Moogle posted:

If we're talking demographics I picture the perfect Star Citizen Investor as an overweight furry with generalized anxiety and/or depression who makes a healthy income in IT middle management and is in the midst of a mid-life crisis.

That's not a professional threat assessment, though.

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

man someone posted a picture of erriss or whatever wearing a bowtie and a fez cap somewhere in the past 10 pages and that got me irrationally mad...

fuctifino posted:

Yeah, you can watch it here http://www.twitch.tv/cigcommunity/v/35616376

A Neurotic Jew posted:

that RtV mentioned a "summit" for the various CIG studios next week, which is when EightAces said Roberts was holding a big meeting about how to handle the fact that they have no product for the upcoming year. Can't wait to see cynical misinformation campaign 2.0

A Neurotic Jew posted:

Mirificus posted:

It's always weird when Star Citizens compete over how much they've suffered at the hands of CIG.

Toops posted:

Ok here's a serious question. How the are they making even 75k a day? Let's do some math.



Remember, this is 75k a day which is a dangerously low income level for CIG (2.25 M per month, not counting taxes, so more like 1.7M per month @~28% corp tax)

I'll let you guys draw your own conclusions, but any way I chop these numbers, I catch a real bad smell. I just don't see how any of these options are sustainable.

Eonwe posted:

I'm going to Vegas in a couple weeks

Suggest things for me to do

EightAce posted:

from the Imperium forum:

Gilganixon posted:

this thread has made me realise that I really enjoy Elite: Dangerous which is a game featuring spaceship that you can see out of

Also the game exists and is playable.

I was considering buying SC just so I could laugh at it but then I realised ED: Horizons also exists, costs less and is less of a waste of cash.

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

why do people think that Erin Roberts is some magical savior manager who would actually produce a good game but that his mean old brother is holding him back?

quote:

"Hot new computer game maker ION Storm appears to have all it needs for success -- top talent, plenty of money, and legions of anxious fans. So why is its future so cloudy?
By Christine Biederman

Now is the moment to do or die. Again. It's come about pretty quickly. Only minutes have passed since an odd time-travel device, a magical samurai sword, deposited you here in the sixth century. Looking around, you noticed it was snowing lightly, and from the looks of it, a storm was blowing in.

In front of you loomed an ominous medieval castle. Eager to commence your quest--to revise history by capturing the elusive daikatana, the saber you are chasing through 3,600 years--you hurried inside. The castle responded by hurling vermin, fantastic creatures, and deadly germs at you. In short order you've shaken a gang of bats, dispatched a nasty pair of werewolves with your crossbow, and beaten a hostile archer to the punch with a few well-aimed arrows. Then came the pack of squealing, plague-carrying rats leaping for your face. Since you know there are times to fight and times to turn tail, you've just slipped through a secret passage and down an elevator. (An elevator? You're rewriting history already.)

Now you're back outside, and there he is--a plague-infected half-man, half-zombie. And then another. And a third.

This doesn't look promising. Over one side is a drop that looks to be several thousand feet, and in front of you, Black Death. Where are your fellow time travelers, Mikiko and Superfly? Aren't you supposed to be able to page them somehow, to get you out of a fix like this? And where's the damned daikatana--literally, the "big sword," the magical eight-in-one weapon?

Oh, well, black-magic time. Pointing your staff at the three zombies, you draw a circle, then a pentagon, and the gates of Hell fly open, and...next thing you know, the menacing undead explode into a few dozen flying, bloody chunks.

"More gibs for your money," laughs a voice from across the centuries. "That's gibs, as in giblets."

And with that, you're back in the late-20th-century offices of computer game developer ION Storm, located high atop a downtown Dallas skyscraper. It is December 17, 1998--less than three months before the scheduled release date for Daikatana, the computer game that Mr. Giblets, ION Storm producer Kelly Hoerner, has just been demonstrating. It's the game that a tribe of computer gamers is dying to get their trigger fingers on.

