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PiedPiper posted:Huh, interesting. It actually baffled me that they liked Avengers and Age of Ultron as much as they did. Especially when Rich Evans said that comic book movies should be silly and fun. Unlike many other sources I frequent, they actually count superhero sequels as part of the current problem Hollywood has with original ideas and not just a universally awesome and positive thing. And while they might have a positive opinion about those movies, they still provide something of a differentiated point of view, at least to me. E.g. that many of the Marvel movies have pretty weak, forgettable villains. They can still be perfectly enjoyable movies, but even such a critic point is almost unheard off (in certain circles).
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Unless you're really against them on principle, you have to try really hard to find Marvel movies actively unenjoyable. Except maybe the Incredible Hulk. As Mike said, they're fast food burgers. Not great, not technically burgers, but they're fine. They're certainly better made than something like The Last Stand.Shimrra Jamaane posted:I love the very rare times when Mike discusses something about video games because you can hear the absolute disdain in his voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJB0gsh6C8M King Vidiot posted:In the handful of Pre_Rec streams where Mike showed up, the gang kept talking about breaking out Dr. Mario for Mike as it seemed to be the only video game he's ever played or liked. He brought up that game all the time, and then when they finally did the Dr. Mario stream he didn't show up. Mike is great.
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Lurdiak posted:Unless you're really against them on principle, you have to try really hard to find Marvel movies actively unenjoyable. Except maybe the Incredible Hulk. As Mike said, they're fast food burgers. Not great, not technically burgers, but they're fine. They're certainly better made than something like The Last Stand. RLM gave The Last Stand a good review. I personally enjoyed it, too. They were right about too many women looking the same, though. It gets disorienting. I also respect that they destroyed their Chevy product-placed cars at the end.
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Harveygod posted:RLM gave The Last Stand a good review. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi7_r80uwn8&t=900s Interesting definition of good.
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the incredible hulk is better than several marvel films and the effects look better than the avengers hulk.
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Groovelord Neato posted:the incredible hulk is better than several marvel films and the effects look better than the avengers hulk. I remember it as being a good movie up until the monster fight and suddenly the Leader is there. rear end in a top hat Captain America vs Hulk is good.
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I like The Incredible Hulk just fine, I just feel it's the least "effective" Marvel film because it's kind of all over the map in a lot of ways and Liv Tyler is loving awful. I also hate the design of Hulk in that movie. Like, I hate looking at him. You can almost feel the conflict between the movie Ed Norton wanted to make and the movie the studio wanted in some scenes.
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Colin from Canada will appreciate that you said that.
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Lurdiak posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi7_r80uwn8&t=900s
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Corek posted:The only time that could have been possible was that Bob Rosenberg Finishing video, and I don't think they destroyed that one. What's striking is the difference between MST3K finding new ways to appreciate weird relics of B movie culture (and ultimately preserving them) and RLM's AVGN-style skits about breaking stuff. If they had been first to discover Manos, would they have destroyed it because it didn't "deserve" interest?
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They digitally archive them before they destroy the tapes.
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Toady posted:What's striking is the difference between MST3K finding new ways to appreciate weird relics of B movie culture (and ultimately preserving them) and RLM's AVGN-style skits about breaking stuff. If they had been first to discover Manos, would they have destroyed it because it didn't "deserve" interest? Detective No. 27 posted:They digitally archive them before they destroy the tapes. Well that answers that question.
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Obviously, they digitize them for editing into an episode. The point is that these are barely intact oddities from the early home video era that will never be re-released; RLM are the only ones watching them. If they had found Manos first, they would have destroyed it on camera for being boring, and that would be the end of it--no cult following, no restoration project, etc. It's a sharp contrast with MST3K and the B movie subculture, which treasured weird finds.
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Ok first they often seem to end up destroying stuff that's a lot more a mainstream Hollywood production you could probably find easily enough in a bin of DVDs in a random shop, notably Christmas Vacation 2 or Theodore Rex. Second they don't even destroy all of the videos though, only the ones they find seriously unwatchable, cynical or insulting, like a third of their episodes end without them destroying anything. They've genuinely sang the praises of some really unexpected stuff like Undefeatable, the Corman Fantastic Four and Xtro. Besides I don't find myself upset that they've deprived the world of another copy of American Flatulators or The Tomb.
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Toady posted:Obviously, they digitize them for editing into an episode. The point is that these are barely intact oddities from the early home video era that will never be re-released; RLM are the only ones watching them. If they had found Manos first, they would have destroyed it on camera for being boring, and that would be the end of it--no cult following, no restoration project, etc. It's a sharp contrast with MST3K and the B movie subculture, which treasured weird finds. There's no way they would have destroyed a find like Manos. They tend to appreciate the truly bizarre finds.
