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Levitate posted:Really poo poo D and a poor bottom six? The bottom six has actually been playing better than the top six.
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Vincent Van Goat posted:How do you choke a team this stacked with offense to 1 shot in a period? Does MJ huff glue during days off? Is it too much to hope Jimmy runs downstairs to fire him before the intermission is over? Pay attention to how many zone entries are either dump ins or plays along the boards vs the middle of the ice. fake edit: this season is going to be the long slog until 2016-17 where we have New Penguins Head Coach Guy Boucher. I for one can't wait.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:22
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Levitate posted:Really poo poo D and a poor bottom six? The bottom six is actually really good this year. Lws are kinda weak but bonino and cullen are legitimately a clear improvement over the guys they've replaced and pretty much every one of the penguins right wingers could reasonably play in the top 6
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Nov 12, 2015 03:22
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Pornographic Memory posted:The bottom six is actually really good this year. Lws are kinda weak but bonino and cullen are legitimately a clear improvement over the guys they've replaced and pretty much every one of the penguins right wingers could reasonably play in the top 6 Healthy Bennet and Sprong are also miles ahead of the useless shambling corpses we had as bottom sing wingers. And Fehr.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:23
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Pornographic Memory posted:The bottom six is actually really good this year. Lws are kinda weak but bonino and cullen are legitimately a clear improvement over the guys they've replaced and pretty much every one of the penguins right wingers could reasonably play in the top 6 Cool so it seems like the coach should design a strategy around the D making short, easy passes to the forwards who then break the puck out rather than relying on a weak defense to make the breakout and then focus either on a heavy forecheck or controlled entries I take it this is not the case
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Nov 12, 2015 03:24
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I'm going to take a shot every time someone makes a lovely argument for changing goaltender equipment again. I'll be dead before 10pm someone call 9-1-1
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Nov 12, 2015 03:24
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Im pretty sure sprong would have been playing on malkin or crosby's wing if he was on last season's team
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Nov 12, 2015 03:25
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Letting the young guys into the defense and spending on forwards was absolutely the right move but Poulliot having a lovely camp and an insistence on playing Scuderi all the drat time has hampered them. On the other hand their offensive zone system loving blows.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:25
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The Penguins were poorly managed the whole way through, Sid/Geno/Letang were hurt a lot. The players didn't underachieve
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Nov 12, 2015 03:26
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INSPECTAH DECK posted:The Penguins were poorly managed the whole way through, Sid/Geno/Letang were hurt a lot. The players didn't underachieve Yeah nobody thinks this but morons.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:27
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INSPECTAH DECK posted:The Penguins were poorly managed the whole way through, Sid/Geno/Letang were hurt a lot. The players didn't underachieve Jim Rutherford once gave Eric Staal an $8.something mill long term contract
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Nov 12, 2015 03:28
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Levitate posted:Cool so it seems like the coach should design a strategy around the D making short, easy passes to the forwards who then break the puck out rather than relying on a weak defense to make the breakout and then focus either on a heavy forecheck or controlled entries All things up the boards all the time every time. 4 players below the dots at all times basically as well in the D zone.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:28
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I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Mike Milbury Send help
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Nov 12, 2015 03:28
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Cassie stop distracting BG with talk of the WC team :|
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Nov 12, 2015 03:28
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Vincent Van Goat posted:I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Mike Milbury kill yourself
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Levitate posted:Would Pens fans rather have Byslma back at this point Oh gently caress yes. Levitate posted:Really poo poo D and a poor bottom six? No, that was last year. The bottom six and the non-Scuderi defensemen have been drat good this year. Of course it's early and injuries haven't thinned 'em out yet. And Cole is going downhill fast, I don't know if he's playing with an injury or what's going on with him but he's been bad the last few games. But I don't see that having him play with Maatta or whoever instead of Letang would make matters any better. Levitate posted:Also hiring Jim Rutherford as your GM was a dumb move Come on, how could ownership have known that hiring the architect of a team that reached the playoffs 3 times in 12 years wouldn't work out?
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Nov 12, 2015 03:29
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Fallout goons, I was reminded that Fallout4 is set in Mass. Does TD Garden make an appearance, and if so do I get to nuke it? That may make me re-install the game.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:29
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Levitate posted:kill yourself should I start with my famil?
