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Weed Status: legal but in a kind of disappointing way Welcome to the Canadian politics megathread! If you're just joining us, our country is a fairly geographically diverse and regionally segmented population of about 35 million. Approximately 68% of the voting population just elected a Liberal majority government. This returns us to the historical average of about 70% of people who actually give a poo poo to vote every few years. How Things Stand On November 4th, new Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will swear in a new cabinet. He has promised to keep the portfolio numbers down, and appoint a record number of women to these positions. He has also promised to move swiftly on areas of concern, which I will outline below. This being a majority government, the Liberals now have a guaranteed four years in power unless they choose to contravene the fixed election law for some bizarre reason. This gives them the kind of mandate that can radically change the country - or, more likely, moderately revamp a few election planks while finding insane new ways to screw up. The Liberal platform has been interesting, since they seem to have taken stands on several things that seem contradictory- such as unwavering support for Keystone XL's NEB assessment, while also pushing for strengthened assessments and opposing the appropriation of native land for Northern Gateway. The platform is best viewed at Trudeau Metre, which not only lists every plank in the Liberal platform, but the progress made on each. What we can all agree on is there is a renewed sense of purpose in Canada for having rejected Stephen Harper, even from some of the defeated NDP. The other parties are licking their wounds, and there will be lots of talk about leadership races to replace Harper. Mulcair has not signalled that he would step down, but, with a decimated seat allotment, we're not sure what will happen in a few years. The Issues There are so many ways that the Conservatives have been messing with Canada that I'm unsure of where to start. The following list may reflect my bias:
Sources for News I personally rely on a couple of things to get my news. First of all, if you can sign up to the iPolitics Brief (may require a subscription, but mine has expired and I still get it), you are guaranteed at least basic knowledge of what to search on Google News that day. Our major national news sources are, sadly, the National Post, Macleans, Globe and Mail, and the CBC. For partisan news on the left and right, you will want to check out Rabble.ca and Sun News Network, respectively. I also make judicious use of Blogging Tories. Good regionals include the Tyee for BC, Toronto Star, Ottawa Citizen, and I guess Cyberpresse or Le Devoir for Quebec? Alternative news includes the CANADALAND podcast, the National Observer, and iPolitics. Opinion editorials to watch include Chris Selley's pundit round up, Aaron Wherry, Paul Wells, Andrew Coyne, Johns Ibbitson and Ivison (I'm not convinced they're different people), Dan Gardner... this list is pretty leftist, but Coyne makes up for all of the others. The rest of the time I use RSS feeds, Google news search alerts, and Twitter. If you're handy, you can use RSS feeds and your Twitter account in conjunction with something like Flipboard (as I do) to find articles that are making big waves. Watch #cdnpoli for a while to get an idea of the best twitter feeds to watch for serious retweeters, then follow them and watch who they're retweeting. Easy, and your smartphone can keep you up to date at all times. Just Admit It You Scrolled Down To See This Part and You'll Have To Be Disappointed The Only Person Who Matters Right Now, His Undeniable Sexiness Justin Trudeau and the Queen Kafka Esq. fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Nov 13, 2018 |
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quote:Good Monday morning to you.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:29 |
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Can we stop talking about the election soon?
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:31 |
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stoppin in on the first page of the upcoming 4-year thread to say I don't think things are going to be all that great
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:33 |
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A refresher on what is going on in British Columbia as we speak: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/email-scandal-1.3284856 quote:The B.C. government is coming under heavy fire following the release of a report that revealed a culture of deleting emails in order to skirt freedom of information laws. This is in light of the fact that the BC Liberals in 2013, went on a tirade about former NDP leader, Adrian Dix and his doctoring of an internal memo when he was working in the previous NDP government. Of course, news articles about the attack exist but campaign videos have been removed.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:35 |
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Good new thread. Do you have links to articles from security / privacy people who say that the suggested c51 changes don't go far enough?
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:36 |
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JawKnee posted:stoppin in on the first page of the upcoming 4-year thread to say I don't think things are going to be all that great Don't blame me I voted Marxist-Leninist
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:36 |
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quote:http://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ontario-will-defend-move-to-declare-ttc-an-essential-service-in-court-challenge-1.2628181 More fallout from the SCC decision in February to side against essential services legislation. I've read 4 other terribly brief articles about the same thing, and this was the first to actually point to the SCC decision as being behind the court challenge. Booooooring
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:37 |
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List all the promises jt will actually keep. Here's my list:
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:37 |
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jm20 posted:More fallout from the SCC decision in February to side against essential services legislation. I've read 4 other terribly brief articles about the same thing, and this was the first to actually point to the SCC decision as being behind the court challenge. Booooooring I find this very interesting, I presume Saskatchewan appealed the ruling? It never made sense to me that transit is an essential service----cops and EMS and doctors, sure, but a bus driver?
