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Jobbo_Fett posted:Saratoga Sail closer, I want to hit them with my GUNS 
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Galaga Galaxian posted:Sink all the enemy shippies, sir, the enemy shippies. Our shippies like being unsunk. KHORNE CARES NOT FROM WHO THE SHIPPIES SINK
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Deptfordx posted:KHORNE CARES NOT FROM WHO THE SHIPPIES SINK Reefs for the reef throne! And isn't that a pretty strong maneuver from the USN right now, sending a carrier out to the Marshalls? Even if the KB's recovering from the Pearl raid, it's a bit risky (understatement of the year, I guess).
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Dec 11, 2015 00:52
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Rest in peace, West Virginia. At least you didn't sink on day one, I guess.
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Dec 11, 2015 00:57
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Mountaineer posted:Rest in peace, West Virginia. At least you didn't sink on day one, I guess. Nope. Instead it sunk in open waters, never to be seen again.
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poo poo I missed this. Since my IJN ship was taken, give me USS Washington (BB-56)
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Dec 11, 2015 01:15
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Calling CVL Shoho. I've got a good feeling about this: she won't be the first IJN carrier sunk in this timeline! Because Grey is going to get the Kido Butai sunk first
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Dec 11, 2015 01:18
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I want to see a WitP LP with a mod that removes all carriers from the game. Then we can actually care about battleships.
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Gamerofthegame posted:I want to see a WitP LP with a mod that removes all carriers from the game. That is on sale for  http://www.matrixgames.com/products/326/details/War.Plan.Orange:.Dreadnoughts.in.the.Pacific.1922.-.1930
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uPen posted:That is on sale for Its also good game if you wanna feel stressed as poo poo cause you don't know where the enemy fleet or even what they're up to at all.
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Dec 11, 2015 02:30
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Noticed this a few days late, but I'm definitely claiming the CA Houston. May she fight free of the Philippines and live to Realbarrow fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Dec 11, 2015 |
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Dec 11, 2015 02:33
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someday I'm going to actually manage to make it to a grey hunter LP on time, but for now I'll claim the CVL Zuiho .
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Dec 11, 2015 06:56
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Getting in a few days later than the original, but I'm excited to follow Grey Hunter again. I'll take the BC Haruna as my lucky ship if she's still available.
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Dec 11, 2015 08:41
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Mikl posted:Have you checked behind your living room curtain? Dammit! He nearly got me! It's all under control. He's now secure in a lower part of the Fortress, where I'm playing him a carefully doctored series of videos designed to brainwash him. I'm particularly happy with the edit to the scene from 2012 where the aircraft carrier destroys the White House. That's now the Enterprise.
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Dec 11, 2015 08:56
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In Tokyo Bay Fortress? Also, I see that the Japanese are maintaining the tradition of claiming to have sunk half the US fleet in each attack,
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Dec 11, 2015 09:36
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Veloxyll posted:In Tokyo Bay Fortress? Of course. I now reside in the bowls of TBF, its a massive submarine the size of a battleship. but we shall keep that secret from the allies. And we HAVE sunk all those ships. Don't go spreading any negative propaganda!
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Speaking of massive subs, going to build the I-400 and go after the Panama locks? I can't decide if the I-400 or the Surcouf is sillier.
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Night10194 posted:Speaking of massive subs, going to build the I-400 and go after the Panama locks? I suppose it's a matter of quantity vs quality of your submarine/aircraft carrier/cruiser hybrid.
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Dec 11, 2015 10:03
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Awesome! I've been waiting all year for this thread to come back. If we're still calling ships that haven't been built yet, then I'll take the Super DD Shimakaze.
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Grey Hunter posted:And we HAVE sunk all those ships. Don't go spreading any negative propaganda! Sounds like a defeatist to me. And you know what happens to defeatists ... 
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Lord Koth posted:Well, didn't get on quite at ground floor for this LP, but close enough. And always fun watching Grey Hunter LPs, and him I'd like to sign up for the USS Dunlap, hopefully we will meet again!
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The awkward moment when I realise SS Narwhals (yes I will add the s every time) got hit by a torpedo on the first day.
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  [img]http://lpix.org/2301431/1].jpg[/img] We open the day by landing troops on Guam.  The American carrier swings north and takes out one of my precious invasion fleets.  Then another, I need to kill this thing.   We hit the other end of Sarawak. Gotta keep them reeling.  We also land troops in Kuantan – the main aim here is to keep the enemy pinned in place.  At Miri, a couple of minelayers try and see us off – it ends badly for them.  Georgetown gets several visits from our planes today.  Is that a British carrier? Or just a bug in the interface.  Looks like I'm now in range of planes from Singapore!  Over the course of the day, it goes poorly for me.  Miri is ours though.   I sally out a carrier, but our pilots just seem good at getting themselves shot down.  Our troops take heavy losses trying to expand the beachhead.  They have nothing in the south however.   Two more B-17's shot down? It must be Xmas!   We take the long named French base in China.   A lot of ship losses, but a good number of (minor) bases taken. The progress continues!  That's a whole load of owch. Grey Hunter fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Dec 12, 2015 |
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I lust for ship death 
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Grey Hunter posted:
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Ikasuhito posted:
I like to think some carrier was in the middle of a cruise minding their own business on December 7th when they got a frantic message from PACCOM to go crazy and gently caress poo poo up in all directions. I can't come up with any other reason for an American carrier to be in that area that quickly.
