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Melmac posted:The most LIEberal state in the union, New York, does not have a state-wide animal abuser registry. In fact, only two parts of NY state does: Albany and Long Island. Government registries are just a conduit for corruption. Guess who is going to maintain the registry? Any bets on the private company that maintains the registry being the only company licensed to maintain the registry, and the ceo of that company being good friends with some legislature?
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Nov 11, 2015 20:58
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Powercrazy posted:Government registries are just a conduit for corruption. Guess who is going to maintain the registry? Any bets on the private company that maintains the registry being the only company licensed to maintain the registry, and the ceo of that company being good friends with some legislature? Red State 101 bby
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Nov 11, 2015 21:05
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This obviously just means Tennessee has a beastiality / barn animal rape problem that is endemic. ya'll motherfuckers need JESUS
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Nov 11, 2015 22:47
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well i always kill my prey beforehand to avoid getting put in the registry. should work the same with this new animal abuse one
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Nov 11, 2015 23:12
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Melmac posted:1) You can make this argument for literally any crime (having a criminal record makes it harder to get a job, this is nothing new to this particular law)
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Nov 12, 2015 00:03
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Making someone unemployable is even more of a punishment to their children and (maybe) spouse than it is to them - the chance of them getting a reasonable education is dashed and they may be forced onto the streets. Or resort to a life of crime to pay the bills. When you permanently brand people as worthless scum, they tend to be left with little incentive to reform. Plus, denying people human dignity has never been proven to have any legitimate deterrent effect. If this registry were available only to those with a solid logical need for it (say, anyone who'd hire people to work with animals or sell/adopt them as pets), then there'd be no problem.
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Nov 12, 2015 01:24
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Melmac posted:3) Are there people that previously stomped puppies and drowned kittens who later went on to be reformed and upstanding members of the community? 
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Nov 12, 2015 01:40
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Drowning kittens is an important component of controlling the pet population.
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Moridin920 posted:This obviously just means Tennessee has a beastiality / barn animal rape problem that is endemic. Actually, it has more to do with cock fighting, though for some reason the state won't make torturing chickens a felony.
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Nov 12, 2015 01:46
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Super progressive Tennessee! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tennessee_Marriage_Protection_Amendment 81%. Haha. The South is poo poo.
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Nov 12, 2015 02:12
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Powercrazy posted:Government registries are just a conduit for corruption. Guess who is going to maintain the registry? Any bets on the private company that maintains the registry being the only company licensed to maintain the registry, and the ceo of that company being good friends with some legislature? I dunno For the New York ones I looked up the Nassau County and Albany County ones and both were run by the government. Not a company. He's a piece of poo poo but not really comparable to people who torture for fun; he at least had financial incentive. I still hope someone gives him a debilitating spinal injury tho. Yes I am a wishing terrible bodily harm to a  precious human life and am putting animals above humans or whatever the gently caress someone's going to tell me next.Cockmaster posted:Or resort to a life of crime to pay the bills. When you permanently brand people as worthless scum, they tend to be left with little incentive to reform. Plus, denying people human dignity has never been proven to have any legitimate deterrent effect. I don't put puppies and kittens above humans. I do put them above child molesters, animal abusers, rapists, and murderers though. I unironically get more upset if I hear about a dog or cat being tortured than I do about a child raper being tortured and L O loving L if you don't too. I also don't get the "resort to a life of crime to pay the bills" thing. Yes you have a point for burglars and home-invaders. What the hell crime is a puppy-stomper going to resort to? Stomping puppies for money? Reforming a thief = understandable. "Reforming" guy who lit cat on fire to watch it die in agony while he masturbates = lol good luck with that. He'd be president of a local Citibank branch if it weren't for "the government" holding him back! The job market is full of people who DON'T cum when they torture housepets and stay animals. They should be chosen first imho. Johnny Aztec posted:Edit: Where in AR did you live, OP? I'm over in Jonesboro. Little Rock.  I also lived in Richmond, Virginia for all of 3 months.
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I'm the "progressive" who dislikes capitalism for all the suffering it causes people, except when it's people I don't like and their immediate families, in those cases, it's good. You're a coward. Human lives are more valuable than animal ones, period. Some people abuse animals and manage citibanks already and while I'm not going to hang out with them, I'm not going to hurt their children on purpose either.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:57
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I'm the "progressive" who dislikes capitalism for all the suffering it causes people, except when it's people I don't like and their immediate families, in those cases, it's good. You're a coward. Human lives are more valuable than animal ones, period. Some people abuse animals and manage citibanks already and while I'm not going to hang out with them, I'm not going to hurt their children on purpose either. "This guy robbed a liquor store at gunpoint. However, we cannot jail him because he will then not be able to provide for little Sarah".
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Nov 12, 2015 03:59
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What if I stomp a kitten while robbing a liquor store
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The NFL immediately drafts you.
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That's my point though - the consequences of this law are a worse life for the abuser and the abuser's family, most of whom don't deserve to have capitalism's worst inflicted on them. If your point is that we should evaluate that harm when considering every prison sentence and not just animal abuse ones, well, I agree. I just think this law makes this one thing worse, and do more harm than good.Melmac posted:"This guy robbed a liquor store at gunpoint. However, we cannot jail him because he will then not be able to provide for little Sarah". Yes, I would, in fact, consider the effect it has on little sarah when selecting a prison sentence for her armed robbery dad.
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Nov 12, 2015 04:03
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Human lives are more valuable than animal ones, period. lol just making sure. This guy:  is more valuable than these guys:  lol
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sorry dude sometimes I do a bunch of pushups and go into gbs and I post angry and I just have destroy the OP with uppercuts and spinning backkicks, namaste
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Nov 12, 2015 04:16
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No problem man. I haven't worked out my gross, sweaty body since Firefly was on the air. But what I do know is that when most people have a kid, then they get a nice swift kick in the rear end that says "you're an adult now and must provide for your little one", and that usually includes things like no longer buying Star Wars merchandise, reducing the amount of money spent on reckless gambling, working full time, and not doing things that land you on an offender registry.
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Nov 12, 2015 04:23
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If a serial killer used this database in selecting victims and you were on the jury,
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Nov 12, 2015 04:30
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DreadLlama posted:If a serial killer used this database in selecting victims and you were on the jury, Juror intimidation is a crime and he'd be unable to seek gainful employment.
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Nov 12, 2015 04:58
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:That's my point though - the consequences of this law are a worse life for the abuser and the abuser's family, most of whom don't deserve to have capitalism's worst inflicted on them. If your point is that we should evaluate that harm when considering every prison sentence and not just animal abuse ones, well, I agree. I just think this law makes this one thing worse, and do more harm than good. first time offenders are only on the list for two years so stfu idiot
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Wow this thread started out as poo poo and got shittier. Even my lovely threads are better than this. Piss fart gay cuck
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