waitwhatno posted:

it takes 5 sec on google to find out how to encrypt your stupid terror plan messages and everyone had already been suspecting government mass surveillance for a long time at that point. seriously, if you can't be bothered to invest 5 sec into your jihad, you were never going to be the head of a major terror network anyway.

also, lol at the nSA trying to smear him at any opportunity they get. best part was when they casually mentioned that he once put a blanket over his screen, so he could jack off without his girlfriend seeing it. "Who would do such a thing?"

Pyroxene Stigma posted:

no you stupid piece of poo poo snowden assisted literally 0 people in viewing porn at work. Way to completely miss the loving point

(also everyone has smartphones now grandpa)

Pvt.Scott posted:

When your job is intelligence and surveillance, this is actually a big deal, though. It is literally someone's job to make sure that doesn't happen.

Dr Cheeto posted:

A bloo bloo bloo if you dislike our communication dragnet then you must love pedophilia
- The head of the NSA

fakiebeanplant posted:

the idea is that the Snowden leaks piqued the interest of:
a.) (some, not all terrorists) realizing that InfoSec is important to their success
b.) software developers thinking encrypted chat apps are the next silicon valley gold mine

Vince McMahon posted:

fakiebeanplant posted:

the idea is that the Snowden leaks piqued the interest of:
a.) (some, not all terrorists) realizing that InfoSec is important to their success
b.) software developers thinking encrypted chat apps are the next silicon valley gold mine


its an analogy; people in this thread cant connect the dots between sensitive information leaks and a subsequent decrease in NSA detection outcomes


Snowden should consider this defense in court; "I knew it was treason, but someone somewhere was employed to stop me and failed to do so"

ANIME IS BLOOD posted:

#rekt

fakiebeanplant posted:

at this point ill agree to disagree. i never even endorsed NSAs surveillance techniques, but i condemn the poo poo outta Snowden's actions. Police officers have a IQ score upper-bound on hiring, because its dangerous to have law-enforcing officers interpret the law how they see fit; the same can be said about Ed.

fakiebeanplant posted:

ANIME IS BLOOD posted:

"you see these byzantine and specific search queries graphed in isolation prove my point, vs these generalist queries that people might actually google"

ANIME IS BLOOD posted:

it's even funnier because your first graph spikes up in 2011, years before snowden was even a thing

ANIME IS BLOOD posted:

though I'm sure that's also due to snowden because he is basically the emanuel goldstein to you bootlicker fucks

snowden

waitwhatno posted:

Now try the same thing with the word "app" and think about what happened in 2011 with the smartphone/app market

Holy poo poo, I hope you are not really in the n§A, because people WILL die due to your stupidity and incompetence. Quit. Quit right now, as long as you still can.

fakiebeanplant posted:

there are no words

quote:

Greenwald began working with Snowden in either February or April 2013, after Poitras asked Greenwald to meet her in New York City, at which point Snowden began providing documents to them.

fakiebeanplant posted:

i apologize that the idea of encryption did not first appear in 2011, like I so vehemently posited earlier (according to you).

Clearly we can ignore the fact that queries for 'encryption' have doubled since the year of the Snowden leaks

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

Alright now can we run those graphs with sock fetish porn?

ClamdestineBoyster posted:

Alright now can we run those graphs with sock fetish porn?

fakiebeanplant posted:

i apologize that the idea of encryption did not first appear in 2011, like I so vehemently posited earlier (according to you).

Clearly we can ignore the fact that queries for 'encryption' have doubled since the year of the Snowden leaks

Dubplate Fire posted:

You've already lost the argument. Just stop you look like a loving idiot.

quote:

Rita Katz of the SITE Intelligence Group, which tracks jihadist activity online, said Isis and al-Qaeda have studied documents leaked by Snowden and articles based on the documents. Militants have posted tips on how to avoid NSA surveillance, such as how to register on Twitter without phone verification, she said.

She pointed to a discussion in a jihadist forum in October 2013 — at the height of the Snowden revelations — calling attention to an “important article related to Tor. Good read.”

One former senior intelligence official said he had operators report to him that “it’s getting harder for me to do my job because we’re seeing more of our targets using encrypted communications. Targets would cycle through different services and then disappear. We saw that quite a bit.”

In September, Clapper said that one Snowden revelation prompted the shutdown of a key intelligence program in Afghanistan. Though he did not give details, he was alluding to an NSA program that recorded all cellphone calls in that country and provided tactical support to troops, for instance, by alerting them to roadside bombs.

quote:

“After the leak, jihadists posted Arabic news articles about it … and recommended fellow jihadists to be very cautious, not to give their real phone number and other such information when registering for a website,” said Adam Raisman of the SITE Intelligence Group, a private analysis firm. They also gave out specific advice, recommending jihadists use privacy-protecting email systems like TOR, also called The Onion Router, to hide their computer’s IP address, and to use encrypted links to access jihadi forums, Raisman said. While TOR originally was designed to help dissidents communicate in countries where the Internet is censored, it is facing legal difficulties because criminals allegedly have used it as well.

“Overall, for terrorist organizations and other hostile actors, leaks of this nature serve as a wake-up call to look more closely at how they’re operating and improve their security,” Venzke said. “If the CIA or the FBI was to learn tomorrow that its communications are being monitored, do you think it would be business as usual or do you think they would implement a series of changes over time?”

The disclosure that intelligence agencies were listening to Osama bin Laden drove him to drop the use of all electronic communications.

“When it leaked that bin Laden was using a Thuraya cellphone, he switched to couriers,” said Jane Harman, former member of the House Intelligence Committee and now director of the Woodrow Wilson International Center. “The more they know, the clearer the road map is for them.”

Vince McMahon posted:

the results are in and they're not good

fakiebeanplant posted:

etalian posted:

NSA claimed Snowden destroyed their ability to gather intel, even though way before Snowden you had groups like Al Qaeda publishing guides on how to avoid western surveillance programs.

Any halfway competent terrorist organization is already aware of the risk of using things like cell phones or email to communicate.