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RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe
http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2015/11/beware-of-ads-that-use-inaudible-sound-to-link-your-phone-tv-tablet-and-pc/

quote:

Cross-device tracking can also be performed through the use of ultrasonic inaudible sound beacons. Compared to probabilistic tracking through browser fingerprinting, the use of audio beacons is a more accurate way to track users across devices. The industry leader of cross-device tracking using audio beacons is SilverPush. When a user encounters a SilverPush advertiser on the web, the advertiser drops a cookie on the computer while also playing an ultrasonic audio through the use of the speakers on the computer or device. The inaudible code is recognized and received on the other smart device by the software development kit installed on it. SilverPush also embeds audio beacon signals into TV commercials which are "picked up silently by an app installed on a [device] (unknown to the user)." The audio beacon enables companies like SilverPush to know which ads the user saw, how long the user watched the ad before changing the channel, which kind of smart devices the individual uses, along with other information that adds to the profile of each user that is linked across devices.

The user is unaware of the audio beacon, but if a smart device has an app on it that uses the SilverPush software development kit, the software on the app will be listening for the audio beacon and once the beacon is detected, devices are immediately recognized as being used by the same individual. SilverPush states that the company is not listening in the background to all of the noises occurring in proximity to the device. The only factor that hinders the receipt of an audio beacon by a device is distance and there is no way for the user to opt-out of this form of cross-device tracking. SilverPush’s company policy is to not "divulge the names of the apps the technology is embedded," meaning that users have no knowledge of which apps are using this technology and no way to opt-out of this practice. As of April of 2015, SilverPush’s software is used by 67 apps and the company monitors 18 million smartphones.

this is some of the device information that can be pushed back to their servers; remember, this is all up to whoever developed the app you have installed:



for the technologically inclined there is a git repo d0tslash on twitter is working on decompiling this, his work can be found [HERE]

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Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!
Wedge Regret
Oh I thought you were talking about the boy in the barbie commercial

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

Edgar posted:

Oh I thought you were talking about the boy in the barbie commercial

what

The Puppet Master
Apr 9, 2005

Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.



i can't wait for the eventual leak and we find out how much gay porn the most conservative politicians look at

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

the future scares me

ANIME IS BLOOD
Sep 4, 2008

by zen death robot
loving smartphones

Jack the Stripper
Feb 9, 2014

Your local cheese loving, wooden shoes wearing drug addict.

symbolic posted:

the future scares me

Don't worry kebab is tasty.

CuRvY G0oNeTTe
Oct 30, 2015

by Lowtax
Lipstick Apathy

Edgar posted:

Oh I thought you were talking about the boy in the barbie commercial

Unsurprisingly he was with the black barbie. White gay men have been appropriating black female culture for millennia

symbolic
Nov 2, 2014

Jack the Stripper posted:

Don't worry kebab is tasty.
kebab is pretty good, though i haven't had it in forever

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
i leave my phone in my car when I get home from work and my PC has no speakers - just headphones which aren't even plugged in half the time

what now ad fags

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 17:25 on Nov 17, 2015

Jack the Stripper
Feb 9, 2014

Your local cheese loving, wooden shoes wearing drug addict.

symbolic posted:

kebab is pretty good, though i haven't had it in forever

Go get sum, but note that the sellers always try to rip you off by "misunderstanding you" or "making a calculation mistake". It's cute to see them try so hard for a few extra cents though.

Elusif
Jun 9, 2008

Moridin920 posted:

i leave my phone in my car when I get home from work and my PC has no speakers - just headphones which aren't even plugged in half the time

what now ad fags

thanks sovereign citizen guy

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
they even made a hit telev ision show to make themselves look more sexy

HATECUBE
Mar 2, 2007

dont forget that your car is a loving smartphone too

if you have anything more advanced than a radio tuner in your dashboard i recommend you rip the loving thing out

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
LOL

wtf this is dystopian

i love it

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
can they make my phone broadcast a sound that will make me poop????????

FlimFlam Imam
Mar 1, 2007

Standing on a hill in my mountain of dreams

Moridin920 posted:

i leave my phone in my car when I get home from work and my PC has no speakers - just headphones which aren't even plugged in half the time

what now ad fags

You're my favorite character on King of the Hill.

