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Loucks posted:My point was that we can't conclude that these people were gearing up for an inevitable attack based on having black clothes and a couple of guns, but sure, feel free to interpret my post however you like. We can actually conclude that 3 people were gearing up for an attack based exactly on Guns, Explosives, Ammo, Military Style Clothes, and a target.
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I mean your...I guess 'greater' point that yea it's pretty easy to make a ghetto pipe bomb and wear a mask so we can't assume this was some bigger plan than what we saw without more proof wasn't wrong but...haha dude I think the cops and bomb dudes weren't just being huge pussies who thought a normal pipe for lug nuts was a pipe bomb. They've been pretty well dancing around saying 'that car was full of poo poo that was not good' whenever they're asked what took so long.
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Dec 3, 2015 05:41
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Brother in law of the suspect had a presser with CAIR and he said the daily beast had the wrong pictures, not sure if he commented on the job profiles.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:21
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Black Baby Goku posted:To be perfectly fair it's pretty simple to slap together a pipe bomb. Especially one that doesn't detonate.
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Dec 3, 2015 06:47
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Loucks posted:What equipment? An SUV, some black clothes, and a couple of rifles and handguns? At least half the people on my block are equipped for a large attack by your standards. Not that I can speak for their mental states. This is the most clear case of apologism i've seen
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Dec 3, 2015 06:55
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Police conference just started testing mics. http://abcnews.go.com/Live edit: is that man wearing a zoot suit?
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Dec 3, 2015 07:00
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Kafka Esq. posted:Police conference just started testing mics. http://abcnews.go.com/Live I think I just heard a reporter say "are you stoked?"
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Dec 3, 2015 07:06
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Kafka Esq. posted:Police conference just started testing mics. http://abcnews.go.com/Live Reporters all laughing and going "Whooooooaaa!" like someone just did a party foul at a frat party, nice. "Way to go, Rick!  "
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Dec 3, 2015 07:08
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BJPaskoff posted:Reporters all laughing and going "Whooooooaaa!" like someone just did a party foul at a frat party, nice. Is this that CAIR conference, or the official SBPD conference?
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Dec 3, 2015 07:09
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Wow, nothing has changed. I'm going to bed.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:14
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Republicans posted:Especially one that doesn't detonate. Ever since that incident with the Muslamic chess club student and his clock conservatives have been trying to save face by maintaining that anything that can be used as a bomb can very reasonably be confirmed as a bomb.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:26
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Wyld posted:A lot more information I'm sure will be released that will ultimately lead credence to which ever side you are really on. This reads like a manifesto. Please don't do a spree shooting, fellow poster.
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Dec 3, 2015 07:32
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What are the facts so far? Do we know for certain that one of the shooters was a man by the name of Syed Farook?
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Vox Nihili posted:This reads like a manifesto. Please don't do a spree shooting, fellow poster. A case study on radicalization
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Dec 3, 2015 07:42
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shadowvine118 posted:What are the facts so far? Do we know for certain that one of the shooters was a man by the name of Syed Farook? Summary: http://www.nytimes.com/live/san-bernardino-shooting/suspects-relative-expresses-shock-sadness-but-no-hints-on-motive/ Chief Jarrod Burguan of the San Bernardino police identified two suspects killed in a shootout with police officers as Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27. They were married and the parents of a 6-month-old daughter, according to Mr. Farook’s brother-in-law, Farhan Khan. Mr. Farook was born in the United States, Chief Burguan said, and he had been employed with the county for five years as a health inspector. He had been at a holiday party on Wednesday and left “angry,” amid a dispute, Chief Burguan said. He and his wife then returned with explosive devices and guns, and wearing tactical gear. Law enforcement officials initially said there may have been as many as three assailants, but Chief Burguan said they were “reasonably” confident that Mr. Farook and Ms. Malik were the only attackers.
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Dec 3, 2015 08:14
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Apparently they had also recently traveled to Saudi Arabia for a vacation. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/...1202-story.html
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Bizarre that neither of them gave a poo poo about the baby. Especially the mother abandoning a 6 month old that she is likely breast feeding. Heartless. Ending of that LA Times article is quite something... quote:Baccari remembered his co-worker disappearing before the photo session. Arkane fucked around with this message at 08:26 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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Dec 3, 2015 08:22
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C.M. Kruger posted:Apparently they had also recently traveled to Saudi Arabia for a vacation. He went to Saudi Arabia and brought back his wife, whom he met online.
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Dec 3, 2015 09:17
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I wonder if they thought they could get away with it somehow hence the masks and trying to escape?
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Dec 3, 2015 09:23
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Eagles of Death Metal has song called San Berdoo Sunburn, is this part of Daesh EoDM themed terror attacks? 
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Bip Roberts posted:I wonder if they thought they could get away with it somehow hence the masks and trying to escape? Nothing else makes sense since they went home and the cops found them there. Then, they had a low speed chase before all hell broke loose. If they wanted a big body count, they could have just stayed where they were and continued to fire until the cops showed up or they ran out of ammo. It sounds like they hit 1 conference room out of a huge building, then left. Maybe they chickened out, who knows. Maybe that was their target and they thought they got away with it??? I mean, I'm pretty sure they drove their own vehicle... good tactical planning in the event of trying to escape. Plus, everyone knew he was absent, so the cops went looking for him. Policing may not be up to CSI standards yet, but they can sure as hell figure this poo poo out. Pohl fucked around with this message at 11:38 on Dec 3, 2015 |
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I can't find any info on when he met and brought his new "wife" to the US. I find it a bit bizarre that someone you married after meeting online would just follow you shortly after into a random mass murder situation tooled up in full combat gear. Sounds like them terrists to me.
