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I'm Crap posted:3: you're an empire-building jobsworth who needs to feel important and hopes that everyone forgets how useless and greedy you are (i.e. a university administrator)
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Drink Cheerwine posted:cant speak to the UK, but in the US, much of this college rape adjudication farce stems from their title ix legal liability thanks to some really ill-advised "dear colleague" letters from the dept of education in the past 5 years. The "Dear Colleague" letters are some of the most terrible poo poo around. They occupy a weird grey area where they can't be challenged because they're an interpretation of official policy rather than official policy themselves, but when the DoE is acting against colleges they still use the "Dear Colleague" letters as guidelines for how policy is actually enforced. It's a legal loophole that's rendered the DoE unaccountable in a lot of ways. I'm against right wing attempts to defund it, but the "Dear Colleague" poo poo needs to stop.
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Adventure Pigeon posted:The "Dear Colleague" letters are some of the most terrible poo poo around. They occupy a weird grey area where they can't be challenged because they're an interpretation of official policy rather than official policy themselves, but when the DoE is acting against colleges they still use the "Dear Colleague" letters as guidelines for how policy is actually enforced. It's a legal loophole that's rendered the DoE unaccountable in a lot of ways. I'm against right wing attempts to defund it, but the "Dear Colleague" poo poo needs to stop. the feds do this kind of shady poo poo whenever they can get away with it, which is almost all the time. leviathan hungers- please fill out a form ctch-22.162 and feed it.
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It's clear that the only way for people to protect themselves is to be recording everything at all time by carrying secret cameras. "Actually officers, all I said was 'I like your bright neon green hair' and she replied with, 'Oh thanks.' As seen in this video." The Orwellian nightmare becomes SJW shut down tools. There would be zero consequences whatsoever of recording everything. None at all.
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Maoist Pussy posted:This group is anti-police, anti-prison, anti-heteronormative, anti-homonationalist, anti-colonial, anti-state, anti-corporate
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Azareil posted:It's clear that the only way for people to protect themselves is to be recording everything at all time by carrying secret cameras. so everyone gets their own mattress girl sex tape. sounds fun! "if it may please the court, the frequent cries of "BANANA" you'll hear is our consent word and yes those are real dragon dildos"
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Drink Cheerwine posted:the feds do this kind of shady poo poo whenever they can get away with it, which is almost all the time. leviathan hungers- please fill out a form ctch-22.162 and feed it. Pretty much. The "Dear Colleague" letter has pretty much lead to the current situation where sexual assaults, arguably the second most serious type of crime, have somehow become a matter that universities are responsible for handling. So now they're afraid because if they do too much, they'll get sued and bad PR, if they do too little, they'll get sued and bad PR, and the people actually handling the cases tend to be unqualified, have personal biases and conflicts of interest, and are able to make up their own rules as they go along. It's a completely stupid situation yet the catch 22 nature of "Dear Colleague" letters make it all but impossible to change without taking on the DoE. Secret video cameras are all well and good, but may not be admissible depending on whatever pack of university administrators/faculty happen to be running the committee that day.
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Adventure Pigeon posted:Pretty much. The "Dear Colleague" letter has pretty much lead to the current situation where sexual assaults, arguably the second most serious type of crime, have somehow become a matter that universities are responsible for handling. So now they're afraid because if they do too much, they'll get sued and bad PR, if they do too little, they'll get sued and bad PR, and the people actually handling the cases tend to be unqualified, have personal biases and conflicts of interest, and are able to make up their own rules as they go along. It's a completely stupid situation yet the catch 22 nature of "Dear Colleague" letters make it all but impossible to change without taking on the DoE. the big problem is that if you don't let universities handle it then it's left up to the police to investigate, and they are extremely misogynist because they might ask the victim questions and try to find evidence which is v. problematic and triggering.
