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Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

nnnotime posted:

Well, that's surprising. Whether he's a scumbag or not, have to give him credit as you don't see many CEO-types putting themselves out there like that.

Honestly it seems like the precursor to a melt down of some sort. It seems like he's really upset that people don't like him.

quote:

Its so painful...huge losses..all my savings are gone..It was purely management's irresponsibility that made all of us loose money here..I have two little kids and when I see thier face this morning, I can't stop crying...very pathetic...

look I feel bad but this 'purely management's irresponsibility' thing irritates me. it's irresponsible to put all your savings in a speculative tech stock.


Flavahbeast posted:

why would you bet your whole savings on a single tech stock, why did so many people do that

fuckin' greed.

Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 05:13 on Nov 22, 2015

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Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec

Flavahbeast posted:

why would you bet your whole savings on a single tech stock, why did so many people do that

Hey baby, imagine if the stocks went up up up!!! That one person could have afforded the best care for their special needs kid possible!

Junkyard Poodle
May 6, 2011


For everyone interested in investing, get some reading in before you begin. Following a passive investment strategey (index funds) with a naive allocation (such as 60% equity and 40% fixed income (bonds)) that your re-balance one to four times a year will be a decent strategy. Lots of good info on it is out there. Some places to start is our own subforum or bogleheads.com (dedicated to the guy who started Vanguard)

If you're looking for more, consider value investing. Over time, it is really the only philosophy that has had long term success. There are tons of cavets so educate yourselft, or find a professional that has such a philosophy.

I recommend reading anything by Joel Greenblatt, Seth Klarman or Ben Graham as a begining to understand what value investing is.

Four other pieces of advice

1. If you don't understand it, don't touch it
2. Diversify your risk
3. Understand how behavior influneces the markets
4. Bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered (don't be greedy)

All in all, don't chase mythical riches with your hard earned monies, but investing is a good thing.

Junkyard Poodle fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Nov 22, 2015

let it mellow
Jun 1, 2000

Dinosaur Gum
so he wanted unlimited gains but limited losses

huh

Prorat
Aug 3, 2004

by FactsAreUseless
Invest in silver. Every electronic uses it and there is a finite amount. I will be worth more than gold and diamons one day.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Flavahbeast posted:

why would you bet your whole savings on a single tech stock, why did so many people do that

It's even worse when you consider that while all this was happening we were experiencing an incredible bull market. They could have invested in most anything and made money with far less risk.

And even if Apple had bought the sapphire screens...it's not like being an Apple supplier is the pathway to huge profits. Apple is brutal with its suppliers. Essentially you get lots of business at low margins that maybe gets you more business with other companies at higher margins.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Why not just Buy Low, Sell High?

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
I seriously get really happy reading stories about people doing ultra retarded poo poo with the stock market and losing their asses and jumping out of windows, post more.

red_dirt
Apr 26, 2014

by Shine

Flesh Forge posted:

I seriously get really happy reading stories about people doing ultra retarded poo poo with the stock market and losing their asses and jumping out of windows, post more.

I agree. Unfortunately (?) it's a zero-sum game. So for every financial schadenfreude story we get, some other rear end in a top hat(s) are raking it in with no effort and laughing at all us wage-slaves too scared to play the game. At least we're doing better than that particular "Jones" I guess.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
I spent all my savings on cured ham. Once ham prices go up... i'll be golden

Tactical Lesbian
Mar 31, 2012

I invested all of my savings into a dildo manufacturing plant. :science: How could it go wrong?

Fiend
Dec 2, 2001

Tactical Lesbian posted:

I invested all of my savings into a dildo manufacturing plant. :science: How could it go wrong?

For all the good that investment was, you could have shoved that money up yer arse.

Tactical Lesbian
Mar 31, 2012

Fiend posted:

For all the good that investment was, you could have shoved that money up yer arse.

Either way, the end result is the same.

Cool NIN Shirt
Nov 26, 2007

by vyelkin

Flavahbeast posted:

why would you bet your whole savings on a single tech stock, why did so many people do that

Plenty of morons make mistakes like that but usually when they're young and inexperienced

How the hell did this guy make it to 67 and not forget to stop breathing:

quote:

I am holding :
1. Because what is left is too little for me at my age (67) to build to anything significant elsewhere
2. I'm too ignorant in such matters to know if it is more wise to sell
3. There is too much uncertainty about what has or will happen
4. A life lesson I've learned is that if you don't know what to do at the time, the wisest usually is to do nothing

Staking your entire life savings into one stock no matter how promising isn't a mistake, thats willful ignorance

Tony Homo
Oct 30, 2014

by zen death robot
So is Vanguard the best place to start your stock market journey?

