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Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Nubile Hillock posted:

Call me vain, but I have trouble taking a fat philosopher seriously. How about Zizek spend some time reflecting on what food not to shove in his idiot mush mouth??

hell if you can make enough money to stay fat when all your job consists of is talking some BS about the human condition or whatever then go for it

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extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

Darth123123 posted:

I can tell I don't like him from this post.

*sniffles*

*another coke sniffle*

okeh eye ehm hhehhhr to say you ish a fuckeng sheht posterr

*waves hands and bumps microphone, sneezes cocaine, the crowd goes wild as i talk over the host about how much you suck*

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe

Robo Reagan posted:

hell if you can make enough money to stay fat when all your job consists of is talking some BS about the human condition or whatever then go for it

Do you think he eats like regular fat guy food? Like chocolate bars and chips and McDonald's? Because I can only picture him eating gross foods like entire tubs of goat cheese chased with jars of marinated herring.

The Puppet Master
Apr 9, 2005

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.



no one is 100% correct which is why we have discourse and response

the guy says some interesting, actually intelligent things if you are someone down with his field of study

probably the smartest thing he did was to turn himself into a commodity (Zizek as a brand name associated with the most well know contemporary philosopher, several films, tons of books and articles, an entire critical journal to his writing, countless interviews and talks on youtube, etc) which both serves as a way to sort of survive/profit from the capitalistic system as well as offering a kind of ironic critique

you can take him or leave him, but I am kind of glad he is at least maybe getting some people to explore the role of philosophical thought in the 20th century beyond the confines of the academic institutions (pervert's guide to ideology and cinema)

butt implants
Oct 16, 2004

i'm gay
those zizek nerds would do better listening to this guy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwUJHNPMUyU

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9FXyr-LLeI

Commie NedFlanders
Mar 8, 2014

Zizek should get you to read other philosophers if you aren't big into philosophy and if you are he offers some clever and funny perspectives

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

Another zizek thread. Thanks! I hope he gets enough pop culture momentum in my country that it cute down the number of people going on the teevee advocating making schools STEM-only

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
watch this it is a pro click:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQbEgg_pEG0

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004
western philosophy is generally boring and unrewarding rumination

how long have those fuckers argued about the nature of god, or epistemology, philosophy of mind, or any other thing that has a variety of equally practically valid theories?

people come to these arguments already having had opinions formed, even if they don't know how to express them. their opinions are shaped by things like social context, upbringing, and personality.

philosophy serves the same purpose as modern television "news": people are going to enjoy what reinforces their already held beliefs and not be convinced by anything else. they already have their camp.

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

ashgromnies posted:

western philosophy is generally boring and unrewarding rumination

how long have those fuckers argued about the nature of god, or epistemology, philosophy of mind, or any other thing that has a variety of equally practically valid theories?

people come to these arguments already having had opinions formed, even if they don't know how to express them. their opinions are shaped by things like social context, upbringing, and personality.

philosophy serves the same purpose as modern television "news": people are going to enjoy what reinforces their already held beliefs and not be convinced by anything else. they already have their camp.

it sounds to me my friend

like you are doing philosophy

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

ashgromnies posted:

western philosophy is generally boring and unrewarding rumination

how long have those fuckers argued about the nature of god, or epistemology, philosophy of mind, or any other thing that has a variety of equally practically valid theories?

people come to these arguments already having had opinions formed, even if they don't know how to express them. their opinions are shaped by things like social context, upbringing, and personality.

philosophy serves the same purpose as modern television "news": people are going to enjoy what reinforces their already held beliefs and not be convinced by anything else. they already have their camp.

i disagree

reading all that poo poo as a teenager growing up and ruminating on it all and thinking for myself helped me form my worldviews. I think you're right that there are people who just want their own poo poo validated or who have formed their own opinion, but to say that all people already have a formed opinion about all those things is kind of silly imo.

without western philosophy there is arguably no western liberalism in the sense that we'd all still be serfs running around with lords and knights like it's Westeros and time just doesn't change for hundreds of years.

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
i continue to study philosophy independently to develop my own ways of being int he worldfPHAAAAARRRFPFPHFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFART

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
one thing i have learned from philosophy is that it is always important to gently mock even your most cherished beliefs

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

oh my god i need this i need to give this to everyone i know for christmas


conshoemerism :)

extra stout posted:

i really think what happens here is people do not like zizek because he is too popular or they think he is trying too hard to make psychology or even just historical analysis 'cool', but i think his references are not to prove he can reference things and i find them genuinely humbling, he is very often admitting he is not the first person to notice a trend or invent a concept, and is just trying to bring a big collection of ideas to a young audience in a way they will hopefully understand

whether you like or hate slavoj it is unfair to blame him for the clothing, pot addiction, or impressions done by his fans

if he didnt engage with a wider audience no one would know him at all, and that's a problem with philosophy. what good is a philosopher if his only audience is other philosophers?

like he says, it's the job of a philosopher to define the problems we are facing today, while the university system is increasingly focused on producing specialists who can solve problems formulated by a small elite whose first priority is keeping themselves wealthy and powerful.

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Nov 5, 2015

mysterious frankie
Jan 11, 2009

This displeases Dev- ..van. Shut up.
as far as critical theorists go, slavoj is one of the saner ones. zizek's main problem, besides his hardcore fans, is that he's the sort of slob who thinks wiping a hot pocket under each armpit in order to wipe away the rank before devouring it is "hygiene". every third crit theorist's page in wikipedia ends with something like "... troubled career cut short after feeding spouse into combine and committing suicide with hammer and sickle." by that metric he is doing very well, regardless of how much he looks like a hairy blobfish.

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


KaptainKrunk
Feb 6, 2006


continental and analytic philosophy are both great and everyone should just really get along

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extra stout
Feb 24, 2005

ISILDUR's ERR

LegoPirateNinja posted:

if he didnt engage with a wider audience no one would know him at all, and that's a problem with philosophy. what good is a philosopher if his only audience is other philosophers?

like he says, it's the job of a philosopher to define the problems we are facing today, while the university system is increasingly focused on producing specialists who can solve problems formulated by a small elite whose first priority is keeping themselves wealthy and powerful.


this is a pretty common problem with success and cool factors in music and film and poo poo to, but gently caress it we like what we like, philosophy is extremely hosed in the sense that aside from making GBS threads into your toilet there are very few things that all of humanity approaches at least to some degree every day of their life, but then we still don't manage to focus on it quite enough to really have "philosophers", maybe the egotistical nature of man is satisfied by both asking and quickly answering questions about the more confusing issues in life

diogenes supposedly was approached by alexander at least twice, but obama doesn't know who slavoj zizek is, the dumb fukkr


just wanna say this got a big fuckin laugh out of me

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