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Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

I hate yankees posted:

Seems kind of problematic that the kids actions and decisions aren't phasing the Chicago black community

Yeah, I agree. The fact that a stupid teenager was high on drugs and had a pocket knife is the more important issue here.

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a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:

Lord Binky posted:

I'm white surprimisist

post a photo of yourself

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

Tortured By Flan

A misanthrope posted:

post a photo of yourself

alright here



no I did not get this picture by searching for fat stupid looking retard and then uploading the first result to imgur!!!!

a misanthrope
Jun 21, 2010

:burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug::burgerpug:
i will say one thing -- i like how so many people are jumping on the #nolivesmatter bandwagon, even if jokingly

gives me hope that more people are starting to come around to my point of view

Burt Sexual
Jan 26, 2006

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Switchblade Switcharoo

A misanthrope posted:

i will say one thing -- i like how so many people are jumping on the #nolivesmatter bandwagon, even if jokingly

gives me hope that more people are starting to come around to my point of view

I lost track, what wa that ?

Cool NIN Shirt
Nov 26, 2007

by vyelkin

A misanthrope posted:

yeah but a public defender an average poor person would have got wouldn't jump on any of that poo poo. it takes time and resources and a public defender aint got either for your broke rear end

No doubt. Robert Kardashian and Johnny Cochran did a masterful job.

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

That guy looks like someone put Eugene Mirman's head in a vice.

ruddiger
Jun 3, 2004

XMNN posted:

chicago pd was guantanamoing the poo poo out of black people in the 70s and 80s (and probably still)

Probably?

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/24/chicago-police-detain-americans-black-site

" The Guardian posted:


The disappeared: Chicago police detain Americans at abuse-laden 'black site'

The Chicago police department operates an off-the-books interrogation compound, rendering Americans unable to be found by family or attorneys while locked inside what lawyers say is the domestic equivalent of a CIA black site.

The facility, a nondescript warehouse on Chicago’s west side known as Homan Square, has long been the scene of secretive work by special police units. Interviews with local attorneys and one protester who spent the better part of a day shackled in Homan Square describe operations that deny access to basic constitutional rights.

Alleged police practices at Homan Square, according to those familiar with the facility who spoke out to the Guardian after its investigation into Chicago police abuse, include:

Keeping arrestees out of official booking databases.
Beating by police, resulting in head wounds.
Shackling for prolonged periods.
Denying attorneys access to the “secure” facility.
Holding people without legal counsel for between 12 and 24 hours, including people as young as 15.
At least one man was found unresponsive in a Homan Square “interview room” and later pronounced dead.

Brian Jacob Church, a protester known as one of the “Nato Three”, was held and questioned at Homan Square in 2012 following a police raid. Officers restrained Church for the better part of a day, denying him access to an attorney, before sending him to a nearby police station to be booked and charged.

“Homan Square is definitely an unusual place,” Church told the Guardian on Friday. “It brings to mind the interrogation facilities they use in the Middle East. The CIA calls them black sites. It’s a domestic black site. When you go in, no one knows what’s happened to you.”

The secretive warehouse is the latest example of Chicago police practices that echo the much-criticized detention abuses of the US war on terrorism. While those abuses impacted people overseas, Homan Square – said to house military-style vehicles, interrogation cells and even a cage – trains its focus on Americans, most often poor, black and brown.

read more...


and more fun reading

More than 80% of the thousands held at the Chicago police's 'black site' were black

Police ‘black site’ in Homan Square becomes major issue in Chicago mayoral race

Chicago police 'black site' evokes shady history

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
lol police are such scum

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

i couldnt remember if that was the nypd

proof of concept
Mar 6, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
I bet the NYPD has them too, just in cooler places like in abandoned subway tunnels way under ground instead of a surface building with a street address

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
it's neat how all the chicago protesters were totally peaceful except for the poet who punched the cop. talk about some "slam" poetry haha!!

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

If you don't support the CPD running a literal black site you shouldn't call the police should you find yourself the victim of a crime, HTH.

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
actually the cpd is super nice and cool and helpful if you're white and look like you have a job, so feel free to call the cops about things if that is your current situation.

Triamcinolone
Oct 18, 2009

wiffle ball bat posted:

actually the cpd is super nice and cool and helpful if you're white and look like you have a job, so feel free to call the cops about things if that is your current situation.

haha yeah the cops are great...IF YOU'RE WHITE *applause and knowing nods from the smart people in the audience*

Sponge Baathist
Jan 30, 2010

by FactsAreUseless
"White COPS drive like this": *hands on the wheel, eyes on the street scanning for black people*

" black COPS drive like this ": :sitting in back seat of squad car with two black eyes and a fat lip*

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine

Triamcinolone posted:

haha yeah the cops are great...IF YOU'RE WHITE *applause and knowing nods from the smart people in the audience*

they are though? there's a lot of danger and crimes in the city, it's good that the cops have your back if you meet the requirements for police protection. whats with the sarcasm

Cartouche
Jan 4, 2011

Going to throw this out there: The "teenager" was a waste long before the cop wasted him.