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec

Tony Homo posted:

So is Vanguard the best place to start your stock market journey?

Invest in gold. G. Gordon Liddy told me to do that on the television.

nnnotime
Sep 30, 2001

Hesitate, and you will be lost.

Professor Shark posted:

Why not just Buy Low, Sell High?
Because our monkey-like brains are hard-wired to do the opposite.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Tony Homo posted:

So is Vanguard the best place to start your stock market journey?

It's the best option until it isn't. There's no guarantee.

I got $500 for graduation that I put in a mutual fund that had ridiculously good returns with stable Fortune 500 stocks. Ends up I invested at the exact time they decided to both increase fees and poo poo themselves. I lost half my money. Sometimes you just aren't going to win, regardless of how much you plan.

Ivor Biggun
Apr 30, 2003

A big "Fuck You!" from the Keyhole nebula

Lipstick Apathy

Hector Beerlioz posted:

Invest in gold. G. Gordon Liddy told me to do that on the television.

I don't want to live in a world where you can't trust convicted felon G. Gordon Liddy

JnnyThndrs
May 29, 2001

HERE ARE THE FUCKING TOWELS
Jesus, that GTAT thread is loving awesome and gut-wrenchingly horrible at the same time.

I'm amazed at the number of people in that thread that didn't even understand what "bankruptcy" means in terms of common stock. There must have been twenty people that asked "so when can we start trading it again?".... and these are people who have their entire net worth in a rinky-dink speculative tech stock? That's insanity, we learned in eleventh-grade economics that common stockholders are the last people paid in bankruptcy proceedings.

I alternate between feeling bad for the old people and wanting to shake their liver-spotted heads "WHAT THE gently caress ARE YOU THINKING"

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Post more Wall Street horror stories stories so that every time I get tempted to look into gambling on the stock market I remember this thread and rear back as if physically struck. Thanks in advance.

Hector Beerlioz
Jun 16, 2010

aw, hec
What's hosed up about that investment website is thay users there can like posts but we here can't.

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Let's all take a break and listen to some awesome Bruce Springsteen

Nnep
Jun 17, 2007

3-2 2-0

Hector Beerlioz posted:

What's hosed up about that investment website is thay users there can like posts but we here can't.

Tactical Lesbian
Mar 31, 2012

if you like a poster enough you should sacrifice your shekels to Lowtax

all hail

A Neurotic Jew
Feb 17, 2012

by exmarx
http://forum.thecontrarianinvestor.com/index.php?threads/gt-advanced-technologies-inc-gtat.69/page-527#post-25571

quote:

This would be my last post on this forum. I am officially signing off. Thanks for all the contributions. I am still in shock and all the money is gone and I owe $107K in margin accounts. I have prepare my profit and loss for filing a case and here the final numbers. This is a lesson for everybody not to be greedy and stupid. These are just stocks, options of around $140K is not in there.

401K Account

9/10/14 82 $12.72 $1,043.03
9/10/14 300 $12.72 $3,814.50
9/3/14 325 $17.16 $5,578.37
8/26/14 4000 $18.57 $74,280.00
8/21/14 233 $17.75 $4,135.75
8/5/14 1168 $15.03 $17,555.04
8/5/14 1600 $15.02 $24,032.00
8/5/14 1166 $15.01 $17,501.66
8/5/14 5966 $15.00 $89,490.00
7/17/14 877 $14.28 $12,520.67
7/16/14 2600 $15.03 $39,074.10
7/15/14 2400 $15.35 $36,834.96
7/15/14 400 $15.51 $6,203.00
7/14/14 500 $15.39 $7,693.80
6/17/14 1040 $18.98 $19,735.66
5/12/14 560 $13.50 $7,559.16
5/9/14 500 $13.56 $6,780.00
5/8/14 400 $14.85 $5,940.00
5/1/14 160 $17.34 $2,774.38
5/1/14 120 $17.33 $2,079.60
4/30/14 120 $16.01 $1,921.19
4/30/14 200 $16.00 $3,200.00

