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rickiep00h
Aug 16, 2010

BATDANCE


Rand alPaul posted:

Anyone that doesn't vote for Alan Trammell is a bad voter. :colbert:

Glad I made it within these stringent guidelines.

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Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

rickiep00h posted:

Glad I made it within these stringent guidelines.

Way to be one of the good guys :thumbsup:

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Rand alPaul posted:

Anyone that doesn't vote for Alan Trammell is a bad voter. :colbert:

The fact that real voters keep crying about PEDs but not voting him in is shameful.

Pancakes
May 21, 2001

Crypto-Rump Roast
Alan Trammel made it onto even my small hall ballot because even though I'm a Cards fan I'm not entirely evil.

alansmithee
Jan 25, 2007

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!


The fact that Lou Whitaker got dropped off entirely is a bigger travesty.

DeepDickPizza
Oct 11, 2012

THREE TIME! THREE TIME!
I just put together a ballot in like 5 minutes. Hope my cursory glance at stats to validate my gut feelings didn't gently caress up!!!

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

DeepDickPizza posted:

I just put together a ballot in like 5 minutes. Hope my cursory glance at stats to validate my gut feelings didn't gently caress up!!!

These ballots are the most fun to look at so don't worry about it :)

Explosionface
May 30, 2011

We can dance if we want to,
we can leave Marle behind.
'Cause your fiends don't dance,
and if they don't dance,
they'll get a Robo Fist of mine.


DeepDickPizza posted:

I just put together a ballot in like 5 minutes. Hope my cursory glance at stats to validate my gut feelings didn't gently caress up!!!

You actually looked at stats? That's more than I did!

iKickDogs
Aug 31, 2001

Explosionface posted:

You actually looked at stats? That's more than I did!

I only used dumb stats I could almost remember. Like how Billy Wagner struck out more than one batter per inning and allowed less than one base runner per inning over 900 or so innings, and how maybe he was the only pitcher to do that over a significant amount of innings when he retired.

Might be true. Got my vote.

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

tadashi posted:

The fact that real voters keep crying about PEDs but not voting him in is shameful.

Yeah it goes to show how full of poo poo those writers are. A lot of them voted in Barry Larkin who has nearly identical numbers to Trammell's.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Thanks for voting, everyone! I'll post the results sometime on Friday. Final ballot count was 103 :woop:

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

IcePhoenix posted:

Thanks for voting, everyone! I'll post the results sometime on Friday. Final ballot count was 103 :woop:

How many of these where blank Pete Rose protest ballots? I'm guessing over 90.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

Popete posted:

How many of these where blank Pete Rose protest ballots? I'm guessing over 90.

Everyone who didn't fill in the form is a Pete Rose protest ballot. So that's like 7.2 billion.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

Lumpy posted:

Everyone who didn't fill in the form is a Pete Rose protest ballot. So that's like 7.2 billion.

I think my dad's ballot would be Lee Smith and then all the other votes for "Screw Pete Rose" if that helps.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

I'm probably going to put Rose on the ballot next year since Manfred made it pretty clear that even though he's banned from baseball he doesn't care what the HoF does. I mean, I'm not going to vote for him but I may as well give people the option.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

80 WAR through age 38, including a >3 WAR year at that age and 45 WAR between 30-38, is a pretty good case for the HoF.

Tony Phillips
Feb 9, 2006

IcePhoenix posted:

I'm probably going to put Rose on the ballot next year since Manfred made it pretty clear that even though he's banned from baseball he doesn't care what the HoF does. I mean, I'm not going to vote for him but I may as well give people the option.

Can there just be a new SAS can vote for permanently ineligible players if they see fit? All aboard the Rose and Jackson poo poo storm.

I just want to vote for Hal Chase.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Tony Phillips posted:

Can there just be a new SAS can vote for permanently ineligible players if they see fit? All aboard the Rose and Jackson poo poo storm.

I just want to vote for Hal Chase.

Yeah, sure, why not. Outside of Shoeless Joe and Rose who else was banned?

e: actually after looking it up I'm just gonna leave it at Rose. Also seeing that Mantle and Mays were banned for two years in the 80s was kind of interesting.

IcePhoenix fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Dec 31, 2015

Tony Phillips
Feb 9, 2006

IcePhoenix posted:

Yeah, sure, why not. Outside of Shoeless Joe and Rose who else was banned?

e: actually after looking it up I'm just gonna leave it at Rose. Also seeing that Mantle and Mays were banned for two years in the 80s was kind of interesting.

There's nobody else that I'm aware of that would ever have a realistic shot. Cicotte had a pretty decent career, and Hal Chase was supposed to be some defensive wizard, but neither would ever make it.

tadashi
Feb 20, 2006

IcePhoenix posted:

Yeah, sure, why not. Outside of Shoeless Joe and Rose who else was banned?

e: actually after looking it up I'm just gonna leave it at Rose. Also seeing that Mantle and Mays were banned for two years in the 80s was kind of interesting.