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine

Cartouche posted:

Going to throw this out there: The "teenager" was a waste long before the cop wasted him.

that is the huge issue here is that there's generations of poverty and drug addiction and bad education and violence and growing up in houses built with lead paint and lead pipes and lead everything else that everybody who grows up on the southside of chicago deals with because there are several different kinds of america and one of them is a hosed up third world shithole

meanwhile im up in a high rise beatin my dick off to high speed internet porn, the total first world experience.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Triamcinolone posted:

haha yeah the cops are great...IF YOU'RE WHITE

:lol: if you believe being white makes you immune to police brutality.

I mean, sure, being white buys you a lot of slack with the authorities and they'[re not going to blow your brains out literally two seconds after stepping out of their car, but at the end of the day police have nothing but utter contempt for "civilians."

The Taint Reaper
Sep 4, 2012

by Shine

Geoj posted:

:lol: if you believe being white makes you immune to police brutality.

I mean, sure, being white buys you a lot of slack with the authorities and they'[re not going to blow your brains out literally two seconds after stepping out of their car, but at the end of the day police have nothing but utter contempt for "civilians."

This is false, and even Donald Trump knows it's false

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine

Geoj posted:

:lol: if you believe being white makes you immune to police brutality.

I mean, sure, being white buys you a lot of slack with the authorities and they'[re not going to blow your brains out literally two seconds after stepping out of their car, but at the end of the day police have nothing but utter contempt for "civilians."

that's loving incisive duude, wow

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
i'm white and i was beaten by the police once.. yeah, beaten for best performance in an acapela group at the policemans ball!!

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
usually you gotta give the cops a reason to brutalize you when you're white like being drunk and mouthy

i saw a vid of some white kids getting beaten up for no reason in austin but it was weak poo poo like arm punches and titty twisters like how a big brother bullies his smaller brother

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

TEAH SYAG posted:

Since you probably have never been in the military, nor the police, and (I'm assuming) never been under fire, there isn't a lot of room for finesse when someone is shooting at you with a weapon that can kill you dead. Aim center mass. Its easy to armchair quarterback on any sunday.

Yes, the guy who quoted the field manual on short range marksmanship has never been in the military or under fire and therefore doesn't know what he's talking about. Let me quote the ARMY FM on SHORT RANGE MARKSMANSHIP for you one more time, shithead.

quote:

Although shots to the center of the body may prove to be eventually fatal, they may not immediately incapacitate the target. A shot that
does not immediately incapacitate the target may be no better than a clean miss.

And it's not armchair quarterbacking, when I was in Iraq in 2003, I was in a knife v. gun fight and didn't need to kill the other guy dead.

proof of concept posted:

Do you actually have a source to back this up because it would be cool if it were true but I have a hard time believing that it's actually true

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cfe_1440199540&comments=1

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
im white and was arrested by a policeman once....yeah, by a scintilating anecdote he told me at his birthday bbq!!

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
actually mutilation and maiming on purpose is a war crime

Orkin Mang
Nov 1, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

wiffle ball bat posted:

actually mutilation and maiming on purpose is a war crime

ur being dramatic. for all we know this black gentleman was hit by a solarflare, we should wait until the autopsy is done to see if his organs were steamed

momerath
Nov 15, 2014

proof of concept posted:

I bet the NYPD has them too, just in cooler places like in abandoned subway tunnels way under ground instead of a surface building with a street address

they do but its no secret

Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

.

wiffle ball bat posted:

actually mutilation and maiming on purpose is a war crime

Tell that to my necklace of ears.

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

wiffle ball bat posted:

actually mutilation and maiming on purpose is a war crime

Yeah, it is.

18 U.S. Code § 2441 - War crimes posted:

(E)Mutilation or maiming.—

The act of a person who intentionally injures, or conspires or attempts to injure, or injures whether intentionally or unintentionally in the course of committing any other offense under this subsection, one or more persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including those placed out of combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, by disfiguring the person or persons by any mutilation thereof or by permanently disabling any member, limb, or organ of his body, without any legitimate medical or dental purpose.

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine

My Q-Face posted:

Yeah, it is.

ok maiming and mutilation is chill as long as you start with it instead of finishing with it. gotcha. how does it feel to be right on the internet, q face?

My Q-Face
Jul 8, 2002

A dumb racist who need to kill themselves

wiffle ball bat posted:

ok maiming and mutilation is chill as long as you start with it instead of finishing with it. gotcha. how does it feel to be right on the internet, q face?

Pretty awesome.




