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Mokelumne Trekka
Nov 22, 2015

Soon.

perhaps poverty could be reduced if more people became smart enough to realize they were too dumb to have kids

clarification: I support voluntary eugenics brought on by state-sponsored education, not forced eugenics

thanks for letting me share my thoughts

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Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
loving BREEDERS am i right

flerp
Feb 25, 2014
crotch spawn

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

glans to hear someone telling it like it really is, OP.

the myth that 2.4 children are required for happiness still taints our culture

Mokelumne Trekka
Nov 22, 2015

Soon.

DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:

glans to hear someone telling it like it really is, OP.

the myth that 2.4 children are required for happiness still taints our culture

I'd be pretty unhappy if one of my kids was only .4 a person

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


Lol op

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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children are EVIL abominations that will suck your money and energy straight outta you

theyre parasites that u give ur best years to, that you work ur rear end off every day to feed and clothe and raise and then they grow up and leave you and you realize that you're old and busted and you don't really feel that strongly about ur wife anymore and holy poo poo YOU'RE JUST SO OLD so you panic and buy a motorcycle to try and regain some semblance of youth and adventure and get involved in a car crash and die horribly

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


Zzulu posted:

children are EVIL abominations that will suck your money and energy straight outta you

theyre parasites that u give ur best years to, that you work ur rear end off every day to feed and clothe and raise and then they grow up and leave you and you realize that you're old and busted and you don't really feel that strongly about ur wife anymore and holy poo poo YOU'RE JUST SO OLD so you panic and buy a motorcycle to try and regain some semblance of youth and adventure and get involved in a car crash and die horribly

I hope your recovery was great.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:

glans to hear someone telling it like it really is, OP.

the myth that 2.4 children are required for happiness still taints our culture

It's that crotch spawn that's only 40% human that is the secret to true happiness.

Mokelumne Trekka
Nov 22, 2015

Soon.

Zzulu posted:

children are EVIL abominations that will suck your money and energy straight outta you

theyre parasites that u give ur best years to, that you work ur rear end off every day to feed and clothe and raise and then they grow up and leave you and you realize that you're old and busted and you don't really feel that strongly about ur wife anymore and holy poo poo YOU'RE JUST SO OLD so you panic and buy a motorcycle to try and regain some semblance of youth and adventure and get involved in a car crash and die horribly

yeah, yea! you're getting it

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

Mokelumne Trekka posted:

I'd be pretty unhappy if one of my kids was only .4 a person

i know right, that's way less than 3/5ths

Enfield
May 30, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo
i dont care what you think and furthermore i will kill you with a long sword

down n out
Sep 16, 2008

Nap Ghost
I'm sorry if you have kid that is growing up in the current unevolved techno-trash culture

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005
It's not a right to have children, it's a privilege. And people that abuse that privilege should be arrested and executed.

Enfield
May 30, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

Poetic Justice posted:

It's not a right to have children, it's a privilege. And people that abuse that privilege should be arrested and executed.

if i was feeling particularly snarky i would say that i agree that your parents should be executed but my blood pressure has been running high lately so ill just write this long rambling post that doesnt really have a point at all and just seems to keep going and going without conveying any sort of meaningful message or anything like that at all

ghlbtsk
Apr 19, 2005

these bath mats
are
GORGEOUS
op that pun testicles my funny bone(r)

The Aardvark
Aug 19, 2013


Poetic Justice posted:

It's not a right to have children, it's a privilege. And people that abuse that privilege should be arrested and executed.

Good. I hope this means you won't procreate.

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005
If you can't afford to take care of yourself working a minimum wage job perhaps you shouldn't then also have tons of kids then whine to the government to raise minimum wage and how unfair life is

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005
also, video games are not art either

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!
If people really want to have children I think they should, but too many people just loving do it because it's some sort of imagined checkbox on the adult list. This, despite the fact that it now costs 250k on average to raise a kid for 18 years.

If you're not rich, you very literally can't afford kids. (And it stands to mention if you took the cash you'd spend on two kids and invested in index funds for 18 years, you'd be goddamn loaded at the end.) Couples in their early 20s who have been together for a year or less go for it because reasons, despite not having their poo poo together. A kid changes the trajectory of the rest of your days irreversibly, and yet people absolutely ruin their lives because they think they're "supposed" to pop out kids before they're old enough to rent a car without a borderline usury surcharge.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

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you should have to take a test before youre allowed to make babies

basic empathy test
basic economy test
don't shake the baby test

guidoanselmi
Feb 6, 2008

I thought my ideas were so clear. I wanted to make an honest post. No lies whatsoever.

haha i also saw idiocracy op. hi5

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

bloodysabbath posted:

If people really want to have children I think they should, but too many people just loving do it because it's some sort of imagined checkbox on the adult list. This, despite the fact that it now costs 250k on average to raise a kid for 18 years.

