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Ferdinand Bardamu
Apr 30, 2013

Fat Lowtax posted:

The press and much of the public think of the national radical side as a homophobic, xenophobe group, which is entirely insensitive towards various races. To be honest, I have to add that this kind of thinking does exist in some of our supporters’ mind, but I should also mention immediately that the proportion of these people is by no way more than among the voters of the FIDESZ (Alliance of Young Democrats) or MSZP (Hungarian Socialist Party). Namely, it displays an average social stratum which does not arise from being a Jobbik (Movement for a Better Hungary) supporter, but it is a social phenomenon, independent of time and space. But the fact is that many people think of us as a racist, anti-immigration group. This is why everyone is surprised when it turns out that it is absolutely not true. In Hungary, only the Jobbik represents the foreign policy of opening to the East, under which we have been urging the solution of the improvement of the relations with Russia, China, India, Central Asia and the Muslim world. (Our proposals have fallen on deaf ears until now, the MSZP and the LMP (Politics Can Be Different) do not even know what we are talking about and the FIDESZ knowing that we are right just pacing up and down).

In relation to the Muslim world often questions are arisen as the Jobbik, including me, has expressed many times its sympathy to the Muslim world. Already in 2002 as an undergraduate, before my graduation, after the change of the government I gave a speech at Vác on a Palestinian exhibition, after I attended a youth conference in Yemen, protested on several demonstrations concerning the Palestinian cause and so on. Even from our supporters sometimes there is a lot of incomprehension regarding my orientation. Of course, for the left and right liberal media the question can be easily explained, as they believe that this – only according to them- is just another proof of my anti-Semitism. Since the Arabs (here I must add that many people confuse the Arab world with the Islam, which fatuity doesn’t even worth mentioning) fighting the Jews and since I don’t like the Jews, they think my enemy’s enemy must be Islam. But this is not the case. So what it is about? For the illustration of that I have to go deeper.

My idea of society and people was formed and developed by such great thinkers as Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Mircea Eliade, Rüdiger Safranski, Konrad Lorenz or the all time favourite, Master Eckhart. But If I had to define the category to which my thinking and my perception belong to it would have to be the following: traditionalist. Here I should emphasize Béla Hamvas, Julius Evola and René Guenon. Their perception-and mine which I learned from them- could be characterized as an ancient, basic knowledge that was less and less understood by the mankind as the time passed by, and by now, in the modern era, our life –also known as global, neo-liberal, consumer- has sunk to the level of anti-traditionalism.

Perhaps the Middle Age was the last of which even if dimly but kept the light of the ancient tradition. But the process, beginning with the Renaissance and the Reformation continued with the Enlightenment through the industrial revolution till the modernity, darkened everything. The merely political economy’s writing is not concerned as much as I am about the subtle and intellectual strands of history. The United States of America was established as a state without traditions. It identified itself with a twisted conception of freedom and felt that its enormous power is due to its global mission. Which means nothing else than exporting its “values” to the world, whether or not it is needed. Since usually there was no demand for it, only the violence left of course hidden under the guise of such nice words as world peace, democracy, liberalism.

The traditional states of Europe –The Austro-Hungarian Empire, Germany- lost in the First World Was against those who fought under the banner of liberalism, and after a short interlude during the Second World War the future of Europe was finally decided. Meanwhile the globalism had worn out the great states of Asia. Russia, Japan, China and India seem to have kept their traditionalisms, but these are only surface lights beneath which in the depths, the worm of neo-liberalism rots the societies. The signs of internal decay are obvious and it is only a matter of time till the ulcer will be unambiguous and visible. From this perspective Africa has no power; Australia and South-America suffer from perplexed identity due to their much congested societies. Considering all this, there’s only one culture left which seeks to preserve its traditions: it is the Islamic world. And of course I do not favour suicide bombers and ruthless wars but at the same time I declare that today the mankind’s last remaining bastions of traditional culture- experiencing the transcendent in everyday life- is the Islamic world. I say this as a Roman Catholic man.) Its success or failure, in the relation of the Islam and America/Israel is not as important for me as from the aspect of mankind. If Islam fails the lights will completely go out. There will be no foeman against the darkness of globalism. Then the history will really come to an end and there will be no happy end....