58 hours is nowhere near enough time to get proficient with a firearm. This whole thing just stinks of :lol: we'll do the bare minimum to get by and call it a day :911:

If you've never seen the difference between German marksmanship and US marksmanship, it's truly a sight to behold. I watched an American soldier, using his own weapon, zeroed for him shoot a cluster of shots around the center mass of a target at 25 meters, with the rounds more or less randomly arrayed around the center. I watched his German counterpart come in, pick up the American's gun, and with no adjustments, shoot 30 rounds arranged like a grid into an almost perfect 5'x 8' rectangle.

My Q-Face fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Nov 28, 2015

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

wiffle ball bat posted:

usually you gotta give the cops a reason to brutalize you when you're white like being drunk and mouthy

I had two cops pull out of a parking lot right in front of me, had to slam on the brakes to avoid t-boning them and laid on the horn. They pulled a u-turn and pulled me over about four blocks later and proceeded to chew me out for about 20 minutes. The parting remark was "if I ever see you again I will put a bullet in your head."

I filed a complaint and the department's response was to sit on it for four months, at which point they sent a sergeant - who claimed to be the only guy who handles complaints - to speak with me, and he claimed he was out on "sick leave" when the complaint came in and by the time he got back and reviewed the complaint the dashcam footage had been overwritten and they had no choice but to close the investigation due to lack of evidence.

TL;DR cops fail to yield to oncoming traffic (me), pull me over, threaten to kill me on sight if they see me again and the department sits on the complaint until the camera footage gets rolled over and dismisses the complaint.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Geoj posted:

I had two cops pull out of a parking lot right in front of me, had to slam on the brakes to avoid t-boning them and laid on the horn. They pulled a u-turn and pulled me over about four blocks later and proceeded to chew me out for about 20 minutes. The parting remark was "if I ever see you again I will put a bullet in your head."

I filed a complaint and the department's response was to sit on it for four months, at which point they sent a sergeant - who claimed to be the only guy who handles complaints - to speak with me, and he claimed he was out on "sick leave" when the complaint came in and by the time he got back and reviewed the complaint the dashcam footage had been overwritten and they had no choice but to close the investigation due to lack of evidence.

TL;DR cops fail to yield to oncoming traffic (me), pull me over, threaten to kill me on sight if they see me again and the department sits on the complaint until the camera footage gets rolled over and dismisses the complaint.

lol idk what you expect to be honest

the police are scum

Dr.Mrs.The Monarch
Aug 8, 2005

Obamunist Troll Bot: Built to bring a One World Government to the People

The Zombie Guy posted:

I've had a police training officer tell me that once the decision to shoot has been made, training dictates that the officer shoot and keep shooting until the gun is empty.
I'm guessing that this is to make sure that a threat is neutralized for certain. In this situation, I think shooting in the first place was not a good idea.

In Toronto, there's a cop on trial right now for a very similar shooting. Cop fired multiple times into a knife - wielding teen, killing him. Said teen was in an empty streetcar and not a threat to anybody at that time. I doubt the officer will be found guilty, just as this one will probably get away with it too.

I know a guy who is a cop and the way he explained it to me is that in a stressful situation like that, you need fire at least 6 shots to make sure one hits so you just empty the entire clip, because by training once police decide to use a firearm its to only to kill. And yeah a lot of it is also the lazy legalism mentioned earlier.

momerath
Nov 15, 2014

My Q-Face posted:

Pretty awesome.


58 hours is nowhere near enough time to get proficient with a firearm. This whole thing just stinks of :lol: we'll do the bare minimum to get by and call it a day :911:

If you've never seen the difference between German marksmanship and US marksmanship, it's truly a sight to behold. I watched an American soldier, using his own weapon, zeroed for him shoot a cluster of shots around the center mass of a target at 25 meters, with the rounds more or less randomly arrayed around the center. I watched his German counterpart come in, pick up the American's gun, and with no adjustments, shoot 30 rounds arranged like a grid into an almost perfect 5'x 8' rectangle.

lol

i don't have any statistical backing to say it's completely true but almost every foreign military that i've met in the past is embarrassingly better trained than the typical us troop. i remember the british outshined us when it came to the training we were supposed to give them. i don't know if that holds true to every department, but just lmao at the incredible incompetency of a lot of us forces

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Moridin920 posted:

lol idk what you expect to be honest

the police are scum

Sorry, forgot to mention "I'm also white." Which (according to some posting ITT) should immunize me from such treatment by law enforcement.

wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine

Geoj posted:

Sorry, forgot to mention "I'm also white." Which (according to some posting ITT) should immunize me from such treatment by law enforcement.

honking=mouthy

should've shown some respect imo

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wiffle ball bat
Oct 2, 2015

by Shine
if you hurt a cops feelings in any way or annoy him slightly he will gently caress you up so just slap a bunch of sirs on everything you say and try to look appropriately cowed by his awe inspiring majesty

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