It's also the game that could make or break ION Storm..."

quote:

It was a time of giddy optimism.

quote:

the place where the "designer's vision is king" has turned into a toxic mix of prima donnas and personality cults

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The company has run through $26 million and is spending at a rate of nearly $900,000 per month. Every month the number of copies of Daikatana it needs to sell goes up.

quote:

[Tell Wilson], 'You better be loving glad we wrote off your car and house, you loving rat-faced bitch,'

quote:

"Game developers are a special breed," he explains. "They're very loyal, and all you have to do is treat them with a minimal amount of respect, and they'll stay with you forever. But if you don't, these guys have talents, and they're going to go off. You can poo poo on them only so many times."

quote:

"According to seven of the 10 who were at lunch, the Daikatana team was seriously disenchanted."

quote:

"VERY VERY VERY concerned about Daikatana not shipping on time (as well as the other titles)...VERY VERY VERY concerned about people leaving Daikatana--though I tried to assure them that most of [those] who left were poo poo anyway...VERY concerned that John's heart is not in Daikatana...VERY VERY VERY concerned about the AI in Daikatana and that there is a TREMENDOUS amount left to do.".

quote:

"In other words, for ION Storm to reach that mark and survive the dilemma it has created for itself, the company may need all the magic that Romero and pals can muster. It may need a real daikatana."

Scruffpuff posted:

So the backpedaling in today's 10FTC begins at 6:00 PM EST right?

Happy Sisyphus posted:

from the 2.1.1 live feedback post on reddit



How low were this dude's expectations to begin with?

fuzzknot posted:

Space flowers? Space car jacking? WTF.

trucutru posted:

So, this is the first time I watch 10 for the chairman. Are you basically telling me that every freaking week Croberts gets in from of the camera and adds* months of extra promises to the content he is supposed to deliver? Holy poo poo!

*with the exception of star marine, which was only a side-project that they were making while they managed to put everything together and now that everything is together there is no need for it.

quote:

"AS FAR AS THE FPS IS CONCERNED, WHAT GAMES HAVE YOU DRAWN ON FOR INSPIRATION? WOULD YOU DESCRIBE THE STAR MARINE MODULE AS HAVING A FAMILIAR FEEL OR FLAVOR? HOW WILL THAT PORTION OF THE GAME DIFFER FROM OTHER TYPES OF FPS EXPERIENCES?

CHRIS ROBERTS:"It depends, for me, I play a fair amount of FPS, I’m not a crazy FPS die-hard, COD, BF (which is my favourite because I value the idea of teamwork, like multiple people manning vehicles etc) which you can kindof see in the way we’re going with multi-crewed ships etc. I like that aspect of FPS gameplay, I liked FC4 and FC3, but I don’t want the FPS to be specifically too much like all the other ones, we have different respawn mechanics, I do think COD doesn’t feel as organic as I’d like, I’d say that FC and BF do it better for me. Arma 3 is interesting in that it’s more realism based, we’re trending towards that. We’re taking elements from all of them and going for more a slightly slower paced game, you don’t respawn instantly, if you get shot your friend might drag you back and heal you with a stimpak etc. The combat itself is potentially more lethal, it might be that you die and then you’re out for that session. I think we’ll have the battlefield feel of how your weapons and movement work, but with an influence from say rainbow 6 and arma in realism, but not too far, just an idea where we have trade-offs, like people might not want a helmet/view restrictions, so they can wear less armour, but while you might see more or move faster you’re more susceptible to damage etc. You might get out of breath quicker in heavy armour etc, all of these things will be resource management while you fight, which differs ours from some of the faster FPS’s like COD, Halo or destiny (although destiny has good weapon management). So we just need to balance it between realism and sci-fi fun, somewhere between battlefields/destinies to arma style with some extra elements like zero-g stuff and varied weapons."

Mirificus posted:

I wonder when/if they realized they have a trademark issue. Although even without that issue, their technical incompetence would probably have torpedoed the module anyways.

Junk Puncher posted:

Anyway, I read "scoop creep" and now envision that being a thing CR has a problem with.