- Fat Lowtax, 2010

im gay

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Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

These guys are the descendents (in many cases literal sons, granddaughters etc) of the Nazi collaborators.

Pls kill them america

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
I really don't like the 'pens

lilljonas
May 6, 2007

We got crabs? We got crabs!
Paris is too bombed out and decadent, might as well move the capital to, say, Vichy or something.

Michael Bayleaf
Jun 4, 2006

Tortured By Flan

wow rude posted:

guys.... hey, guys.... what if.. what if instead of an election, yeah? france had a big.... ERECTION lol

haha that would be wicked wild

Nolgthorn
Jan 30, 2001

The pendulum of the mind alternates between sense and nonsense
I can't tell if people who use the word racist are serious anymore.

BoonyPC
Feb 19, 2007
hope it didnt go to waste!

BoonyPC
Feb 19, 2007
the big erection I mean

Robo Reagan
Feb 12, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
has france gone full facism yet because theyve been threatening to for awhile whenever it comes to issues regarding muzzies

Nolgthorn
Jan 30, 2001

The pendulum of the mind alternates between sense and nonsense
I've never been able to tell if americans who use the word fascism are serious or not.

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

No joke the French love actual, proper fascism.

A few years ago their centre right party rounded up ethnic undesirables and put them on one way trains to eastern Europe since that's where their distant ancestors were from.

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11020429)

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

vs


Couldn't the left even find one hottie? It's like they don't want to win

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Strategic Tea posted:

No joke the French love actual, proper fascism.

A few years ago their centre right party rounded up ethnic undesirables and put them on one way trains to eastern Europe since that's where their distant ancestors were from.

(http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-11020429)
On the other hand all cities with more than 5000 people are required by law to offer campsites with free water and electricity for gypsies to abuse.

Recently they started having little shitfits and behave like retard thugs so gently caress em.

The latest lolworthy gypsy event was when a bunch of hooded and gloved 20yo crashed their stolen bmw and all died.
Their families wanted a special release for a jailed family member to attend the funeral, to do so they threw some cars on train tracks, randomly attacked people around the city and burned some cars to make a point. It went on for 2 weeks.

The previous event was similar except they blockaded and ruined a major highway, the govt yielded to their demands.

So gently caress some gypsies and gently caress limp dicked "progressive" policies

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

Holly, from hit American sitcom "The Office"

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

Fat Lowtax posted:

The press and much of the public think of the national radical side as a homophobic, xenophobe group, which is entirely insensitive towards various races. To be honest, I have to add that this kind of thinking does exist in some of our supporters’ mind, but I should also mention immediately that the proportion of these people is by no way more than among the voters of the FIDESZ (Alliance of Young Democrats) or MSZP (Hungarian Socialist Party). Namely, it displays an average social stratum which does not arise from being a Jobbik (Movement for a Better Hungary) supporter, but it is a social phenomenon, independent of time and space. But the fact is that many people think of us as a racist, anti-immigration group. This is why everyone is surprised when it turns out that it is absolutely not true. In Hungary, only the Jobbik represents the foreign policy of opening to the East, under which we have been urging the solution of the improvement of the relations with Russia, China, India, Central Asia and the Muslim world. (Our proposals have fallen on deaf ears until now, the MSZP and the LMP (Politics Can Be Different) do not even know what we are talking about and the FIDESZ knowing that we are right just pacing up and down).

In relation to the Muslim world often questions are arisen as the Jobbik, including me, has expressed many times its sympathy to the Muslim world. Already in 2002 as an undergraduate, before my graduation, after the change of the government I gave a speech at Vác on a Palestinian exhibition, after I attended a youth conference in Yemen, protested on several demonstrations concerning the Palestinian cause and so on. Even from our supporters sometimes there is a lot of incomprehension regarding my orientation. Of course, for the left and right liberal media the question can be easily explained, as they believe that this – only according to them- is just another proof of my anti-Semitism. Since the Arabs (here I must add that many people confuse the Arab world with the Islam, which fatuity doesn’t even worth mentioning) fighting the Jews and since I don’t like the Jews, they think my enemy’s enemy must be Islam. But this is not the case. So what it is about? For the illustration of that I have to go deeper.