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Notahippie posted:I like to think some carrier was in the middle of a cruise minding their own business on December 7th when they got a frantic message from PACCOM to go crazy and gently caress poo poo up in all directions. I can't come up with any other reason for an American carrier to be in that area that quickly. That's where you end up if you tell the carriers to start heading towards Aus after Pearl gets hit. Lex and Enterprise start east of Wake so they'll blunder through the Marshalls unless you specifically route around them, Saratoga is in LA.
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What are some of the gamey strategies that you can do if you are really good at the game? Isn't it better as a JP player to not do Pearl Harbor and instead race the KB to the Philippines or something?
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And we're already starting to lose our bluster.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What are some of the gamey strategies that you can do if you are really good at the game? Isn't it better as a JP player to not do Pearl Harbor and instead race the KB to the Philippines or something? The game starts with the PH attack, and it would be very stupid not to open with one even if you could.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What are some of the gamey strategies that you can do if you are really good at the game? Isn't it better as a JP player to not do Pearl Harbor and instead race the KB to the Philippines or something? Going for the US carriers immediately instead of Pearl Harbor is pretty gamey, IIRC.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:Going for the US carriers immediately instead of Pearl Harbor is pretty gamey, IIRC. Anything is gamey to a degree if players diverge from historical, I mean after all this is the entire point of the game right?
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Yeah. Starting the game you've got a fair idea where the US carriers are, and you can sink em and make things easy for a couple of years.
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Palladium posted:Anything is gamey to a degree if players diverge from historical, I mean after all this is the entire point of the game right? Gamey is taking advantage of pre-positioned units or coded effects that you wouldn't know initially or without looking at the game's code. Not following the historic timeline just makes it ahistorical. Since the US carriers always start in the same location, and the AI isn't always the smartest, you can go after them ASAP and wipe out a major portion of their available carrier force.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:What are some of the gamey strategies that you can do if you are really good at the game? Isn't it better as a JP player to not do Pearl Harbor and instead race the KB to the Philippines or something? You can try to hunt for the US carriers instead of doing a PH strike, since you know where they start. You can hit Pearl for multiple days, although this doesn't always turn out as well as you might think since CAP will be up on the second day and you don't get torpedoes in the harbor and pilot losses might not make it worth it. You can divert the KB to hit Manila instead of Pearl, and this is a hotly-debated topic as people weigh whether the BBs or the subs are more valuable to the Allies. You can try to land directly at Mersing to cut off Singers right away, since you know that there are few forces there. This might not be a good idea against a human. You can use China as a training ground for pilots, letting them rack up xp via unopposed bombing runs, then reassigning the pilots back to the front lines so that you can maintain a crack force. I think you might need some of the other player options to be enabled, and that this works better with the Hakko Ichiu scenario where the Japanese have more training squadrons. You can use strategic bombing on the Chinese cities to deny them of supply production. You can exploit the air combat engine's overemphasis on the power of dives by sweeping enemy airbases with fighters flying at maximum altitude to give them a large combat advantage. In general, the AI is not very good at concentrating its forces, and will send out task forces with penny-packet compositions. For the Allies, this makes the game fairly easy. The "Fortress Palembang" strategy for example will trip up the Japanese AI every time because it will never figure out that if you've turned Palembang into The Iron Cage of Sebastus IV, that it needs to hit it with everything it's got. It'll just keep sending small transport TFs to try and land troops, which your Vildebeests and Mitchells will rather easily sink, and the whole campaign will lock up. For the Japanese, this still makes the campaign an uphill battle because the sheer amount of resources available to the Allies will mean that it can and will eventually stumble upon creating a concentrated force, even by accident, and the paucity of your own forces will mean that you only really need to make one mistake before you get so many KB carriers that you'll be forced on the permanent defensive. As an aside, this is why the "Ironman" scenarios exist: if you give the Japanese AI a poo poo-ton of assets to play with, you extend the "fun part" of an Allied human player playing against them because the IJN remains a credible threat for so much longer even with the AI's less-than-stellar strategic planning.
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gradenko_2000 posted:
You don't even need to divert the KB for that, just focus your aircraft against Manila.   I should really put more effort into learning WitP, you can get a lot of mileage out of low-altitude strikes. (And I'm a huge ww2 nerd/aircraft sperg)
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This loving LP is making me want to download the game again and give it another try 
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Just a reminder, the Operational Report header is still showing (day)/12/42 rather than (day)/12/41. Top-flight stuff otherwise.
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I'd just like to remind everyone of what happened the last time Grey Hunter played a game where it was "OK I'm going to win like nuts in the beginning, and then the way the game's designed inevitably means that I'm going to start going backwards and consolidating somewhat and the real measure of success isn't what I gain now, it's what I don't lose later" http://lparchive.org/War-in-the-East/ We have an even-money chance of this either ending in Operation Downfall or the American intelligence report reading "Tokyo Bay Fortress is located at San Francisco".
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I suppose it all depends on if we can make it up the tech tree enough to activate the Zakus hidden in Tokyo Bay.
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