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SomethingJones posted:Nobody has ever said, not even once on this forum, that this was the intention from the beginning. he's responded to my post which had nothing to do about it being a scam from the beginning. trying to make a point when there's none to be made so he can give himself a win. if he expands on any of the points he's been posting about (substantial gameplay and open development) he'll realize it's an argument he cannot win. he's using the same points CIG customer service is using to deny refunds, which we all know is not working. lmao.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Lazrin, how do you know the inner workings of government- or consumer-based agencies?
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It still amazes me how CIG can declare backer money as revenue earned when there is no product 
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Tippis posted:So what you think about Star Citizen? Don't forget Daedalic and a Long Journey Home. The game is supposed to play like Star Control II and Star Flight, just with modern graphics. Basically one more space sim for the pile of games that are not Star Citizen and will be out long before Star Citizen shudders into release, Duke-Nukem-Forever-Style. Also sorry for posting across the void of time, but I've been failing to keep up with this thread for a week now and today I just gave up.
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Jul 24, 2016 16:35
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Did anyone tell lowtax about how Lazrin scammed him out of $10?
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Libluini posted:Don't forget Daedalic and a Long Journey Home. The game is supposed to play like Star Control II and Star Flight, just with modern graphics. Basically one more space sim for the pile of games that are not Star Citizen and will be out long before Star Citizen shudders into release, Duke-Nukem-Forever-Style. 
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no_recall posted:It still amazes me how CIG can declare backer money as revenue earned when there is no product you sure? cig will provide tracking numbers for their released products and prove that you received it. (not a scam).
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Lazrin posted:
quote 'suck my oval office'
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Jul 24, 2016 16:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-WWhYL1GXk&t=17s
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Star Citizen's planet size compared:
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Jul 24, 2016 16:40
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Today, I suddenly had 'The Refund' stuck in my head. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDnNF5cHCdo
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Jul 24, 2016 16:43
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Mr Fronts posted:Do I have the monthly patch schedule right? You got it. Thanks to their refined patch schedule with content locking they are exceeding all of our expectations.
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Mr Fronts posted:Do I have the monthly patch schedule right? Oh come on! I don't think anyone can deny that the scope of the patches has vastly increased since that schedule was put out there. That was back when each patch was just going to have 1 new outfit or a minor door-related bug fix. Besides the community voted overwhelmingly for the longer gaps between patches to allow them to fully absorb everything that is on display and fully playtest each build.
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Turd Burglar posted:someone post the list of features promised in star citizen vs what has actually been fulfilled so lazrin can stfu about a substantial part of the game being released. Promised: NPC Generation Docking and Undocking Tech Realistic Audio Options Personally Owned NPCs Farming Procedural Tech Tri-Monitor Support Hangar and Planet Side Module Your Name in the Game Carriers Getting Everyone into the Same Instance Lowering Your Wanted Level More Economical or Versatile Corvettes Planetary Ship Entry Repair and Items System Capability Lowering Your Wanted Level Manned Turrets Character Customization Ship connected to User Online/Offline Status Picking Up Objects On Planets Multi-Monitor HUD Large Ship Damage Control Lockers Dogfights Through Space Stations Ship Persistence Stealth Game Play Ability for Privateers/Corsairs/Buccaneers Landing on Planets Procedurally-Generated Environments Starfarer's Refueling Mechanic Additional Star Systems Rigging Anchoring to an Asteroid Kill Boards NPC ranks Thruster Trails Non-Leathal Combat Modules Raid Supply Shipments Owning an Alien Ship Hidden Ship Compartments Catapulting Through Space Locking Ships Jury Rig Repairing Dynamic Weather Starting in the Stanton System Automatic Battle Flight Pattern Living Spaces Insurance for Pilots Future Mining Escape Pods Functionality in Alpha 2.0 Personal Armor (FPS) Extreme Ship Maneuvers Your Inventory When The PU Goes Live. Start up Sequence for Large Multi-Crew Ships Voice Commands Remotely Hacking Ships Pacing NPC's Incentives to keep your orginal Ship's Hull Game Generated Missions Communication Between Two Ships Ship Armor Controlled and Uncontrolled Space NPC Crews Guild Wars Trading in Star Citizen Inflation and Deflation Hiring NPC's for missions Travelling in Fleets Tactical Game modes in FPS Trading weapon in the FPS Bounty Hunting Player Generated Content Loaner Multicrew Ships Alien Language Transiting Between Systems Road to Developing Star Systems Assigning Ships to Landing Zones UI Customization Radar features Future Playable Maps Ships Developed by the Community Multicrew Ship Tech Warning NPC's of Attack NPC crew AI Clothing Damage Character Creator Interior Damage System Roaming Floating Structures Ship Parking in the PU Currency Usage Hiring Programmers Vehicles for Planetside NPC dialogue Electronic Warfare in the PU Player Owned Cargo Space NPC population in the PU Salvaging in the 'Verse Ships in my Hangar aging? A Linux client? In game Banking VR in the 'Verse Medic and Surgeon Skill progression Mining and resource gathering Fabricate weapons/armor/ship parts FPS Armor Types NPC control in FPS Join in-progress free flight games. Hangar parties & instancing. Heavy personal armor. Physical grappling beam. Multicrew keycards. Repairing Gold Horizon Space Stations Taxation Natural areas in the 'Verse FPS environmental hazards Store ore in your hangar Organic ships Ship spoofing Non-combat ships relevancy Search players for weapons Flying a ship without a hud Starting wars between the different races. Using tractor beams defensively. Flying while docked to another ship. NPCs reaction to weapons. Drop pods for soldiers. Flying ships while limbs are damaged. Using characters as crewmen. Bounty Hunters and known associates. Org recruiting NPCs. NPCs using different loadouts. Resources respawn in the PU. NPC & Human scanning. Delivered  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8zvNOe5n04
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darkarchon posted:Quoting with the full translated article for clarity: Thanks for this.
