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Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
Every since downton abbey has been a hit pbs has been trying to find the next big historical soap opera and they all have the same characters

*male lead who at first seems like an rear end in a top hat but is oddly modern
*female lead who is progressive, but not in a radical way, but in more of a "give a disapproving look at racism or sexism" way
*racial minority, either really smart or has secret skills but keeps head down
*lower class radical that loves younger sister of female lead
*scheming old lady
*scheming lady same age as female lead who sucks at schemes
*secret gay character

The worst one so far is Indian Summers. Its absolute poo poo, the show is shot so poorly its like they gave a bunch of 6 year olds a camera.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M77IfQc7JbU


PBS is actually making their own historical drama now, its called Mercy Street and its about a civil war hospital. Oh that is another thing about these shows, so many them also double as medical dramas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dcFGBk1INg

i don't know why i keep watching these shows. there is something incredibly funny about them to me i guess. i think its how the writers seem to be thinking "oh god, people were such poo poo back then, but me, I am better"

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Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
im the scheming old oval office

Nckdictator
Sep 8, 2006
Just..someone
I watched the first two episodes of Copper and it was pretty much all those characters.

FedEx Mercury
Jan 7, 2004

Me bad posting? That's unpossible!
Lipstick Apathy
Having gay people in history is very important for the homosexual reframing of modern society.

Creamed Cormp
Jan 8, 2011

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
*Old rich man with absurd facial hair walks in, says something about negros, women, jews, chinamen and the irish being untrustworthy subhumans*

wow this historical drama is so good and accurate, it's like I've been transported to 1652 1776 1862 1915 1976 2003 !

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax
Well, he isn't entirely wrong about the Irish.

Smelly Bohemian
Aug 20, 2015

by Lowtax
This is heterophobia and reverse racism.

Rambling Robot
Sep 13, 2011
Duggar Fan Club Superstar #1 LOL
im the gay one in the historical drama 19 Kids and Counting.

Flavahbeast
Jul 21, 2001


gandalf

a shiny rock
Nov 13, 2009

im the hot servant

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich
I'm the one who gets raped for the sake of drama

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

notZaar posted:

Having gay people in history is very important for the homosexual reframing of modern society.

Also if the main characters catch the person being gay they smirk and shake their head and wink or something instead of being appalled and reporting them to the buggery police or whatever

Hometown Slime Queen
Oct 26, 2004

the GOAT
This lady is going to have a baby. Uh oh! Something might be wrong with the baby!

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

Aesop Poprock posted:

Also if the main characters catch the person being gay they smirk and shake their head and wink or something instead of being appalled and reporting them to the buggery police or whatever

TBF back then it was harder to tell when someone was being gay because men held hands and hung out naked and stuff in a non sexual/romantic context.

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

QUEEN CAUCUS posted:

This lady is going to have a baby. Uh oh! Something might be wrong with the baby!

Not shown: the eight other babies she had that straight up died.

Microwaves Mom
Nov 8, 2015

by zen death robot

QUEEN CAUCUS posted:

This lady is going to have a baby. Uh oh! Something might be wrong with the baby!

no baby is fine. better kill the husband on the way there.

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
I'm the handsome poor guy despite having no conceivable access to basic hygiene

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
Hello m'lady I'm just a humble peasant *camera zooms in on perfect white bleached teeth*

Applewhite
Aug 16, 2014

by vyelkin
Nap Ghost

CharlestonJew posted:

I'm the handsome poor guy despite having no conceivable access to basic hygiene

I'm the ladies' shaved legs.

dZPnJOm8QwUAseApNj
Apr 15, 2002

arf bark woof
waiting on that uncompromising dramatization of the Rothschild family in 1810

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe
I like when they shoehorn in actual historical figures with the subtlety of someone dropping a teakettle full of marbles down a flight of stairs.

Boardwalk Empire was extremely good at this.

Tender Bender
Sep 17, 2004

Did Mad Men get another gay guy after Don fired the first one and he was last seen trolling for dudes at a truck stop?

Testikles
Feb 22, 2009
Isn't Indian Summers a porn star? If it's not somebody should be a porn star named Indian Summers.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL
i love you op :3:

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Tender Bender posted:

Did Mad Men get another gay guy after Don fired the first one and he was last seen trolling for dudes at a truck stop?

yeah, Bob Benson, con artist extraordinaire

Testikles
Feb 22, 2009
Googled it. Her name is India Summer.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
i wanna say that was about the time when people started wailing about "ewwwwww the 70s are here" when the show was still at 1966 or something ridiculous like that


i think there's probably a huge untapped market for doing another period drama of similarly high-quality costuming and set dressing, but set firmly in the 50s or even late 40s. people would eat that poo poo up.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl
in before the first predictable deprecating remarks about the woman pictured above

Roy
Sep 24, 2007
I'm the secretly gay character of gbs

plain blue jacket
Jan 13, 2014

IT DOESN'T STOP
IT NEVER STOPS
I'm the guy who is upset about gays becoming increasingly popular in pop culture

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.
i like obligatory gay characters in principle because it's cool when the media i consume acknowledges that people like me exist, but in practice they're usually jsut there to fill a quota. boring assholes with no character arc who disappear unceremoniously either for entire scenes or just altogether

except omar and kima. and rawls holy crap did you guys know rawls was in the background of one of the gay bar scenes? that adds such a weird dimension to his character.

the wire's a historical drama right

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
im the belgian assassin who masquerades as a detective

Tolkien minority
Feb 14, 2012


no ones gay on the knick
completely unrelated to that it is the best historical drama on television

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

gay people didn't exist before 1910

Roy
Sep 24, 2007

ArmZ posted:

gay people didn't exist before 1910

Not true. If you read Plato's Symposium you'll see that the entire culture of the west is founded on being a boy hungry paedophile

plain blue jacket
Jan 13, 2014

IT DOESN'T STOP
IT NEVER STOPS

ArmZ posted:

gay people didn't exist before 1910

I keep telling people this

ArmedZombie
Jun 6, 2004

Roy posted:

Not true. If you read Plato's Symposium you'll see that the entire culture of the west is founded on being a boy hungry paedophile

just because you are gay doesn't mean you are a pedo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roy
Sep 24, 2007

ArmZ posted:

just because you are gay doesn't mean you are a pedo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe not today, but in ancient Greece...

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
I'm the newly installed telephone episode where someone doesn't know how one uses it, and then calls it a device of torture.

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Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Profondo Rosso posted:

no ones gay on the knick
completely unrelated to that it is the best historical drama on television

thanks for the info i like to keep my dramas sexually pure

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