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I think my favorite Best of the Worst moment is it gradually dawning on them how good Xtro is.
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PoPcornTG posted:There's no way they would have destroyed a find like Manos. They tend to appreciate the truly bizarre finds. Outside the context of its MST3K appearance and absurd backstory, Manos is a boring home movie. Best of the Worst is about which bad film is most entertaining. It likely would have been destroyed because "nothing happens" and Rich Evans would "rather be raped" than watch it.
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Toady posted:Best of the Worst is about which bad film is most entertaining.
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Ken Levine's Cleared for Takeoff was unappreciated art and gently caress them for destroying it!
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Ken Levine's Cleared for Takeoff was unappreciated art and gently caress them for destroying it! The easy and expected response, which misses the point.
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Toady posted:Outside the context of its MST3K appearance and absurd backstory, Manos is a boring home movie. Best of the Worst is about which bad film is most entertaining. It likely would have been destroyed because "nothing happens" and Rich Evans would "rather be raped" than watch it. I know what I'd rather be doing than reading you posting about their treatment of bad movies, that's for sure.
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Lurdiak posted:Unless you're really against them on principle, you have to try really hard to find Marvel movies actively unenjoyable. Except maybe the Incredible Hulk. As Mike said, they're fast food burgers. Not great, not technically burgers, but they're fine. They're certainly better made than something like The Last Stand. Marvel movies are terrible, food analogies are way worse
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Torgo's first scene (where the family meets him at the door and he stumbles to their car while his theme music plays) is the exact kind of thing that would bring down the house on Best of the Worst.
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Looks like Max Landis is going to be on a RLM thing. https://twitter.com/Uptomyknees/status/663914120299675648
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That should be interesting. Landis is a huge rear end in a top hat but he's also pretty funny, and a big RLM fan.
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Lurdiak posted:That should be interesting. Landis is a huge rear end in a top hat but he's also pretty funny, and a big RLM fan. Wait, didn't they rip into him a huge amount in their American Ultra review?
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khwarezm posted:Wait, didn't they rip into him a huge amount in their American Ultra review? Yeah, and he got really baby-mad about it. I'd assume they contacted each other after the fact, since despite appearances, Landis is an adult.
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khwarezm posted:Wait, didn't they rip into him a huge amount in their American Ultra review? they also had a brief twitter spat a few months ago. it concluded in congratulating Landis on his role in the movie Max 
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Lurdiak posted:Yeah, and he got really baby-mad about it. I'd assume they contacted each other after the fact, since despite appearances, Landis is an adult.
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len kabasinski > max landis
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dreezy posted:len kabasinski > max landis I was really surprised at how likable Len Kabasinski was.
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Zmej posted:they also had a brief twitter spat a few months ago. it concluded in congratulating Landis on his role in the movie Max I thought Landis mentioned how RLM didn't like his movies. I don't think they responded?
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Y Kant Ozma Diet posted:I thought Landis mentioned how RLM didn't like his movies. I don't think they responded? Jay mentioned he liked Chronicle, and they replied on Twitter. https://imgur.com/jMTt6Oc mallratcal fucked around with this message at 07:07 on Nov 11, 2015 |
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CelticPredator posted:Looks like Max Landis is going to be on a RLM thing. I'll give him that answering "Dad?" to the twitter dude calling him bad names was kinda funny.
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Toady posted:Outside the context of its MST3K appearance and absurd backstory, Manos is a boring home movie. Best of the Worst is about which bad film is most entertaining. It likely would have been destroyed because "nothing happens" and Rich Evans would "rather be raped" than watch it. Would just like to remind you that they did not destroy Crazy Fat Ethel 2, and you are making a lot of assumptions for whatever reason.
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Someone with an internet grudge not making any sense? That's never happened before.
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Toady posted:Obviously, they digitize them for editing into an episode. The point is that these are barely intact oddities from the early home video era that will never be re-released; RLM are the only ones watching them. If they had found Manos first, they would have destroyed it on camera for being boring, and that would be the end of it--no cult following, no restoration project, etc. It's a sharp contrast with MST3K and the B movie subculture, which treasured weird finds. If I remember correctly, even MST3K was unsure whether they could do Manos. I'm surprised they destroyed Space Mutiny. It's stupid, but at least it's colorful and stuff happens in it.
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I'm all for preservation but they're not going to destroy a film that's actually rare, don't be dumb
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I mean I guess Dance of Birth might've been rare but that's not a film.
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