B_of_InfoRedux posted:

Because ultimately, you're right - and I'm wrong (not sarcasm). Sorry for falling into the defensive trap when I should have known better.

quote:

Sabotage

I can't stand it I know you planned it
I'm gonna set it straight, this watergate
I can't stand rocking when I'm in here
Because your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear
So while you sit back and wonder why
I got this loving thorn in my side
Oh my God, it's a mirage
I'm tellin' y'all it's sabotage

So listen up 'cause you can't say nothin'
You'll shut me down with a push of your button?
But yo I'm out and I'm gone
I'll tell you now I keep it on and on

'Cause what you see you might not get
And we can bet so don't you get souped yet
You're scheming on a thing that's a mirage
I'm trying to tell you now it's sabotage

Why; our backs are now against the wall
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage
Listen all of y'all it's a sabotage

I can't stand it, I know you planned it
But I'm gonna set it straight this watergate
But I can't stand rockin' when I'm in this place
Because I feel disgrace because you're all in my face
But make no mistakes and switch up my channel
I'm buddy rich when I fly off the handle
What could it be, it's a mirage
You're scheming on a thing - that's sabotage!

trucutru posted:

Those are really good lyrics. But I would like them to be more CIG-centric. Bold italics would also help.

D_Smart posted:

If you are wondering why no feature updates to the Star Citizen PU, it's because they are focusing on SQ42 & putting it in maintenance mode.

My guess is that unless and until SQ42 comes out - in 2017 unless they cut & rush it out in 2016 - the PU will remain stagnant

Booblord Zagats posted:

Yeah, it's a version of an X-52 with a bunch of plastic poo poo glued on to it

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

is that poo poo for real?

Hillary Clintons Thong posted:

oh, what I meant was, did they render that joystick in the game because that would be hilarious.

I realize probably not, but Star Citizen so I never can tell

quote:

"Chris Roberts' Star Citizen, the spiritual successor to the Wing Commander series and unprecedented crowdfunding success, has encountered serious technical and gameplay issues that will indefinitely delay one of the game's key modules, a first-person shooter called Star Marine."

quote:

"What is happening? The weekly updates from the team will give you a better idea, but the short story is that Star Marine was not ready for launch when we had hoped (and planned.) We spent several weeks expecting that resolving a then-current crop of blockers would allow a PTU publish. When this didn’t happen, we conducted a full review of the module lead by our top technical folks from around the company. What they determined was what you read in Chris’ letter two weeks ago: we need to rebuild several ‘boring’ backend pieces and we need to fix serious animation issues before there would be any benefit to a release.

It would not be my place to give you a timetable, but with the number of people I’m seeing who genuinely believe that we somehow now aren’t doing the FPS module I will say that we are talking about a delay of weeks and not months/years/decades."

Derek Smart posted:

"The RSI devs have all the same insurmountable problems that I have encountered over two decades of chasing this whale, and which have not only led to their delays, but also the recent announcement that the first person module was on hold came as no surprise to me.

I have it on good authority that it’s not even on hold, but that they’re probably not going to finish it both because it won’t work within the current framework and it wasn’t in the original design as spec’ed, since it has ballooned to what it is today. So naturally, it’s the first thing to go, or put on indefinite hold while they figure things out.

Remember: the game, first and foremost, is a space combat game, not a first person combat game.

At least you will still have your hangar (which is completely and 100 percent detached from the game framework, by the way), in which you can still walk around in first person mode to look at your ships. And Arena Commander.

Why wasn’t I surprised that they’ve started cutting things out, starting with this? Well, because after spending over two decades making a game like this, you pretty much know what to expect.

Right from the start in 2012 when they said that they were using CryEngine3 as their baseline, I was skeptical. But if they kept the scope, and scene sizes manageable, I felt that it was totally doable.

Once the feature creep and increased scope started to unfold, I knew they were in trouble."

