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e: gently caress wrong thread That cop can't even hip toss right
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:kids are, er, supposed to be in school, so maybe trying to keep them out is actually bad. just imo. Right, but if they won't do what a teacher or a cop says (even though the latter is dangerous), what to do in recourse? If they had suspended her, I imagine we'd be lamenting how schools leave some kids behind.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:30
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Alos, are we allowed to say "A black" again?
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Oct 27, 2015 16:31
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phasmid posted:Right, but if they won't do what a teacher or a cop says (even though the latter is dangerous), what to do in recourse? If they had suspended her, I imagine we'd be lamenting how schools leave some kids behind. Obviously the only option is to flip over the kid's chair/desk while the kid is still in it.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:32
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:kids are, er, supposed to be in school, so maybe trying to keep them out is actually bad. just imo. As much as it is important to do good in school, school still sucks dude. It's like a job but you don't get paid.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:32
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InterFaced posted:Obviously the only option is to flip over the kid's chair/desk while the kid is still in it. That was scary as hell and the guy was totally out of order. That said, it didn't surprise me a bit.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:34
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Booblord Zagats posted:e: gently caress wrong thread I would have used a joint immobilization like a hammer lock or a wrist lock and calmly walked the suspect out of the class room without a bunch of theatrics.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:34
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In all fairness, police, being adult-sized cowardly babies, really can't expect to take on an unarmed teenage girl without leveling the playing field a bit. Sometimes that means pulling a weapon and telling your superior that, being a craven weakling, you were terrified for your wretched life and unable to defend your feeble body. In this case, he chose a pre-emptive strike, because sudden and disproportionate violence was the only way that a gutless simpleton could hope to resolve the situation without being brutalized or outwitted by an average teenybopper. Please be more understanding, OP
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Oct 27, 2015 16:38
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Police are in schools now so they can hopefully get a high school education which they so desperately need
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Oct 27, 2015 16:39
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Tuxedo Gin posted:Well, maybe the administrator wanted to suspend her but she refused to get up from her chair to be suspended. You can pretty clearly see from the video that she is just sitting there quietly, probably scared of the police officer, which in itself is a gigantic problem. Just leave her alone at that point. Deal with it later, she can't sit in that chair forever. TacticalUrbanHomo posted:why would her rights need to be read? she wasn't being interrogated. Uh, he handcuffed her? There is a process that has to be followed otherwise it's a violation of your civil rights.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:40
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InterFaced posted:How many boner pills do you think that pig eats on any given day? I hope he eats a lead bullet on this given day
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Oct 27, 2015 16:43
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phasmid posted:Right, but if they won't do what a teacher or a cop says (even though the latter is dangerous), what to do in recourse? If they had suspended her, I imagine we'd be lamenting how schools leave some kids behind. who gives a gently caress I promise there are no kids in america struggling to get an education whose primary obstacle is an obnoxious classmate
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Oct 27, 2015 16:49
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Lets imagine for a second that there wasn't a pig in that school. What if the teacher did the same thing? There's still an authority figure present in the teacher. My point is gently caress the police hard and forever.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:49
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I said come in! posted:Uh, he handcuffed her? There is a process that has to be followed otherwise it's a violation of your civil rights. yes and he violated that process because, from what we can see in the video and from the sheriff's statement no crime was occurring and therefore there was no justification for the arrest, but the reading of one's rights has nothing to do with that. she wasn't being interrogated so why are you concerned that she didn't receive a miranda warning?
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Oct 27, 2015 16:50
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This technique is called yama arashi or the mountain storm and I hope you brought your rain coat because you are about to go down like the precipitation that is its name sake.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:51
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This is nowhere near a "bodyslam". Get your wrestling moves straight ffs.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:51
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a bay posted:I would have used a joint immobilization like a hammer lock or a wrist lock and calmly walked the suspect out of the class room without a bunch of theatrics. I wouldn't have done anything because as boring as being a cop was sometimes I don't think there was a single day of my time in law enforcement where the best use of my time would have been physically assaulting a child in a classroom, that's my opinion
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Oct 27, 2015 16:53
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I bet he got some boob
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Oct 27, 2015 16:53
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lol pwnt
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Oct 27, 2015 16:54
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:I wouldn't have done anything because as boring as being a cop was sometimes I don't think there was a single day of my time in law enforcement where the best use of my time would have been physically assaulting a child in a classroom, that's my opinion I would have gotten really pissed off because she was being such a bitch but I would have played it cool.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:57
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I feel misled there was no body slam just some tossing and a man handling. Besides the desk falling back, largely due to her own resistance, she probably didn't even get hurt.Hooded Reptile posted:"When I saw what was about to happen my immediate first thing to think is let me get this on camera. This is going to be something that not only I'm going to be like 'wow did this really happened at my class,' but just something that everybody else needs to see. This is something that we can't let this just pass by."
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Oct 27, 2015 16:57
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I'm pretty sure there's nothing a high school student sitting at a desk could do short of pulling out a gun/weapon (which obv didn't happen) that would justify what that cop did. "Mouthing off" isn't cause enough to assault a teenager.
