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precision posted:There's a fairly robust Golden Dawn presence in the area here, and yet all they ever want to do is drink absinthe and eventually wander off in pairs (or more) to gently caress. That's why I decided to try the A.'.A.'. instead of the OTO, which I was afraid would be more about socializing than doing any actual work. The A.'.A.'. is more of a personal system of growth, which forbids you from knowing and fraternizing with other members other than the adept that you're working with directly, whose job it is to just bring you through the grades and offer their guidance when it's needed.
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I was reading the book about Current 93, Nurse With Wound and Coil the other day and there's a funny anecdote where a girl introduced herself to David Tibet by saying that she wanted to talk about chaos magic with him, and he said that chaos magic was bullshit because if it works then why are all the practitioners unemployed dudes with no girlfriends living in squats?
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Does anyone else find the Weiser catalogues the worst thing ever? I click it and I just start pawing mindlessly at my screen at all the books I can't afford. It's like dangling meat in front of a starving dog.
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I'm reading Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton WIlson who's one of the guys who wrote the Illuminatus Trilogy and invented discordianism and it's one of those ~unlocking your true mind powers~ books except it's really great and funny and it constantly references Finnegans Wake. Every chapter has exercises at the end with instructions like "become a Nazi for thirty three minutes" and "take a kung fu course for 3 months and then read this chapter again"
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CestMoi posted:I'm reading Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton WIlson who's one of the guys who wrote the Illuminatus Trilogy and invented discordianism and it's one of those ~unlocking your true mind powers~ books except it's really great and funny and it constantly references Finnegans Wake. If you like that you should check out Coincidance which covers a range of topics but also focuses a lot more on Finnegans Wake, I really enjoy Wilson's take on that book even though I don't agree with all of his interpretations.
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CestMoi posted:I'm reading Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton WIlson who's one of the guys who wrote the Illuminatus Trilogy and invented discordianism and it's one of those ~unlocking your true mind powers~ books except it's really great and funny and it constantly references Finnegans Wake. Every chapter has exercises at the end with instructions like "become a Nazi for thirty three minutes" and "take a kung fu course for 3 months and then read this chapter again" I have recently discovered Robert Anton Wilson and I'm soaking up everything I can by the guy. His genuine optimism about everything is really endearing. I'm on the last book of Illuminatus! and I just started Cosmic Trigger the other day too. PR is probably next on my list. YouTube has a pretty great documentary on him called Maybe Logic which is a pretty great watch of you wanna just watch him talk about all the usual Wilson themes. It also ends with him battling post-polio syndrome and fighting for his right to use medical marijuana, yet in spite of all the bullshit near the end of his life he's pushing an agenda of love and compassion so passionately that it's really hard not to fall for the guy. Also, Explains Everything seems like it would be right up your alley. It's in the first or second chapter where he really geeks out about his love for Joyce and FW and Ulysses.
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I recently picked up the Taschen book on Alchemy & Mysticism on the advice of this thread, so just wanted to thank the OP for posting it. The book is both informative and beautiful.
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May 5, 2016 16:12
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On that note here is a press I stumbled upon with bunch of interesting (and pricey) books: http://www.threehandspress.com/index.php
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I don't know how well this lines up with the thread's interests, but among Rudolf Steiner's many theories he formulated a very esoteric form of farming called biodynamic agriculture, which was in many ways a precursor to the contemporary organic farming boom. The full biodynamics, which involves astrology and sympathetic magic very obviously, never really caught on. But it's recently made a huge comeback among wine growers across the world, to the point that the most expensive wine in the world, Domaine de la Romanee Conti, farms biodynamically. There's a p. good book that came out in 2011 with the p. bad title Voodoo Vintners discussing the principles behind it and also tracing it's growth among french growers and later on american vintners if that sounds like an interesting story. Worth reading just to see how far it's spread among an unlikely group of people, even with people who wouldn't normally embrace the occult.
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It's mentioned in The Professional Chef, one of the most used culinary textbooks, to make organic look reasonable without sounding biased.
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Biodynamic agriculture is very common where I am, but that's because anthroposophy has a major presence locally. Well, as major as it has anywhere.