Chris Roberts posted:

"Just to show you basically its not cancelled, that its in development, it exists... We're hoping to have that to you guys before CitizenCon."

quote:

"Meanwhile, work on Star Marine proper continues. Some of the deeper features are taking a back seat this week we roll out the basic movement and gunplay that will be available to all players on the Crusader map. This allows us to focus our attention on making the time players are outside their ships a good experience. What’s not included in Star Citizen Alpha 2.0? Game systems such as the score screen and Star Marine lobby UI, as well as some gameplay engineering and design work that is needed for Headquarters game mode. Have no fear, though, for Star Marine will return and your appetite for first person combat will be whetted by the action on Bravo station in the Crusader map. We will continue developing features and gameplay modes that are ultimately for use within Star Citizen, and we will continue to use Arena Commander and the Star Marine modes as a test bed for them. For now, and into the future, the FPS experience will be an integral part of Star Citizen Alpha, and we can’t be more happy about that!"

Chris Roberts posted:

"So yes it is still in the pipeline. I do actually kind of like to say something because I sort of get annoyed sometimes when I see this pop up in comments like “Oh Star Marine is cancelled or Where’s Star Marine!?” Star Marine was just a game mode for people to play the FPS elements of Star Citizen until we could combine everything together: Flying, walking around, shooting, doing all the rest of the stuff, all together, that is what is in 2.0, that’s what it’s 2.1.

With SC Alpha 2.0 onwards, you have basically what we were planning to do from Star Citizen and from the very very beginning. If you could back and look at the original pitch we didn’t say “Hey we’re doing Star Marine,” We said we will have FPS and Board, well you have FPS and you have boarding right now and so what’s really happening is there will not be features that will only be for Star Marine outside a sort of competition match and scoring that isn’t going to be in the game and so we’re actually rolling out the FPS features.

So 2.2 will have some more features on the FPS side and 2.3 will have some more and so on until we sort of what we consider the basic functionality. 2.2 has cover and some other things in it and we’ll obviously have future, there’s things like vaulting and sliding and different kind of stances that we have and there’s a lot more weapons that we have and they’re all getting rolled out and honing it and you guys are going to be able to play it in 2.2 and 2.3 and 2.4

When we’ve got that basic set together we will sort of turn on the map for Star Marine because all Star Marine is, is a game mode. Basically allows you to play a game, have two teams, have some points and so you can just sort of have a Arena Commander style match, but for FPS. That’s useful for you to hone your FPS skills without sort of being in the mini PU and risking some other stuff, but you already have FPS in the game so it’s not like FPS got cancelled or anything like that.

It’s definitely in and Star Marine was originally our idea of how to get people to play the FPS before we could put everything together, but since that obviously took longer than we expected to get FPS to the level that we are comfortable with. By the time we got it to the level we said ”Okay you guys can play this.” Well we already had all the other things combined with the Large World and the 64-bit coordinates and the zone system so that was it. So there you are, we will have Gold Horizon, we will have Star Marine, but that will come online once all the basic FPS features are out in and live in the mini PU."

trucutru posted:

He's just going going to write a blog about the 2 guys who left CIG.

Prove me wrong Derek, prove me wrong.

fuctifino posted:

http://resumes.actorsaccess.com/sandigardiner

Sandi has a new thing listed on her resume site called 'Lagos 2035'. There is nothing on IMDB, and hardly any mention of it on google. The most detailed description I got was from the site of one of the other actors: http://www.dinawilson.com/


Wasn't that the time when Sandi 'I never take a day off' Gardiner was sporting that fake tattoo on her neck? Wasn't November a busy time for CIG? Weren't there months worth of CS tickets to respond to, and JPG ships to market?

A Neurotic Jew posted:

reading the reddit thread on star marine is so delicious. What's particularly great is that on top of the news about the cancellation, Chris Roberts' contempt for the backers was openly exposed, and people who don't even care about Star Marine are weirded out by it. And the posts discussing how disconcerting it is are being massively upvoted.

Is Chris Roberts going to let popular criticism of his attitude go by without a response? I really, really doubt it.

Barnsy posted:

Why do they have 3 huge flatscreens??

Lowtax posted:

hehehehe

http://www.somethingawful.com/video-game-article/space-marine-setback/