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twoday posted:- The Azores were an outpost of the Carthagian Empire. Do you have a better source than that? Googling just returns a bunch of psuedo-archaeology/ancient aliens sites and I'm not great at reading Portugeuse but looking at APIA's site they seem to be a tiny amateur organization that holds to a lot of fringe theories. To contribute, the earliest recorded workers' strike is found in Egyptian documents recording the progress of the building of the pyramids. The artisans were receiving late and smaller than promised rations and refused to continue work until they were paid in full and the rations started arriving on time. A Fancy 400 lbs has a new favorite as of 03:33 on Nov 5, 2015 |
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During one of Egypt's many rebellions against Achaemenid rule, the rebels hired a group of Athenian mercenaries who sailed up the Nile to help in the defense of the Egyptian capitol. When they were routed, the mercenaries started to sail back down the Nile to the sea, but were eventually forced onto an island in the Nile where they formed a thick, nearly impenetrable defensive line around the island with their boats and they holed up for months waiting for the Persians to give up and leave. The Persians, however, had a different plan. Their engineering corps dug canals to reroute the Nile around the section with the island, allowing the Persian soldiers to simply walk past the now beached ships and slaughter the Athenians. To be fair to the mercs, it was a good plan if they weren't going against the one group of people who were both angry enough at the Greeks and technologically competent enough to drain the loving Nile to win.
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Aesop Poprock posted:Trying to correct facts in this thread is a fools errand. I was gritting my teeth reading through that one dudes post about ancient Egypt being a progressive wonderland for women To be fair, we tend to overplay West Asian/North African misogyny and underplay European misogyny in the West when it comes to talking about antiquity. Most places in the ancient world were wonderlands for women compared to Athens, for one of the big examples. One commonly held Athenian medical belief was that women were men who failed to develop all the way and that periods were failed sperm formation. Women were only legally allowed to make transactions for about two handfuls of grain, and only with the permission of their male guardian. They were expected to only leave the house veiled, and unless it was something like an evacuation only for weddings, funerals and if their husband/father was feeling nice, to come with him to visit one of his male friends' households. Funerals were actually one of the most common places for women to meet the man they would marry because of this. Women also generally weren't trusted to cook or do housework since they were considered too stupid to do those. Obviously this got less intense as you got further into the countryside away from the central city, where women going outside and helping around the house was required if you wanted to actually get stuff done, and there were exceptions, but the traditional female roles in Athenian society were pretty terrible even by the standards of their times.
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The true origin of Tumblr nose revealed.
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Shang bronzes are awesome, but Yoruba and Edo bronzes from west Africa will always be my favorites. Yoruba bust, ~11th-14th century CE  Edo statue of a Portuguese soldier, 17th century CE  Edo plaque of king with attendants, 16th century CE. This one is about 20x14 inches/50x40 cm Nowhere near as old, but absolutely amazing artwork.
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Then it's true, only the good die young.
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He wasn't a full blown Nazi, but when you look at his record as the head of the Inquisition, he was still a regressive far-right rear end in a top hat who loved to scream about the dangers of Marxism and working with people of other faiths.
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Opposition to and suppression of Liberation Theology is one of if not the biggest failure of the Catholic Church in recent history.
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Arctic Baldwin posted:I bet it was over a pair of fly-rear end prehistoric Nikes 10k years ago is right about when we started seeing the earliest shoes/sandals, so that is actually a possibility, albeit a very very unlikely one.
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A large part of the death and devastation caused by the diseases wasn't directly from people catching the disease and dying, but from the knock on effects of the initial dead, ie food shortages caused by trade disruption, raiding for supplies, etc. So when people say 90-95% of the indigenous American population died because of Smallpox and the like, it doesn't mean every single one of those people, or even a majority of them, caught the disease and died, but what they did die from was a direct consequence of many other people dying to the disease.
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DavidAlltheTime posted:This has no connection I could tease out from the West Indian dance style/rhythm of the same name. How disappointing. Etymonline says that they're related linguistically through the chain: Beguine -> Beghard -> beggaert -> béguin -> beguine
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UV2wRCcWJa8 William Jennings Bryan recorded a portion of his Cross of Gold speech for its 25th anniversary in 1921. It's probably nowhere near as good as the original, since he was a quarter century older and speaking for studio equipment instead of a huge crowd during a tense political convention, but it's still amazing to be able to hear him deliver it.
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The first patent for a door knob(as in the type you have to turn to open, not just a handle shaped like a knob) was awarded in 1878.
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coronatae posted:Is it too late for more Chinese eunch facts? Imperial China's greatest explorer was a court eunuch! Zheng He had a hell of a fleet at his command. Zheng He had a lot of cults spring up around him in Chinese diaspora communities in the countries he visited after his death, since honoring the spirits of great men isn't exactly uncommon in Chinese folk religion. Zheng He was a Muslim though, as was much of his crew, since they were Huihui, the descendants of Islamic Arab and Persian traders who married into Chinese families. Imagine having to explain that to your jealous, monotheistic god. 
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If we're going for multiday deaths, Smallpox wins every time. Just in the last hundred years before it was eliminated by vaccines, it beat out war. Not one specific war, or even all wars in those 100 years, but every war in human history combined. It was around for ~10k years even before that, so war has some catching up to do.
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Ancient historians loved casting aspersions on the sex life of their enemies and their enemies' families as it called into question their lineage and therefore their position in society while simultaneously being really embarrassing to even just publicly deny. It's basically "When did you stop beating your wife?" taken to the next level.
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To be fair, there have been plenty of western books, movies and plays based on her too.
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I think the guy who got a boner whenever a V2 launched probably helped too.
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Speaking of things that happened way later than people would think, the last independent Mayan state, Chan Santa Cruz, only became part of Mexico in the early 1900s after the British dropped their informal alliance with them.
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Platystemon posted:Oxford University was founded before the Aztec Empire. Yeah, but the Aztecs had state funded primary education for all children about 400 years before the British. 
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tacodaemon posted:New York City was founded eight years after Shakespeare died. Cleopatra lived closer to the present day than she did to the building of the Great Pyramid.
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Mary Shelley's mother was famous early feminist writer Mary Wollstonecraft. I always used to get them switched around in my head, and when I realized they were mother and daughter I felt a lot better about it.
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Crow Jane posted:DC is still a putrid swamp in the summer, though. But isn't that when Congress is on break?
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The podcast ArchyFantasies has some decent episodes on Connecticut history including the Barkhampstead Lighthouse and vampire burials since one of the hosts is a prominent skeptic and archaeologist from Connecticut. You may know him as the guy who goes on all the lovely History channel psuedohistory shows to explain why they're dumb and that Plato made up Atlantis as a metaphor.
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Nth Doctor posted:This reminds me of another language problem. The language known as Ayapa Zoque/Ayapaneco is thought to have only two remaining native speakers: Manuel Segovia (b. ~1936) and Isidro Velasquez (b. ~1942). The two did not get along, and didn't speak to one another for decades which frustrated anthropologists and linguists to no end. Seriously? From the Wikipedia article you linked in the same post: quote:In 2010 a story started circulating that the last two speakers of the Ayapaneco language were enemies and no longer talked to each other. The story was incorrect, and while it was quickly corrected it came to circulate widely.
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