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Nov 12, 2015 03:29
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Vincent Van Goat posted:I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with Mike Milbury I sort of I agree but neither of those things would have happened if the boarding had been called.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:30
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cenotaph posted:Letting the young guys into the defense and spending on forwards was absolutely the right move but Poulliot having a lovely camp and an insistence on playing Scuderi all the drat time has hampered them. On the other hand their offensive zone system loving blows. Yeah i dont really have a problem with how the roster is constructed, its not perfect but shero left some bad contracts and a lot of defense prospects so thats kind of the natural direction to take it. Johnston just runs a system totally counter to that roster though
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Nov 12, 2015 03:31
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Levitate posted:It's such a drastic change to the game and would gently caress with every goaltender that it seems a bit too far to go...I know the reasoning, it's not totally insane, but man it just feels like a fundamental change that would create a lot of issues and I'm not sure I'd find it more exciting to watch a bunch of goalies be out of position and fail to make saves because they're not used to net size. Eh, I'm kinda the opposite on this, I'd rather just enlarge the net a little bit and be done with it than try to have some kind of 3-in-the-key rule or outlaw defenders intentionally sprawling to block shots or the other kinds of poo poo people suggest. Or the refs could get a remedial course in hooking and holding and interference and actually, y'know, call those penalties. Call me crazy but I think if you want a bit more offense, that just might be crazy enough to work.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:32
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Pornographic Memory posted:Yeah i dont really have a problem with how the roster is constructed, its not perfect but shero left some bad contracts and a lot of defense prospects so thats kind of the natural direction to take it. Johnston just runs a system totally counter to that roster though I'm not even sure what the hell his system actually is. It seems to be lean back and play defense whether winning or losing. I'm still pissed that they decided to go with an untested coach, yet passed up Hynes.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:33
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I still don't get why people are still down on Rutherford, at least based on his tenure in Pittsburgh. I think he's done a fantastic job of securing scoring depth for the team, and all his signings and trades (minus Despres for Lovejoy) have either broken even or been a plus for the team.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:35
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Eric the Mauve posted:Eh, I'm kinda the opposite on this, I'd rather just enlarge the net a little bit and be done with it than try to have some kind of 3-in-the-key rule or outlaw defenders intentionally sprawling to block shots or the other kinds of poo poo people suggest. The way players can basically get away with holding by basically slapping a stick against another player and holding it there without actually hooking them seems to cause a lot of problems getting off good shots IMO. Like, it's not really hooking but you smack your stick into their hands/stick and hold it there and it's hard to get off a shot but as long as you didn't actually get the blade of your stick stuck up in their hands it's not illegal Tying up guys with your stick has become a really big way to slow people down or prevent passes/shots/chances and the refs let it go
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I don't give a poo poo about scores. Scoring chances and great play, even defensive play, is more exciting to me than the score at the end of the game.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:35
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Reminder Pittsburgh is entering the 3rd period trailing and thusly will lose. for the millionth time.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:37
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Reminder Pittsburgh is entering the 3rd period trailing and thusly will lose. for the millionth time. Haven't won since January 2014
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It all depends on the game A tight 1-0 game is way more fun than a 10-9 laugher A 10-9 laugher is way funnier than a tight 1-0 game Then you have the 1-0 games that are just trap and dump/chase which everyone should complain about but has nothing to do with goaltender equipment I'd rather have a tense game than a dumpster fire, but sometimes you need the latter. As long as it's not your team 
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Reminder Pittsburgh is entering the 3rd period trailing and thusly will lose. for the millionth time. Don't you try to pull this voodoo 
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rex rabidorum vires posted:Reminder Pittsburgh is entering the 3rd period trailing and thusly will lose. for the millionth time. Plus the Habs cleverly let the Penguins reach their preset goal limit early so as not to have to worry about getting scored on for the rest of the night
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Nov 12, 2015 03:40
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Man, the pens are flying, they've already tied their shot total from last period!
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Martytoof posted:Don't you try to pull this voodoo I'm not  it was a realzation I had as I poured another beer realizing there is no real reason to watch this period.
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Martytoof posted:Don't you try to pull this voodoo It's not voodoo, it's accepted outcome for Penguins fans.
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Why do play-by-play guys insist on screaming "WHAT A GREAT STOP BY $GOALIE!!!!" every time someone gets a scoring chance but shoots the puck right into the goalie's logo? Because play-by-play guys always do that and it's kind of infuriating.
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Nov 12, 2015 03:42
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Martytoof posted:It all depends on the game The worst games are when one team scores like 4 or 5 in the first period and then coasts the rest of the game and the other team is like "I guess we'll pretend we still have a shot but don't really care"
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Martytoof posted:Does TD Garden make an appearance, and if so do I get to nuke it? No. I also can't find the original Boston Garden, so you can't even nuke that. (to go further, it's basically like Bethesda completely forgot that sports that aren't Baseball exist and have massive stadiums that - like major shopping centers and government offices - are built to withstand the Sun exploding). Levitate posted:The worst games are when one team scores like 4 or 5 in the first period and then coasts the rest of the game and the other team is like "I guess we'll pretend we still have a shot but don't really care" No, the worst games are when your team scores one or two goals in the first period and then coasts the rest of the game regardless of what the other team does.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Why do play-by-play guys insist on screaming "WHAT A GREAT STOP BY $GOALIE!!!!" every time someone gets a scoring chance but shoots the puck right into the goalie's logo? Because play-by-play guys always do that and it's kind of infuriating. Those are probably the definition of a "great" stop since the goalie was in place and doing what he's supposed to. When goalies make a toe save or rob someone coming across the crease those are "great" saves too, but it all depends on how you define great.
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Schlesische posted:No, the worst games are when your team scores one or two goals in the first period and then coasts the rest of the game regardless of what the other team does. Every Penguins game?
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Martytoof posted:Those are probably the definition of a "great" stop since the goalie was in place and doing what he's supposed to. Yes but when a defenseman is in place and doing what he's supposed to and deflects the shot away it gets casually mentioned but the PBP guy never jumps from his seat shrieking about it. Levitate posted:The worst games are when one team scores like 4 or 5 in the first period and then coasts the rest of the game and the other team is like "I guess we'll pretend we still have a shot but don't really care" While the leading team isn't even pretending to try to score for the remaining 40+ minutes Or actually with most NHL coaches right now, this happens anytime they have any lead at all
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Eric the Mauve posted:Why do play-by-play guys insist on screaming "WHAT A GREAT STOP BY $GOALIE!!!!" every time someone gets a scoring chance but shoots the puck right into the goalie's logo? Because play-by-play guys always do that and it's kind of infuriating. The positioning! (Some of them are those ridiculous JUST SHOOT THE drat PUCK shots, but for some of them... you put a beer league goalie in net, do you still think it's going to hit the crest?) Mage_Boy posted:Every Penguins game? Well if Michel Therrien can make an about face and have it stick (it's stuck for like 15 games, I'm giving it no more than 50, but we'll see) then there's hope for MJ yet!
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