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wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
wasnt obama promising universal healthcare at this point in the 2008 election while hil dogg was promising obamacare and her poll numbers started to tank when she stated honestly that you'd be legally compelled to buy insurance or face a fine

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etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Whatev posted:

Also the Clintons are loving awful and the epitome of phony populist corporate fellators

lolling how democrats have such rose tinted nostalgia over the Clintons despite them being republicans in disguise.

Whatev
Jan 19, 2007

unfading

wiffle ball bat posted:

wasnt obama promising universal healthcare at this point in the 2008 election while hil dogg was promising obamacare and her poll numbers started to tank when she stated honestly that you'd be legally compelled to buy insurance or face a fine
Obama was promising Obamacare that somehow did not have a mandate, but was otherwise basically the same plan as Hillary's. Both still included a public option. Obama didn't dump that until he was in the house.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
I want trump to win so I can hear people who ironically support him bitch about how he's destroying the country

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

I'm voting for Bernie because I like his position on post apocalyptic raiding.



and I feel his experience makes him well suited to be president.



I'm a bit uncertain on his "make anime real" policy though.







He's gonna have some problems luring some minorities groups away from Hillary but I'm confident he can fine tune his message to be more accessible to them.

Nut to Butt
Apr 13, 2009

by FactsAreUseless

extra stout posted:

hillary clinton please explain to america how you and your family are never in jail despite always being criminal business masterminds in three emojis or less

ANIME IS BLOOD
Sep 4, 2008

by zen death robot
I like how sanderistas portray him as the champion that will save them from hillary when his debate tactic was to come just short of genuflecting before her on stage

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

I can't imagine how anyone would support Clinton either you support Sanders' vision or you want a Trump dystopia it's pretty clear cut, Hillary is just trying to be the cynical default position for people without an ounce of courage

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Well, Bernie is going to be president and his ideas are good, so I don't see what he has in common with Ron Paul.

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Commie NedFlanders posted:

I can't imagine how anyone would support Clinton either you support Sanders' vision or you want a Trump dystopia it's pretty clear cut, Hillary is just trying to be the cynical default position for people without an ounce of courage

pretty accurate, that voter apathy is pretty much according to keikaku to the Establishment. I've seen people post about Hillary and they're so brokenly jaded its sad. Worth a shot either way~

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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i would be more inclined to support bernie were it not for his internet fans

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

ppl at this time in 2007 were saying a black democrat named barack hussein obama would never beat the clinton machine and get elected POTUS but here we are at the end of his 2nd term. so I think loud old white guy with questionable hair has a fair shot. hell, look at trump.

worth a shot anyway, hillary probably will win but she still deserves a serious challenge from the left.

I do agree that his internet fanboys are p insufferable though, just like obama's were. don't develop cults of personality around political figures you dummies, even if they're ones you agree with

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



think of him more as the white american che guevara

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Fojar38 posted:

i would be more inclined to support bernie were it not for his internet fans

He's famous in vermont

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

The Goatfather posted:

think of him more as the white american che guevara

So he winds up someone's bitch?

poverty goat
Feb 15, 2004



The Taint Reaper posted:

So he winds up someone's bitch?
mostly just liberal teens wearing tshirts

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


cram me sideways posted:

if they make rubio the republican candidate then it's them basically saying "we know we don't stand a loving chance so gently caress it let's just have fun. yeah, a cuban! didn't expect that, did you, you loving dumbocrats"

hes the most likely candidate by far according to european bookies i guess

edit: see http://predictwise.com/

Taima
Dec 31, 2006

tfw you're peeing next to someone in the lineup and they don't know

Fojar38 posted:

i would be more inclined to support bernie were it not for his internet fans

How much of a beta bitch do you have to be to let random people that you dont even know determine your actions

The Duchess Smackarse
May 8, 2012

by Lowtax

Taima posted:

How much of a beta bitch do you have to be to let random people that you dont even know determine your actions

That's literally everybody who lives in a democracy

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer
sanderistas are a coalition of college students and mentally ill people on disability

cram me sideways
Apr 26, 2015

Flavahbeast posted:

hes the most likely candidate by far according to european bookies i guess

edit: see http://predictwise.com/

yeah at this point def; jeb basically quit live on television during the last debate - he was supposed to get his nuts out and slam them on the table but he forgot his coffee that morning so now we gotta stand around some more and wait and see which dingus rises to the top

but i still bet they'll make jeb the candidate because the bush dynasty is a nasty, long tendriled creature that always gets what it wants - assuming jeb actually wants to be prez (he doesn't)

Horniest Manticore
Nov 23, 2013

Hello, you!
Lipstick Apathy

Taima posted:

How much of a beta bitch do you have to be to let random people that you dont even know determine your actions

if you're alpha, you're unquestionably voting for trump. he's far and away the most alpha candidate

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

Feranon posted:

ppl at this time in 2007 were saying a black democrat named barack hussein obama would never beat the clinton machine and get elected POTUS but here we are at the end of his 2nd term. so I think loud old white guy with questionable hair has a fair shot. hell, look at trump.

worth a shot anyway, hillary probably will win but she still deserves a serious challenge from the left.