HATECUBE
Mar 2, 2007

i didnt make that radio poo poo up, i just worked on them

if you aren't the customer, you're the product

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
in a few years it will actually make sense to wear faraday cage clothing items such as tinfoil hats

nomadologique
Mar 9, 2011

DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO
i have a lead box, 10" walls, with several combination locks and a dead lockout if it's disconnected from my independent diesel generated grid

i put my phone in there whenever i'm not using it (i never use it)

rejutka
May 28, 2004

by zen death robot
Obviously this does not violate data protection laws although it sounds like it should.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
people called me paranoid for buying a new pay-as-you-go phone every 6 months with cash, whos laughing now?!

not me that for sure, gently caress this surveillance future :(

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

Rutibex posted:

people called me paranoid for buying a new pay-as-you-go phone every 6 months with cash, whos laughing now?!

not me that for sure, gently caress this surveillance future :(

it's hosed because this technology probably has much better/more ethical applications but it's being used to fatten someone's pockets instead

literal scumbags

The Skeleton King
Jul 16, 2011

Right now undead are at the top of my shit list. Undead are complete fuckers. Those geists are fuckers. Necromancers are fuckers. Necrosavants are big time fuckers. Skeletons aren't too bad except when they bleed everyone in the company. Zombos are at least not too bad.


Oh capitalism, what won't you violate or destroy?:allears:

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug
This is the kind of thing you shouldn't really need to care about if not for how incompetent companies are with personal data. I don't really care that much if companies find ways to target their marketing to me easier but what does concern me is the possibility of these places getting hacked and people with far more malicious intent having way more info about me than they should.

EngineerSean
Feb 9, 2004

by zen death robot
I actually invented this technology, ask me anything.

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb
It's actually sad that people thought their internet connected devices weren't known to be associated by a single user.

TEAH SYAG
Oct 2, 2009

by Lowtax
Oh, how I love The Internet of Things, branded with the dumbest title ever for it's captivated millennial audience.

social vegan
Nov 7, 2014



procter and gamble sneak into ur room at night and push candle wax into ur loving ears so u buy all their cotton balls and q-tips i'm basically drowing in cotton over here op like i got a nimbus facial i look like i'm on the set for a philidelphia cream cheese commerical 24/7

ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

Salt Fish posted:

It's actually sad that people thought their internet connected devices weren't known to be associated by a single user.
Despite it being 2015 i actually use a hard connection for my computer and there is no wifi in my apartment. I also always use headphones with the computer so it looks like I unintentionally thwarted their dastardly plan.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
I don't think I've ever bought anything based on an advertisement

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe
Isn't this just like grocery store "cards" where they remember what you buy so they mail you lovely magazines like that?

Salt Fish
Sep 11, 2003

Cybernetic Crumb

ArbitraryC posted:

Despite it being 2015 i actually use a hard connection for my computer and there is no wifi in my apartment. I also always use headphones with the computer so it looks like I unintentionally thwarted their dastardly plan.

Have you ever logged into any google, microsoft, facebook, or twitter service with both devices?

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe
It's like big whoop advertisements, I'm still going to just ignore you everywhere.

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


TEAH SYAG posted:

Oh, how I love The Internet of Things, branded with the dumbest title ever for it's captivated millennial audience.

Is the internet of things something human beings want, or is it just soulless tech insects crawling around the muck that push for it?

Plus all the advertising companies and the NSA and all them.

SHISHKABOB
Nov 30, 2012

Fun Shoe

Best Giraffe posted:

Is the internet of things something human beings want, or is it just soulless tech insects crawling around the muck that push for it?

Plus all the advertising companies and the NSA and all them.

What is an internet of things. Is it the internet?

DEAD MAN'S SHOE
Nov 23, 2003

We will become evil and the stars will come alive
Really clever, hats off to the cunts.

This relies upon people buying/enabling poo poo they don't understand, and I'm glad there's a market for stuff for people that do understand that networking up hi-def sensors needs to be approached very carefully

ArbitraryC posted:

incompetent companies are with personal data

My favourite part is that leaked plaintext is basically untraceable to joe shmoe.

IIRC forums user Jamesface put in a fake middle initial to trace leaks, linked that back to the company who were suppsed to be safeguarding his details, and they basically stonewalled. Government regulators were of no help either

DEAD MAN'S SHOE fucked around with this message at 19:47 on Nov 17, 2015

Edgar
Sep 9, 2005

Oh my heck!
Oh heavens!
Oh my lord!
OH Sweet meats!
Wedge Regret
who cares if advertisers gather data on your habits. It's not like they are going to download naked pictures off your webcam and jack off in those big board meetings.

scuba school sucks
Aug 30, 2012

The brilliance of my posting illuminates the forums like a jar of shining gold when all around is dark

EngineerSean posted:

I actually invented this technology, ask me anything.

Would you kindly kill yourself by spooling barbed wire up your rear end then pulling it out slowly?

If not, why not?

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DEAD MAN'S SHOE
Nov 23, 2003

We will become evil and the stars will come alive

EngineerSean posted:

I actually invented this technology, ask me anything.

Can all speakers and mics handle ultrasound? Are there/will there be drivers that can prevent the processing of inaudible signals?

What other sources of ultrasound are available?

DEAD MAN'S SHOE fucked around with this message at 19:54 on Nov 17, 2015

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