Mays and Mantle worked for AC Hotel/Casinos. They left their jobs working with MLB teams to do it. AC didn't have a sportsbook at the time and they weren't allowed to bet in the casinos because they were employees. It was kind of just Kuhn being a dick.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Something kind of funny about the ballots this year is that there was nobody who had a vote percentage in the 10s, 20s, or 30s.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

:siren: RESULTS :siren:

Ken Griffey Jr. 99.03%
Edgar Martinez 88.35%
Mike Mussina 84.47%
Mark McGwire 79.61%
Tim Raines 77.67%

--------------------------------------------------
Curt Schilling 72.82%
Alan Trammell 69.90%
Gary Sheffield 67.96%
Sammy Sosa 47.57% :rip:
Jim Edmonds 45.63%
Trevor Hoffman 44.66%
Billy Wagner 43.69%
Jeff Kent 40.78% :rip:
:rip::rip::rip::rip::rip:
David Eckstein 5.83%
Jason Kendall 5.83%
Mike Sweeney 4.85%
Randy Winn 4.85%
Garret Anderson 2.91%
Brad Asmus 2.91%
Luis Castillo 2.91%
Troy Glaus 2.91%
Mark Grudzielanek 1.94%
Mike Hampton 1.94%
Mike Lowell 1.94%


Here are the ballots

Congrats to the SAS Hall of Fame Class of 2016!

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




IcePhoenix posted:

Gary Sheffield 67.96%

Good, gently caress Gary Sheffield.

Also whoever didn't vote for Griffey needs to be publicly shamed.

Tavarin
May 10, 2003

I am definitely a madman with a box

Infidel Castro posted:

Good, gently caress Gary Sheffield.

Also whoever didn't vote for Griffey needs to be publicly shamed.

I won't bother posting his name since it's in the linked spreadsheet, but I will post his ballot.

quote:

Brad Asmus, Mike Hampton, Billy Wagner

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Infidel Castro posted:

Good, gently caress Gary Sheffield.

Also whoever didn't vote for Griffey needs to be publicly shamed.

Not only that but he submitted his ballot on CHRISTMAS

Pancakes
May 21, 2001

Crypto-Rump Roast

IcePhoenix posted:


Curt Schilling 72.82%


Proud to be a member of the gently caress Schilling crowd.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

Infidel Castro posted:

Good, gently caress Gary Sheffield.

Also whoever didn't vote for Griffey needs to be publicly shamed.

CaptainYesterday, commence the mob justice.

zakharov
Nov 30, 2002

:kimchi: Tater Love :kimchi:

IcePhoenix posted:


Alan Trammell 69.90%

Nice

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.

Pancakes posted:

Proud to be a member of the gently caress Schilling crowd.

:hfive:

Rand alPaul
Feb 3, 2010

by Nyc_Tattoo

You suck and so does SAS.

Pancakes
May 21, 2001

Crypto-Rump Roast

Rand alPaul posted:

You suck and so does SAS.

The result sucks, Trammel belongs in the Hall. That being said, I guarantee SAS gives Trammel a higher percentage than the writers.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Pancakes posted:

The result sucks, Trammel belongs in the Hall. That being said, I guarantee SAS gives Trammel a higher percentage than the writers.

he went up a bit from last year so he still might get in on his last chance next year (I know this is his last year in the real world but I'm ignoring that because the real world uses Dumb and Bad rules)

It's real silly that Jeff Kent won't get that chance though

Ready! Set! Blow!
Jun 17, 2005

Red alert.

Pancakes posted:

The result sucks, Trammel belongs in the Hall. That being said, I guarantee SAS gives Trammel a higher percentage than the writers.

Trammell is at 47% in public votes so far in the tracker, and he hasn't had any real split between public and private ballots in the past. At the very least, he'd be pretty well set up for the VC's Expansion Era ballot, assuming the Hall (a) ever figures out that they basically made it mathematically impossible for the VC to elect anyone and (b) decides to change that.

Ready! Set! Blow! fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jan 2, 2016

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
The Hall knew from the beginning that it was impossible for the current iteration of the VC to elect anyone, and did it that way intentionally.

New Concept Hole
Oct 10, 2012

東方動的
Eckstein only received 6 votes :wtf:

Pancakes
May 21, 2001

Crypto-Rump Roast

New Concept Hole posted:

Eckstein only received 6 votes :wtf:

I love Eck. He earned that WS MVP. He's easily one of the coolest eligible players, from his Parks and Rec fake ad to the fact that a large part of his time is spent working for his wife's geek clothing company now. He was a great value player. He also had fewer WAR in 10 seasons of play than Edmonds produced from 2000 to 2003 alone. I can justify not voting for Schilling because I hate him because in my mind he's an otherwise-marginal case. I can't justify voting for Eck despite how much fun he is. The numbers just aren't there for me.

New Concept Hole
Oct 10, 2012

東方動的
The collective story that was written of the short man who choked up way too much and was a playoff hero much to the disgust of the statistically-inclined community at large gave me more entertainment than the majority of these people. If that don't make you HoF eligible in a comedy forum ballot that doesn't matter then I dunno what does.

FJM made Eckstein a Hall of Famer.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

I'm sorry Jeff Kent. I failed you.

No Safe Word
Feb 26, 2005

Good enough for me. I hate Schilling but voted for him because he deserves it on his on the field accomplishments even if he is a shitheel, so I'm glad he didn't make the cut anyway.

More people need to vote for Sheff though.

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MourningView
Sep 2, 2006


Is this Heaven?

No Safe Word posted:

Good enough for me. I hate Schilling but voted for him because he deserves it on his on the field accomplishments even if he is a shitheel, so I'm glad he didn't make the cut anyway.

More people need to vote for Sheff though.

Sheff is just barely hanging on the ballot in the actual voting so relatively speaking he's doing pretty well!

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