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Captain Kosmos posted:Eagles of Death Metal has song called San Berdoo Sunburn, is this part of Daesh EoDM themed terror attacks? Eagles: America Death: self-explaining Metal: bullets and bombs Conclusion: the illuminati did it, wake up sheeple
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Dec 3, 2015 12:48
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:I find it a bit bizarre that someone you married after meeting online would just follow you shortly after into a random mass murder situation tooled up in full combat gear.
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Dec 3, 2015 13:12
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Bip Roberts posted:I wonder if they thought they could get away with it somehow hence the masks and trying to escape? Maybe they thought it would buy them time to carry out additional attacks? Pohl posted:Nothing else makes sense Yeah. They handed their 6 month old child off to someone else, got into matching "tactical gear", took a rifle and sidearm each, enough ammo to go on a killing spree plus shoot it out with the cops and have extra mags hanging off their corpses afterward, and gunned down a bunch of people with no explicable motive. They were in and out in 4 minutes, indicating no hesitation whatsoever: they caught the people inside by surprise, over 30 people were shot before the rest could scatter, and they left once that happened. Also this was in a large metropolitan area and anyone living in America all his life like the dude would know shooting up any building inside the city is likely a death sentence (from volleys of police bullets). But yes, they thought they were gonna drive home and everything would be peachy. Nothing. Else. Makes. Sense. But you want to go all Occam's razor huh. Ok. This was a preplanned, terrorist attack carried out by Islamic extremists. It was at a Christmas party which would have unmistakable symbolic meaning in the aftermath of a terrorist attack carried out by Muslims. They martyred themselves before they could kill anyone else.
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Captain Kosmos posted:Eagles of Death Metal has song called San Berdoo Sunburn, is this part of Daesh EoDM themed terror attacks? I really hope nobody Wanna Be In LA...
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:I can't find any info on when he met and brought his new "wife" to the US. I find it a bit bizarre that someone you married after meeting online would just follow you shortly after into a random mass murder situation tooled up in full combat gear. Well think about it from a normal persons point of view. Even if you knew your spouse for a long time and heard them complain about their job for years. Your baby is like 6 months old. Then you spouse comes home one day and says 'I had a bad day at the office. Lets suit up go over there and shoot the place up.' I think my wife would probably call the cops on me if she thought I was serious.
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Vladimir Putin posted:Well think about it from a normal persons point of view. Even if you knew your spouse for a long time and heard them complain about their job for years. Your baby is like 6 months old. Then you spouse comes home one day and says 'I had a bad day at the office. Lets suit up go over there and shoot the place up.' I think my wife would probably call the cops on me if she thought I was serious. Normal people don't make bombs and own big-rear end guns though.
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Yoshifan823 posted:Normal people don't make bombs and own big-rear end guns though. American exceptionalism at play yet again.
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Vladimir Putin posted:I think my wife would probably call the cops on me if she thought I was serious. She'd be breaking her vow to be united with you for better or worse. A shameful wife.
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Dec 3, 2015 16:18
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Acid Haze posted:Maybe they thought it would buy them time to carry out additional attacks? Your conclusion doesn't follow from the evidence, OP.
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Dec 3, 2015 16:21
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Yoshifan823 posted:Normal people don't make bombs and own big-rear end guns though. Yeah I think that's the point of it. You would think it's kind of a rage killing but then there's this component of planning and the involvement of the wife that makes it look like there's more to it.
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Acid Haze posted:Maybe they thought it would buy them time to carry out additional attacks? I'm not sure if you're agreeing with him or not. Personally I think they did believe they could get away with it. Why bother with the getaway etc., they could have killed way more people. Jeez they could have driven to a school or something and hit at least one more location, that would be even more terror. Unless they just wanted to go home and gently caress before the cops killed them? That might make more sense.
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Cat Mattress posted:She'd be breaking her vow to be united with you for better or worse. A shameful wife. No it would actually be saving my life by preventing me from doing some crazy poo poo.
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Dec 3, 2015 16:24
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Arkane posted:Bizarre that neither of them gave a poo poo about the baby. He took paternity leave too
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Acid Haze posted:Maybe they thought it would buy them time to carry out additional attacks? They had plenty of time in which they could have driven to other targets and carried out additional attacks, just like in Paris, but they didn't. Acid Haze posted:This was a preplanned, terrorist attack carried out by Islamic extremists. It was at a Christmas party which would have unmistakable symbolic meaning in the aftermath of a terrorist attack carried out by Muslims. They martyred themselves before they could kill anyone else. If this was a terrorist attack, why didn't they take credit on social media, or post a manifesto video to Youtube, or otherwise do something to unmistakably let the world know that yes, this was a terrorist attack, and it was carried out for [reasons]? Again, they had plenty of time to do something like that. The whole point of terrorism is sending a message. If the world doesn't know that it was a terrorist attack, that defeats the entire purpose. Nothing about this case makes sense.
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INH5 posted:They had plenty of time in which they could have driven to other targets and carried out additional attacks, just like in Paris, but they didn't. Did the /pol/ dudes that shot up a BLM rally in Minneapolis do any of this? They were terrorists.
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INH5 posted:They had plenty of time in which they could have driven to other targets and carried out additional attacks, just like in Paris, but they didn't. I think they were planning for something bigger and then the husband got really mad and said lets just do this right now.
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Vladimir Putin posted:I think they were planning for something bigger and then the husband got really mad and said lets just do this right now. Yeah I agree. Only thing that doesn't make much sense here is the target seems a bit personal. Reports now are that they had Go-Pro cameras strapped onto their body armor. That's the mark of ISIS-style jihadism. The video may have been uploaded to some unsavory folks.
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Neo_Crimson posted:Did the /pol/ dudes that shot up a BLM rally in Minneapolis do any of this? They were terrorists. Yes. They took braggart videos on the way over there and posted them.
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