My idea of society and people was formed and developed by such great thinkers as Schopenhauer, Nietzsche, Mircea Eliade, Rüdiger Safranski, Konrad Lorenz or the all time favourite, Master Eckhart. But If I had to define the category to which my thinking and my perception belong to it would have to be the following: traditionalist. Here I should emphasize Béla Hamvas, Julius Evola and René Guenon. Their perception-and mine which I learned from them- could be characterized as an ancient, basic knowledge that was less and less understood by the mankind as the time passed by, and by now, in the modern era, our life –also known as global, neo-liberal, consumer- has sunk to the level of anti-traditionalism.

Perhaps the Middle Age was the last of which even if dimly but kept the light of the ancient tradition. But the process, beginning with the Renaissance and the Reformation continued with the Enlightenment through the industrial revolution till the modernity, darkened everything. The merely political economy’s writing is not concerned as much as I am about the subtle and intellectual strands of history. The United States of America was established as a state without traditions. It identified itself with a twisted conception of freedom and felt that its enormous power is due to its global mission. Which means nothing else than exporting its “values” to the world, whether or not it is needed. Since usually there was no demand for it, only the violence left of course hidden under the guise of such nice words as world peace, democracy, liberalism.

The traditional states of Europe –The Austro-Hungarian Empire, Germany- lost in the First World Was against those who fought under the banner of liberalism, and after a short interlude during the Second World War the future of Europe was finally decided. Meanwhile the globalism had worn out the great states of Asia. Russia, Japan, China and India seem to have kept their traditionalisms, but these are only surface lights beneath which in the depths, the worm of neo-liberalism rots the societies. The signs of internal decay are obvious and it is only a matter of time till the ulcer will be unambiguous and visible. From this perspective Africa has no power; Australia and South-America suffer from perplexed identity due to their much congested societies. Considering all this, there’s only one culture left which seeks to preserve its traditions: it is the Islamic world. And of course I do not favour suicide bombers and ruthless wars but at the same time I declare that today the mankind’s last remaining bastions of traditional culture- experiencing the transcendent in everyday life- is the Islamic world. I say this as a Roman Catholic man.) Its success or failure, in the relation of the Islam and America/Israel is not as important for me as from the aspect of mankind. If Islam fails the lights will completely go out. There will be no foeman against the darkness of globalism. Then the history will really come to an end and there will be no happy end....

- Fat Lowtax, 2010

holy gently caress what a stupid human being

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

She's not actually that attractive and the permanent sneer doesn't help matters.

unpacked robinhood posted:

On the other hand all cities with more than 5000 people are required by law to offer campsites with free water and electricity for gypsies to abuse.

Recently they started having little shitfits and behave like retard thugs so gently caress em.

The latest lolworthy gypsy event was when a bunch of hooded and gloved 20yo crashed their stolen bmw and all died.
Their families wanted a special release for a jailed family member to attend the funeral, to do so they threw some cars on train tracks, randomly attacked people around the city and burned some cars to make a point. It went on for 2 weeks.

The previous event was similar except they blockaded and ruined a major highway, the govt yielded to their demands.

So gently caress some gypsies and gently caress limp dicked "progressive" policies

Yeah don't get me wrong gently caress criminals using their own ethnic group as a meat shield.

I just don't think you can round people up for living in the wrong slum and dump them on the doorstep of a sovereign nation that they might never have even visited. The latter especially highlights the 'those people' style of thinking.

Cake Smashing Boob
Nov 5, 2008

I support black genocide

Strategic Tea posted:

I just don't think you can round people up for living in the wrong slum and dump them on the doorstep of a sovereign nation that they might never have even visited. The latter especially highlights the 'those people' style of thinking.

they were romanian though

as in romanian citizens from romania'

are you stupid

Strategic Tea
Sep 1, 2012

They were Roma, an ethnicity historically from Romania (and Bulgaria). That doesn't mean all of them had even seen Romania in their lifetime. Even among recent migrants, many have lived in France for years or decades. You know, homes, families, all that. Squatters' rights at the very, very least.

E: And that doesn't change the fact that deportation was aimed at unpopular foreign communities. Not criminals or the unemployed.