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:45 |
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draft doug ford
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:46 |
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jet sanchEz posted:I find this very interesting, I presume Saskatchewan appealed the ruling? It never made sense to me that transit is an essential service----cops and EMS and doctors, sure, but a bus driver? For people without cars, it can be a pretty essential service.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:47 |
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Jordan7hm posted:Good new thread. They are merely adding committees to the bill, it's terrible. Keep in mind the Canadian Bar Association says the bill is hot garbage. http://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2015/05/08/Bill-C-51-Oversight/ http://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-debate/parliament-must-reject-the-anti-terror-bill/article22932072/ https://cdnantiterrorismlawaudit.wordpress.com/ http://www.macleans.ca/authors/john-geddes/two-profs-take-on-the-harpers-anti-terrorism-bill/
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:48 |
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Let's take this baby to page 420 and then Trudeau will legalise weed.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:49 |
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Generation Internet posted:Don't blame me I voted Marxist-Leninist Marxist-Leninist and Communist combined still got fewer votes than the Libertaraian party. If you moved all the Libertarians to any one riding they could get a seat. You'd have to move the Marxist-Leninists to Labrador to get that.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:51 |
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jet sanchEz posted:I find this very interesting, I presume Saskatchewan appealed the ruling? It never made sense to me that transit is an essential service----cops and EMS and doctors, sure, but a bus driver? A lot of people need to take the bus to work. If they can't work, they can't get paid. They can't afford to take a taxi across Toronto in rush hour. If they can't get paid, they can't eat food or heat the house. Speaking of doctors, Ontario's are launching a charter challenge to get binding arbitration like doctors enjoy in 8 other provinces. Ontario MDs plan charter challenge against provincial government quote:Ontario doctors plan to launch a charter challenge against the provincial government, which has twice this year unilaterally cut their pay.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:51 |
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Also, mailboxes.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 21:58 |
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Cultural Imperial posted:List all the promises jt will actually keep. cynicism is pretty easy
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:09 |
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no worries I'm sure weed will be legal any day now
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:10 |
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I'm as cynical as anyone else, but I gotta say, I'm vaguely optimistic about most of this. Except guns of course. Reversing the single positive bit of firearms legislation we've seen since the long gun registry go killed kinda sucks, but at least it's back to the status quo rather than getting worse. The 'assault weapons' thing in the Liberal platform is kinda worrying too, but whatever. If we start seeing some proper funding for social services, it might be worth it.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:15 |
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Maybe we should roll in the inability for management to in any way diminish contract benefits for essential service workers?
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:18 |
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I just had a terrible thought. Jason Kenney is widely expected to become the next Conservative leader. There's a distinct, non-zero probability that we could go from Prime Minister Justin to Prime Minister Jason.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:27 |
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What are the chances Christine Elliott tries for the federal CPC leadership? She's got the connection to Flaherty who was pretty popular, while being relatively moderate. On the other hand she already lost the Ontario leadership race, might be hard to garner support after that.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:32 |
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I've only ever had community mailboxes. Can we get Canada Post to roll out door to door delivery everywhere else?
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:34 |
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The next 4 years are most likely going to be terribly unremarkable.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:37 |
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If you don't have door to door mail you need to move in from your bumfuck village or subsidy dependent suburbia you live in and start contributing to society. Door to door delivery is the reward you get for living a slightly less gross existence.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:41 |
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EvilJoven posted:The next 4 years are most likely going to be terribly unremarkable. Trudeau's Canada: It's like Anna Nicole Smith's anus.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:41 |
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I'd rather you moved out of your bum gently caress hamlet into a subsidized suburb. gently caress your rural ~hobby farm
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 22:44 |
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Is WiFi more dangerous than smoked salmon
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:05 |
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Baronjutter posted:If you don't have door to door mail you need to move in from your bumfuck village or subsidy dependent suburbia you live in and start contributing to society. Door to door delivery is the reward you get for living a slightly less gross existence. Because only people who live in central parts of cities are real citizens
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:11 |
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Cultural Imperial posted:Is WiFi more dangerous than smoked salmon That depends on whether the salmon is gluten-free or not.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:15 |
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Baudin posted:Because only people who live in central parts of cities are real citizens Unironically agree w/ this
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:15 |
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jm20 posted:They are merely adding committees to the bill, it's terrible. Keep in mind the Canadian Bar Association says the bill is hot garbage. None of these comment on the proposed changes. Like, at all. Because they are from much earlier in the year. The list of changes that I've seen pretty much is this: quote:— Guarantee that all Canadian Security Intelligence Service warrants respect the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. This would roll back provisions allowing CSIS to disrupt terror plots through tactics that contravene the charter as long as a judge approves. Critics have called the provisions an extraordinary inversion of the judicial role to uphold — not sanction violations of — the charter; That seems like more than just adding oversight.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:20 |
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Baudin posted:Because only people who live in central parts of cities are real citizens Idiots who settle down in suburbia and then contribute to congestion by car commuting are subhuman scum of urban centres. "Why are the roads full of traffic and potholes!" *drives station wagon with no other occupant*
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:21 |
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Baronjutter posted:If you don't have door to door mail you need to move in from your bumfuck village or subsidy dependent suburbia you live in and start contributing to society. Door to door delivery is the reward you get for living a slightly less gross existence. Since when do urbanites get door delivery? gently caress knows I never have, not in Calgary or in Montreal.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:30 |
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Dench comes before Mirren in the line of succession. There's no way they're rolling back the areas they've already switched over to cmbs, but hopefully a few posties will get to keep their jobs under Trudeau the Younger.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:34 |
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PT6A you must be stoked that your man Nenshi was declared the Best Mayor in the World: http://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/calgary-s-naheed-nenshi-named-top-mayor-in-the-world-1.2217700
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Good chunks of my mom's total suburbia gets door-to-door delivery (she has a community mailbox and has for over 15 years, whereas two streets away they get door-to-door), while I live in a rural village of 10,000 people that doesn't. It's partly a rural/urban issue, but it's also fairly random.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:40 |
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My apartment building in the middle of downtown Toronto has door to door delivery. It weirded me out when I first moved in because I'd literally never seen that before in an apartment. It's always been a mailroom/wall o' mail boxes
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:46 |
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I'm satisfied with most of Trudeau's platform but the picture for the canadian economy is so loving depressing that it's hard to feel hopeful.
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# ? Oct 26, 2015 23:48 |