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SomethingJones posted:Promised: lmao good stuff commando
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SomethingJones posted:Promised: Goon. They are making progress.
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Mr Fronts posted:Do I have the monthly patch schedule right? 2.4 : April 2016 2.5 : May 2017 2.6 : June 2018 2.7 : July 2019 Fixed the release dates for you...
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Lazrin posted:consumer agencies and law enforcement are not going to look at details like mining, ai, or what have you. 2016--who cares about MetaCritic?! The big question--will there be enough to show so no one goes to jail! Who doesn't love open development?
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SomethingJones posted:Nobody has ever said, not even once on this forum, that this was the intention from the beginning. Now now, hold on a second. I'd like to believe, in my wildest dreams, that it's at least plausible that at least one person set out at the beginning with the intention to run this as a scam. But no, they probably thought they could actually do it at first. Some of them might actually still think they can do it. Bewildering.
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CubicalSucrose posted:Now now, hold on a second. I'd like to believe, in my wildest dreams, that it's at least plausible that at least one person set out at the beginning with the intention to run this as a scam. probably sandi she's been a lying piece of poo poo since cig was founded. CR probably told her he can get this funded with a few million and she threw herself at it to fleece nerds out of their disability money.
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Turd Burglar posted:she's been a lying piece of poo poo since cig was founded Yeah but I'm sure she was fine before that
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I think spending customers money on sliding doors and spaceship wall wrap instead of making a game like you promised them means you should go to jail.
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Jul 24, 2016 17:09
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nevermind all the cocaine
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Jul 24, 2016 17:10
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Trying to kill off love rivals with donuts could be considered attempted murder
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Jul 24, 2016 17:11
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If you lie to a district attorney to defend your companies earnings you are probably complicit in a scam
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Jul 24, 2016 17:12
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I wish Lazrin would get sent to jail too
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I can imagine any court case involving CIG would Start with the judge saying "Mr Roberts, is this man your lawyer? He looks like a sharkperson! YOU'RE GUILTY, TRIAL ENDS NOW. LIFE SENTENCES FOR ALL. Including you, Sharky Freywhatevs your name is."
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https://twitter.com/nickmon1112/status/757226770437373952
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Wrecked Angle posted:I wish Lazrin would get sent to jail too Or the hospital. He is morbidly obtuse after all
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Wrecked Angle posted:I think spending customers money on sliding doors and spaceship wall wrap instead of making a game like you promised them means you should go to jail. Wrecked Angle posted:nevermind all the cocaine Wrecked Angle posted:Trying to kill off love rivals with donuts could be considered attempted murder Wrecked Angle posted:If you lie to a district attorney to defend your companies earnings you are probably complicit in a scam Wrecked Angle posted:I wish Lazrin would get sent to jail too Wrecked Angle posted:But I guess being wrong isn't acrime This guy gets it
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Xaerael posted:I can imagine any court case involving CIG would Start with the judge saying "Mr Roberts, is this man your lawyer? He looks like a sharkperson! YOU'RE GUILTY, TRIAL ENDS NOW. LIFE SENTENCES FOR ALL. Including you, Sharky Freywhatevs your name is." Frothingmouth
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I thought that maybe Lazrin's sudden silence was due to him being banned, but I just checked and he's still not banned, so we have more of his fecal expulsions to look forward to THANKS DERPIT SCHMURP.
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Xaerael posted:I thought that maybe Lazrin's sudden silence was due to him being banned, but I just checked and he's still not banned, so we have more of his fecal expulsions to look forward to THANKS DERPIT SCHMURP. Maybe he just can't respond to stuff that critically examines his responses in a way where he can't just handwave it and claim Derek had something to do with it?
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The dynamics spawned by German magazine piece are interesting, Citizens are excited at some level because they believe CIG wouldn't lie to a magazine. While at the same time the CIG media shows are changing because it's obvious that lying directly to the backers is no longer as effective as it was. All this is good for Star Citizen entertainment because without it moma wouldn't come into the thread all  , as if something of significance had actually happened.
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fluff pieces about star citizen backfire hard months down the road, eg. star marine being a cod killer. i cant wait until we start referencing the article to say, "this is what cig said, what happened? lol"
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i like how in the german article chris explains they need more money because of his own scope creep. and also criticizing elite dangerous for making their game the wrong way compared to star citizen. what a gently caress head.
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