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I'm really excited to find a thread like this! I've been getting really interested in the psychological aspects of ritual and magic - especially thanks to John Michael Greer, who (next to his pretty impressive peak-oil/energy blog Archdruidreport) also hosts a second blog focused on spirituality, occultism and magic(k) -"the Well of Galabes". He's been going over the basics of occult thought and ideas there and one central citation that I've already read in this thread now - that "magic is the art and science of causing changes in consciousness in accordance with will" has really struck a nerve with me. Seeing that the discussion is touching on the connection between sprituality and ecology: I have not started reading it yet, but I have one of Greer's spiritual books in my hands that deals with this topic: Mystery Teachings of the Living Earth. An Introduction to Spiritual Ecology looks promising and I'm excited to give it a read. Would any of you have reccomendations for more occult literature with a stronger focus on nature, earth, and 'ecology' in the largest sense? Already thanks for Steiner - a few of my aquaintances went to 'Waldorf schools' created following Steiner's teachings, but I am not familiar with his actual writings. SavageGentleman fucked around with this message at 17:54 on May 20, 2016 |
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w/r/t Steiner, I've only read How To Attain Higher Worlds (it has several titles along these lines) and it was very useful in the beginning for me when I was starting to get into this stuff. Blavatsky was also a Theosophist/spiritualist and her works like Isis Unveiled and The Secret Doctrine were huge influences in spiritual and occult culture. I've never read anything regarding ecology and spirituality specifically, but there's all sorts of wiccan/pagan/druidy (i dont know anything about these though) type stuff that seem to be more emphatically tied to nature then your typical occult works. But, on the other hand, it's heavily implied in just about any spiritual teachings that how you interact with your environment, your harmony with your surroundings, is directly tied to your spiritual condition. The eastern Taoist/Confucianism works use a lot of language that references nature. For the psychology side, Jung's writings on Alchemy and the I Ching are very interesting and try to face the subject from a western scientific approach, well, as well as Jung is able to do such a thing. Robert Anton Wilson's Explains Everything, Cosmic Trigger, and Prometheus Rising all approach occult subjects with a healthy dose of skepticism and scientific method. He was a friend and contemporary of Timothy Leary, and he adopted Leary's 8-circuit model of consciousness as a framework with which to view occult rituals and methods and their affects on consciousness (he was actually pretty dedicated to explaining all human phenomenon through this model, and imo he was pretty successful. He constantly stresses though that it's only a model). It's interesting to note that Leary jokingly referred to himself as the reincarnation of Aleister Crowley, as he saw himself carrying on the work that Crowley started and promulgated. Lil Mama Im Sorry fucked around with this message at 00:14 on May 21, 2016 |
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For anybody that lives in the Southern California area, the Getty has a fairly large alchemy exhibit right now, probably will for some time too. http://www.getty.edu/research/exhibitions_events/exhibitions/alchemy/tour/index.html It's free!
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Solvent posted:For anybody that lives in the Southern California area, the Getty has a fairly large alchemy exhibit right now, probably will for some time too. This looks really cool and if you go definitely report back. I'm gonna be making a thread update at some point about postmodern/Chaos magic. I'm still going through a lot of the foundational works though.
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Looking forward to that.
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Oh I did. It was spectacular. There's a few Getty press occult books in the gift shop worth checking out. The actual exhibit was interestingly focused on philosophic alchemy, and the roots of chemistry, as well as the religious tie ins. If you're looking for chaotes, a large number of disinformation cats hang around Russell Kirkby and Paul Nott's chaos magick group on Facebook.
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Solvent posted:Oh I did. It was spectacular. There's a few Getty press occult books in the gift shop worth checking out. The actual exhibit was interestingly focused on philosophic alchemy, and the roots of chemistry, as well as the religious tie ins. I believe I'm already a member. They have an excellent .pdf library too.
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Is there a good book on the history of witches and witchcraft? I'm looking for something like a compendium of beliefs and practices, firsthand historical accounts, maybe with cool old woodcut illustrations or something like that.
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:I'm gonna be making a thread update at some point about postmodern/Chaos magic. I'm still going through a lot of the foundational works though. Any comments on the Pepe/kek chaos magick meme theory that's making its way around the internet?