Total in 401K $389,746.87

Brokerage Account

10/3/14 99 $11.01 $1,089.99
10/2/14 999 $9.84 $9,830.16
10/2/14 999 $9.92 $9,910.08
10/1/14 999 $10.07 $10,059.93
10/1/14 999 $10.35 $10,339.65
9/30/14 998 $10.85 $10,828.30
9/29/14 999 $11.52 $11,508.48
9/24/14 999 $11.56 $11,548.44
9/22/14 999 $10.88 $10,869.12
9/16/14 999 $11.60 $11,588.40
9/15/14 999 $12.00 $11,988.00
9/10/14 999 $12.79 $12,777.21
8/18/14 5000 $17.95 $89,750.00
8/5/14 5000 $15.00 $75,000.00
7/31/14 2000 $14.05 $28,100.00
7/16/14 2000 $15.03 $30,060.00
7/15/14 500 $15.34 $7,670.00
7/14/14 500 $15.39 $7,695.00
7/7/14 1000 $16.56 $16,560.00
6/17/14 1000 $19.00 $19,000.00
6/12/14 500 $18.48 $9,240.00
2/21/14 999 $12.24 $12,227.76
9/19/13 1000 $8.56 $8,560.00
8/20/13 1500 $6.33 $9,495.00

Total in Sharebuilder $435,695.52

Sharebuilder Sell:
10/6/14 -5088 $1.02 ($5,189.76)
10/6/14 -5000 $0.99 ($4,950.00)
10/6/14 -5000 $1.03 ($5,150.00)
10/6/14 -5000 $0.95 ($4,750.00)
10/6/14 -5000 $0.94 ($4,700.00)
10/6/14 -5000 $0.92 ($4,600.00)
9/11/14 -999 $13.69 ($13,676.31)
7/23/14 -1000 $14.80 ($14,800.00)

SUM ($57,816.07)

Charles Schwab Sell:
10/7/14 -4717 $0.99 ($4,652.38)
10/7/14 -10000 $0.99 ($9,881.00)
10/7/14 -10000 $0.98 ($9,837.00)

SUM ($24,370.38)


Basically my net loss is around $750K in stocks and $140K in options. All my earnings for the past 15 years are gone in one night.

All I can wish is, all of family members of TG and the crooked directors face some grueling death. Yesterday I was in the verge of committing suicide myself and with a loving family, I didn't have the courage. Good bye to all. Time to start Life 2.0

:wow:

kissekatt
Apr 20, 2005

I have tasted the fruit.

5

penus penus penus
Nov 9, 2014

by piss__donald
why would anybody give this idiot money for short selling and failing at it

ProperCauldron
Oct 11, 2004

nah chill
Some cool and good big words ITT

A nice reminder that not only does the bougeosie own and control all the money and the land, they own and control the language too

proof of concept
Mar 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Flavahbeast posted:

why would you bet your whole savings on a single tech stock, why did so many people do that

Boiler Room is a good movie

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

proof of concept posted:

Boiler Room is a good movie

Quick: Boiler Room OR Margin Call???

proof of concept
Mar 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
I've never seen Margin Call, does that one have Vin Diesel in it too?

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

No but it has Kevin Spacey, guy from The Mentalist, and the new Spock

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
Don't pick stocks, and really don't do what this guy did lol.

prinneh
Jul 29, 2005
prince of denmark
I have a very meager savings account that I just let rot in the bank, so it's always good when threads like this come around to discourage me from doing any investing, I'd be better off just blowing some money on a holiday.

Also thread made me watch Margin Call, fun movie.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

ProperCoochie posted:

Some cool and good big words ITT

A nice reminder that not only does the bougeosie own and control all the money and the land, they own and control the language too

poo poo everyone having a pension is bourgeoise, best kill our are selfs now

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Professor Shark posted:

No but it has Kevin Spacey, guy from The Mentalist, and the new Spock

The slimy blonde dude or the hilarious Asian dude?

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

The slimy blonde dude

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

prinneh posted:

I have a very meager savings account that I just let rot in the bank, so it's always good when threads like this come around to discourage me from doing any investing, I'd be better off just blowing some money on a holiday.

Also thread made me watch Margin Call, fun movie.

Don't think like that. Invest your money. If you don't know what you're doing then go speak to a bunch of Financial Advisors and pick one you like that understands what you're trying to have your money do. Think of investing as a way to preserve your money's value and not as a way to make you rich. After a few years you'll start to understand it better and be able to make informed decisions along with your FA. Finding the right person is the biggest part though. Don't settle, find someone you like and trust. Someone who let's you say "no" to them.

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T.S. Smelliot
Apr 23, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
Thanks to this thread I liquidated all in my savings account and put all of the money in Haitian penny stocks my investment will pay off anytime now

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