It also wilfully underestimates the sheer scale of informal economies in Europe, which include Aryan supermen as much as any other group. Just if you're not getting bad headlines, nobody cares that you can't prove your income.

Strategic Tea fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Dec 7, 2015

fuccboi
Jan 5, 2004

by zen death robot
I'm glad the fascists are winning. The left had the chance to arm their people and protect them from invaders and they dropped the ball. This is the correct course.

Constant Hamprince
Oct 24, 2010

by exmarx
College Slice

Strategic Tea posted:

She's not actually that attractive and the permanent sneer doesn't help matters.

The permanent sneer actually helps things quite a lot.

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Berious posted:

Couldn't the left even find one hottie? It's like they don't want to win

Cake Smashing Boob
Nov 5, 2008

I support black genocide

Strategic Tea posted:

They were Roma, an ethnicity historically from Romania (and Bulgaria). That doesn't mean all of them had even seen Romania in their lifetime. Even among recent migrants, many have lived in France for years or decades. You know, homes, families, all that. Squatters' rights at the very, very least.

E: And that doesn't change the fact that deportation was aimed at unpopular foreign communities. Not criminals or the unemployed.

It also wilfully underestimates the sheer scale of informal economies in Europe, which include Aryan supermen as much as any other group. Just if you're not getting bad headlines, nobody cares that you can't prove your income.

you're straight up wrong on, like, all counts bro

fuccboi
Jan 5, 2004

by zen death robot

Look at all the wrinkles she has from laughter and joy.

Berious
Nov 13, 2005

Definitely some MILF appeal there. Up the workers and stuff

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
Sorry France, but the German leftist boss is prettier than yours.

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
knowing nothing about france, i stumbled across a tumblr for some front national supporter who was in her mid-20s and posted popular memes of herself with her tits out with white supremacist and pro-FN statements written on her chest.

and pics of her with marine le pen, etc. and groups of intimidating-looking men with short haircuts. that's when i thought ... hmm this might be a problem.

I'm Crap
Aug 15, 2001
link mah boi

Teriyaki Koinku
Nov 25, 2008

Bread! Bread! Bread!

Bread! BREAD! BREAD!

Omi-Polari posted:

knowing nothing about france, i stumbled across a tumblr for some front national supporter who was in her mid-20s and posted popular memes of herself with her tits out with white supremacist and pro-FN statements written on her chest.

and pics of her with marine le pen, etc. and groups of intimidating-looking men with short haircuts. that's when i thought ... hmm this might be a problem.

Tits for totalitarianism 2016

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

I'm Crap posted:

link mah boi
http://www.electreunleashed.fr/2015/08/09/itw-electre-ohne-komplexe/

:nws: / French

Cake Smashing Boob
Nov 5, 2008

I support black genocide
link/article actually in german tho

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot
whats the dang name of the man who won the race

ashgromnies
Jun 19, 2004

those are nice boobies but she face look like miley cyrus

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy

Berious posted:

vs


Couldn't the left even find one hottie? It's like they don't want to win

Relin
Oct 6, 2002

You have been a most worthy adversary, but in every game, there are winners and there are losers. And as you know, in this game, losers get robotizicized!
muslims are going to keep attacking the US and trump is going to get elected, just like GWB

texting my ex
Nov 15, 2008

I am no one
I cannot squat
It's in my blood
french chick is hot but eh, this could have been Polands president

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
what Europe needs is fascism really

unironically support fascist france

Roy
Sep 24, 2007
baguette

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Relin posted:

muslims are going to keep attacking the US and trump is going to get elected, just like GWB
nah. there's a saying that fascism is always falling on america but landing in europe.

Immortan
Jun 6, 2015

by Shine

Your Dunkle Sans posted:

Tits for totalitarianism 2016

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kikkelivelho
Aug 27, 2015

I've said this before but I'll reiterate it in this thread. An entire country turning to fascism would usually be really sad, but honestly, who gives a gently caress about France? I mean lets be honest, we're talking about France. Like, really?

If someone said they were sad because of France turning to fascism I'd just shrug and go "eh". How bad is your country, when the only real options are Sarcozy and Le Pen?

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