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Origami Dali posted:Is there a good book on the history of witches and witchcraft? I'm looking for something like a compendium of beliefs and practices, firsthand historical accounts, maybe with cool old woodcut illustrations or something like that. What's a witch? My own experience has taught me to be specific. When you go looking for witches, you're likely to find stuff about women tortured to death in late 17th century Massachusetts, for owning property and not feeling the need to marry. If you're looking for cool woodcuts, art history books are the place to go. That alchemy and mysticism book has a few, pretty much everything else is just mainstream art now. Morning Bell posted:Any comments on the Pepe/kek chaos magick meme theory that's making its way around the internet?  I miss the Ellis sigil. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_(sigil)
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 (just a pretty 'star' version, I'm not really sure the symbolism extends to the Trump presidency) Welp, welcome to Trumpland. How do you react to these news? Just keep on working? Preparing for new witch hunts in the next decade?
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Morning Bell posted:Any comments on the Pepe/kek chaos magick meme theory that's making its way around the internet? To paraphrase John C Lilly: when you start paying attention to Cosmic Coincidence Control Center, it definitely appears like CCCC starts paying extra attention to you. The theory of "meme magic" kinda makes sense within the realm of chaos magic, and it's just dumb enough to have some sort of psychological basis behind it... I don't doubt that there's people out there who believe in it enough that they are altering their reality with it, I just don't think they're altering capital R Reality as much as they think they are. If there's one thing I've learned from this election though, it's that people, atheists and magicians alike, are still superstitious as gently caress. Lil Mama Im Sorry fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Nov 18, 2016 |
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Lil Mama Im Sorry posted:To paraphrase John C Lilly: when you start paying attention to Cosmic Coincidence Control Center, it definitely appears like CCCC starts paying extra attention to you. I don't think a japanese noise band is paying much attention to anyone to be honest
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The first book I read on any of this was Book of Lies (not the Crowley one) It's sort of babby's first guide to occult thought and is a collection of essays/writing by modern practitioners. The one that really opened my eyes, or rather confirmed my own belief, was the essay by Genesis P-Orridge about the power of art and how even small fragments of a whole carry with it all the experience associated with it. I guess hearing such an insight sort of made me look at stuff like advertising in a whole new light as possibly one of the most pervasive and sinister practitioners of magick out there.
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CestMoi posted:I'm reading Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton WIlson who's one of the guys who wrote the Illuminatus Trilogy and invented discordianism and it's one of those ~unlocking your true mind powers~ books except it's really great and funny and it constantly references Finnegans Wake. Every chapter has exercises at the end with instructions like "become a Nazi for thirty three minutes" and "take a kung fu course for 3 months and then read this chapter again" His Reality Tunnel (aka Belief System) stuff was pretty big for me when I was in high school - thanks for the documentary link! edit: holy poo poo at the Harambe joke 9 mins and change into that documentary when he's talking about making everyone a pope over the TV because the Catholic Pope had decided to permit indulgences over the television - I totally forgot King King died for my sins, I forgot a lot of his stuff coyo7e fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Robert Anton Wilson is pretty much one of my favorite people ever. Amor et Hilaritas.Robert Anton Wilson from Cosmic Trigger posted:“Only after weeks had passed did I begin to think that I had, rather absent-mindedly, passed through what mystics call “the dark night of the soul,” or “crossing the abyss.” Whatever one calls it, I reached a depth of despair and deliberately decided to love the world instead of pitying myself; and, afterwards, I was no longer afraid of anything." The end of Cosmic Trigger made me cry. It's heartbreaking. I've gone through most of his non-fiction by now and my favorites are probably CT 1-3, Quantum Psychology, and Email to the Universe. I highly recommend the sufi heart chakra exercises he demonstrates at the end of the Maybe Logic documentary. It's been super useful for me. Lil Mama Im Sorry fucked around with this message at 04:10 on Nov 20, 2016 |
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Origami Dali posted:Is there a good book on the history of witches and witchcraft? I'm looking for something like a compendium of beliefs and practices, firsthand historical accounts, maybe with cool old woodcut illustrations or something like that. I will recommend Rossel Hope Robbins' 'The Encyclopedia of Witchcraft and Demonology'. It's a bit dated and I feel it has some anti-Catholic bias, but it's bursting with illustrations and it has a lot of translated trial records and such. If you want information on modern practices such as Wicca or other non-Wiccan Craft (Cochrane, etc, although let's be honest, Cochrane wouldn't have got anywhere without Valiente) then let me know and I'll see what I can find.
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