking in an increasingly saturated spacesim market. Maybe thats why the increasing emphasis on SQ42 happened. Elite is already a space mmo, and arguably CoDIW is kind of where CIG should be after 4 years if the game development had progressed as everybody expected. But actually I think this is a positive thing: It will push him to deliver the game as an winner-takes-all-or-nothing. the reason I made the poll however is because before he takes that gamble he should really be communicating to his backers about the stakes of it. Its the communication part I have a problem with.
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