I do agree that his internet fanboys are p insufferable though, just like obama's were. don't develop cults of personality around political figures you dummies, even if they're ones you agree with

obama was polling equally to clinton at this time in 2007: http://www.gallup.com/poll/102277/gallup-election-review-october-2007.aspx

but clinton looks like she's polling considerably further ahead than sanders right now: http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html (gallup isn't polling this year)

if we're taking 2008 as an example, it doesn't look good for sanders :(

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

fits my needs posted:

sanderistas are a coalition of college students and mentally ill people on disability

I like that description very much

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax
maybe ron paul is the right wing bernie sanders left

Frostwerks
Sep 24, 2007

by Lowtax

Frostwerks posted:

maybe ron paul is the right wing bernie sanders left

this is so stupid. its the dumbest thing ive literally thought in minutes

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Bernie sanders is going to require everyone with a big pickup to drive a Camaro instead

SUVs will be replaced with Geo Metros

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

Grand Prize Winner posted:

Bernie sanders is going to require everyone with a big pickup to drive a Camaro instead

SUVs will be replaced with Geo Metros

heck i'd support it

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

Blue Train posted:

we should just get rid of the politicians and elect our favorite businesses to run the country, cut out the middleman get straight to neoamerica

we can't do this until we have sufficiently advanced technology that's indistinguishable from magic, otherwise we'll never get to live out our shadowrun fantasies

Dogmeat posted:

If Bernie doesn't win I hope Trump does.

this, trump would flail around helplessly for a term and maybe he'll say some dumb, memorable things that'll make history class more fun for kids in fifty years, but hill-dog is the bullet train to a gibsonian corporate dystopia, except we won't get fun techno-fashion

Fur20 fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Nov 2, 2015

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

The White Dragon posted:

we can't do this until we have sufficiently advanced technology that's indistinguishable from magic, otherwise we'll never get to live out our shadowrun fantasies

On a random note this is the city of London does things.

All the big local corporations get automatic votes in the local government proportional to their size

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/31/corporation-london-city-medieval

quote:

What is this thing? Ostensibly it's the equivalent of a local council, responsible for a small area of London known as the Square Mile. But, as its website boasts, "among local authorities the City of London is unique". You bet it is. There are 25 electoral wards in the Square Mile. In four of them, the 9,000 people who live within its boundaries are permitted to vote. In the remaining 21, the votes are controlled by corporations, mostly banks and other financial companies. The bigger the business, the bigger the vote: a company with 10 workers gets two votes, the biggest employers, 79. It's not the workers who decide how the votes are cast, but the bosses, who "appoint" the voters. Plutocracy, pure and simple.

stefania_r
Sep 2, 2011
dammit I really really hate Hillary but I just hate Bernie more

Whatev
Jan 19, 2007

unfading

stefania_r posted:

dammit I really really hate Hillary but I just hate Bernie more

Do you hate them even more than you hate yourself? Now that would be a shock.

stefania_r
Sep 2, 2011

Whatev posted:

Do you hate them even more than you hate yourself? Now that would be a shock.

No I like myself just fine thank you very much

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

stefania_r posted:

dammit I really really hate Hillary but I just hate Bernie more

Please vote Democrat!

stefania_r
Sep 2, 2011

Nonsense posted:

Please vote Democrat!

I was gonna vote Trump but then I realized I hate him more than hillary+bernie combined

Fusilli Jerry
Dec 13, 2013

ASSMAN

stefania_r posted:

I was gonna vote Trump but then I realized I hate him more than hillary+bernie combined

so who the gently caress don't you hate?

The Merkinman
Apr 22, 2007

I sell only quality merkins. What is a merkin you ask? Why, it's a wig for your genitals!

Fusilli Jerry posted:

so who the gently caress don't you hate?

Themselves, obviously

Macasaurus
Oct 12, 2012

yeah basically OP, instead of a blimp i think reddit might fund a submarine for him or something

Ork of Fiction
Jul 22, 2013
If you were the GOP, how much money would you offer Trump to drop out and back your candidate?

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Blue Train
Jun 17, 2012

Ork of Fiction posted:

If you were the GOP, how much money would you offer Trump to drop out and back your candidate?

exactly, this is trumps plan to avoid another bankruptcy

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