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Oct 27, 2015 16:59
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Moridin920 posted:I'm pretty sure there's nothing a high school student sitting at a desk could do short of pulling out a gun/weapon (which obv didn't happen) that would justify what that cop did. it actually would have been justified if he had a good reason to arrest her. according to the sheriff, though, the deputy was arresting her for "disrupting school" or something like that so it doesn't sound like he did. to be clear what I'm saying is that what he did would have been perfectly appropriate, and in fact a much much better way to handle the situation than grabbing a taser or pepper spray, if the person he was dealing with was an actual suspect of an actual crime. but from what I can see and from what the sheriff has said, she wasn't.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:02
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:yes and he violated that process because, from what we can see in the video and from the sheriff's statement no crime was occurring and therefore there was no justification for the arrest, but the reading of one's rights has nothing to do with that. she wasn't being interrogated so why are you concerned that she didn't receive a miranda warning? An officer is required to read you your miranda rights if you are being arrested. She was being handcuffed, therefore being arrested. An officer can't just handcuff you for shits and giggles.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:03
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I said come in! posted:
No, there isn't. Being detained and being arrested are two different things.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:03
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bruvs be4 luvs
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I said come in! posted:An officer is required to read you your miranda rights if you are being arrested. She was being handcuffed, therefore being arrested. An officer can't just handcuff you for shits and giggles. wrong
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Oct 27, 2015 17:03
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Should have gotten the jaws of life to remove her from that chair lol
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Oct 27, 2015 17:04
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Black chick gets a police beatdown for using cellphone in class, recorded on white kid's cellphone. In class.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:04
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man, I sure hope this thread doesn't get gassed!
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Oct 27, 2015 17:05
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Should have powerbombed her through the desk
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Oct 27, 2015 17:05
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Maybe if she built a clock instead things would be different By that I mean they would have shot her lol
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Oct 27, 2015 17:06
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TacticalUrbanHomo posted:it actually would have been justified if he had a good reason to arrest her. according to the sheriff, though, the deputy was arresting her for "disrupting school" or something like that so it doesn't sound like he did. Nah dude come on. Like yeah I'm sure it's 'legal' to do what he did in the process of arresting her but why do police have to get so violent so fast? Even if she was under arrest you're telling me an officer needs to do that to subdue a teenage girl sitting at a desk? Better than a taser or pepper spray? Well yeah but why is any force required to get the cuffs on necessary to begin with assuming the person isn't struggling or trying to fight you? Like, if I was told I was under arrest (and I have been) I'd say 'aw poo poo' and peacefully let the cuffs go on and whatnot. If I was not even given the chance and just slammed into the ground immediately I'd be pissed off. Girl was sitting at a school desk, no way she was being threatening or anything like that. e: tbf you should do what police tell you to do, not following lawful orders is just retarded idk why people keep doing it. that said, again: teenage girl. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Oct 27, 2015 |
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Oct 27, 2015 17:10
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Cops went to the Supreme Court to earn the right to not have to protect or serve. Now all they do is beat up women and children and shoot men. I think it's safe to say that cops are massive cowards and are completely unnecessary.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:12
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Hooded Reptile posted:In the wake of the video that surfaced from a South Carolina classroom of a school resource officer forcibly pulling a student out of her chair, the Richland County Sheriff is seeking a federal investigation of the incident. lol NARCed for using her phone real quick in class next it'll be someone getting tazed for not using a #2 pencil on their test
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Oct 27, 2015 17:12
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I said come in! posted:Yeah, that sounds incredibly illegal, her rights weren't read to her for starters. Even if she was instructed to come with the cop, why was that needed to begin with? She is just a teenager, suspend kids that are being dipshits. There are a hundred different things you can do to a kid in high school that don't involve using violence. aw yeeeea
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Oct 27, 2015 17:14
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Maybe he was just angry cause he just lost his gun.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:15
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I said come in! posted:An officer is required to read you your miranda rights if you are being arrested. I wasn't aware that was the case in South Carolina. It isn't the case under Federal law, or they would have taught that at FLETC, and it wasn't the case in California, the only American state in which I ever arrested anyone. This must be some peculiarity to SC, although I strongly suspect that it actually isn't true anywhere in the country.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:15
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Like it just goes from 'move' to slam into the ground immediately. There's no moment where he goes 'fine then I'm cuffing you,' or anything like that to give the girl a chance to comply, he just loses it and immediately starts with the use of force. The proper response to 'I don't even know who you are' is 'I'm a police officer and I'm giving you a lawful order. Move please.' not violence. I think you only need to be mirandized before you are interrogated but any incriminating statement given to police before being informed of Miranda rights is inadmissible in court. It's not actually illegal to not Mirandize someone you are arresting.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:16
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a bay posted:I would have used a joint immobilization like a hammer lock or a wrist lock and calmly walked the suspect out of the class room without a bunch of theatrics. Mozambique Drill that poo poo, son
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Oct 27, 2015 17:17
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Moridin920 posted:Nah dude come on. Like yeah I'm sure it's 'legal' to do what he did in the process of arresting her but why do police have to get so violent so fast? Even if she was under arrest you're telling me an officer needs to do that to subdue a teenage girl sitting at a desk? Better than a taser or pepper spray? Well yeah but why is any force required to get the cuffs on necessary to begin with assuming the person isn't struggling or trying to fight you? I'm not reading all of that this wasn't a lawful arrest so I think we're mostly on the same page but from a professional point of view while it was more force than I would have used because I'm personally lazy and don't have a huge hardon for yanking people around she apparently wasn't injured nor does it look like what he did was particularly likely to result in injury so idgaf about the use of force in and of itself so much as I do that the use of force was unlawful.
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Oct 27, 2015 17:18
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