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most SJWs are younger or older than college age and tend to talk about issues of rape and consent in a more generally applicable sense, not college policies
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A lot of schools are getting the poo poo sued out of them and are paying out big bucks to those dragged in front of their troikas. Public universities in a number of states are hurting for cash at best or collapsing at worst; they need to fight for funding and not get mired between a rock and a hard place. Basically: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzuC8B46N_w
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Adventure Pigeon posted:Pretty much. The "Dear Colleague" letter has pretty much lead to the current situation where sexual assaults, arguably the second most serious type of crime, have somehow become a matter that universities are responsible for handling. So now they're afraid because if they do too much, they'll get sued and bad PR, if they do too little, they'll get sued and bad PR, and the people actually handling the cases tend to be unqualified, have personal biases and conflicts of interest, and are able to make up their own rules as they go along. It's a completely stupid situation yet the catch 22 nature of "Dear Colleague" letters make it all but impossible to change without taking on the DoE. Where can I read more about Dear Colleague letters? I've never heard the term before and Google turns up stuff about the US Congress.
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The Giggler posted:I thought it was derived from the Jamaican Patois "batty boy", which is a derogatory term for a gay man. It's not
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Even though it's an edit, it will never not be funny. I'm pretty sure KC Green is an sjw too and got all kinds of hatemail for it because these people are looking to be triggered. Basically. They're asking for it.
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Chamale posted:Where can I read more about Dear Colleague letters? I've never heard the term before and Google turns up stuff about the US Congress. some contemporary reactions: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/08/30/on_sexual_harassment_and_title_ix_111065.html http://collegeinsurrection.com/2012/09/education-dept-unlawfully-changes-burden-of-proof-in-college-sexual-harassment-cases/ https://www.thefire.org/why-the-office-for-civil-rights-april-dear-colleague-letter-was-2011s-biggest-fire-fight/ an article on compliance: http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=5b5bed65-ba96-46eb-8647-446621475024 they send the letters semi-regularly, but 2011 was the big change. there have been a number of lawsuits since the 2011 change, and most of the plaintiffs have won beaucoup ducats in real courts after being subjected to the kangaroo courts of public universities
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t-t-t-t-triggered i support trial by mob. i await "welcome ropes" to dangle from our "friendship trees"/light posts Kinetica fucked around with this message at 00:48 on Nov 3, 2015 |
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burn the woman at the stake, if she was really raped she will emerge from the flames unscathed
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City of Tampa posted:the big problem is that if you don't let universities handle it then it's left up to the police to investigate, and they are extremely misogynist because they might ask the victim questions and try to find evidence which is v. problematic and triggering. This is literally the argument they use. Even if a rape accusation is false and an innocent persons life is ruined, that's okay because actually questioning an accuser is potentially triggering and might stop other rape victims from coming forward or something. The preponderance of evidence standard is bullshit.
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Nov 3, 2015 03:28
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first question: what clothes were you wearing? second question: did he wear a condom? third question: who is your dad?
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rookie officer gets put on 6 month leave for not asking question 3 first
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Being accused of rape triggers me please do not mention the rapes that I might have committed
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvsDUyJwu6c there is no healing in silence I am ready to speak
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Huge Lady Pleaser posted:Being accused of rape triggers me please do not mention the rapes that I might have committed nice username/post combo here
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nomadologique posted:first question: what clothes were you wearing? Question 4: are you a star athlete?
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Drink Cheerwine posted:some contemporary reactions: Never heard of them either. Real interesting thanks.
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Hell Yeah posted:welcome to the future, where sex is impossible Once again, the Japanese were ahead of the curve!
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Twelve Batmans posted:Even though it's an edit, it will never not be funny. I'm pretty sure KC Green is an sjw too and got all kinds of hatemail for it because these people are looking to be triggered. is KC finally making money from dickbutt yet
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Twelve Batmans posted:Even though it's an edit, it will never not be funny. I'm pretty sure KC Green is an sjw too and got all kinds of hatemail for it because these people are looking to be triggered. He got called-out on twitter by tumblr people who demanded that he explain himself to assure everyone he didn't make what was clearly an edit he took a lot of older stuff down that was tumblr-unfriendly while the spotlight was on him because you had a lot of people going "well even if it is an edit, kc still has a problematic history so how could we have known" people seem to be extremely unaware that kc has a history of anxiety and depression to where calling him out on sjw twitter was probably the most traumatic moment of his recent life and worse than anything a tumblr person has felt because they read an illegal gunshow photoshop
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Setzer Gabbiani posted:
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yea that's p lol
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