That's less than 14k a year which really doesn't sound insane for keeping another human being alive into adulthood, especially if that's actually the average cost

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005

Aesop Poprock posted:

That's less than 14k a year which really doesn't sound insane for keeping another human being alive

Yet apparently minimum wage isn't enough?

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Poetic Justice posted:

Yet apparently minimum wage isn't enough?

I kind of don't the average is just "how much did it cost to feed this kid" as opposed to "how much did you spend on the kid total, including toys, trips, private school, tutors, baby sitters, etc" which some parents are obviously going to spending a lot more on than others

I mean yeah minimum wage is not livable I'm not denying that

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005
Only wealthy people should have children. If you are poor, you can't provide a good life or good opportunities to the child, and are just asking for them to end up miserable, in prison, or dead.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer
I probably would struggle to live on minimum wage myself let alone if I had kids.

Kuato
Feb 25, 2005

"I CAN'T BELIEVE I ATE THE WHOLE THING"
Buglord
Wish all 2015 regs could be executed, a sort of do-over for what should've been aborted fetus's. This is just one man's opinion though.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Poetic Justice posted:

Only wealthy people should have children. If you are poor, you can't provide a good life or good opportunities to the child, and are just asking for them to end up miserable, in prison, or dead.

Well you're gonna have a loving hard time of it since you'll be stuck in a lovely neighborhood, with a lovely school that doesn't give a flying gently caress about your kid, in a country that has barely any safety net for them

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005

Aesop Poprock posted:

I probably would struggle to live on minimum wage myself let alone if I had kids.

People that end up stuck in min wage jobs generally don't have the best life decision making abilities, and probably fundamentally shouldn't have children, is what I'm mostly saying. I'm sure they can be loving parents, but they don't have any success to share to their offspring, and it ends up regurgitating over and over and over.

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005
If people truly want something bad enough, they will manage to find a way to get it. That includes learning, schooling, success, money, happiness. Anything you can imagine, no matter where you come from, if you care enough, you can get it. You can work for it. If you work a min wage job as a career you are comfortable and if you have children in that situation, you are also selfish.

bloodysabbath
May 1, 2004

OH NO!

Aesop Poprock posted:

That's less than 14k a year which really doesn't sound insane for keeping another human being alive into adulthood, especially if that's actually the average cost

The median household income hovers around 50k, which means half make less than that. If 30% or more of your income is going to a child, you can't afford the child.

Kuato
Feb 25, 2005

"I CAN'T BELIEVE I ATE THE WHOLE THING"
Buglord
Most porn stars are from broken homes and low-income families, as are most sex workers. I guess what I'm saying is the status quo works IMO.

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

bloodysabbath posted:

The median household income hovers around 50k, which means half make less than that. If 30% or more of your income is going to a child, you can't afford the child.

So serious question, if this is the case: why aren't 50% of households with children, many of those with multiple children, struggling financially to an extent that they would be included as being below the poverty line or even close to it?
I'm a gay liberal douche who thinks welfare is great but this isn't really adding up

Aesop Poprock
Oct 21, 2008


Grimey Drawer

Poetic Justice posted:

If people truly want something bad enough, they will manage to find a way to get it. That includes learning, schooling, success, money, happiness. Anything you can imagine, no matter where you come from, if you care enough, you can get it. You can work for it. If you work a min wage job as a career you are comfortable and if you have children in that situation, you are also selfish.

Haha wait I just went back and read this, I dunno if you're being sarcastic or not now

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005
Poor people also generally have a larger carbon footprint because they are too lazy to turn off their macbooks and other such electronics when they aren't using them.

somethingawful bf fucked around with this message at 11:05 on Dec 12, 2015

de_dust
Jan 21, 2009

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.
if white people ceased to have children (they're pretty much doing this anyways) the world would be a vastly more just and superior.

somethingawful bf
Jun 17, 2005

de_dust posted:

if white people ceased to have children (they're pretty much doing this anyways) the world would be a vastly more just and superior.

It always comes back down to race to a lot of you people. Race doesn't matter. Success and wealth matter. Some people say "eat the rich". I however, say instead, "No, eat the poor". The poor are a drain on society as a whole, they offer nothing. All they do is take take take and lower the common denominator. They beg, cheat steal and rob. Some rise above the rest and make something out of themselves, that is their choice. Even poor people have a choice in life. It might be hard, but they have a choice. Little Timmy goes out and robs houses to get money. Little Timmy two stays home and reads books and gets a scholarship. It's a choice.

SEGA Ass Fisting
Feb 15, 2012

KEEP IT TIGHT!
This is why I go around randomly killing children

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de_dust
Jan 21, 2009

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Poetic Justice posted:

It always comes back down to race to a lot of you people. Race doesn't matter. Success and wealth matter. Some people say "eat the rich". I however, say instead, "No, eat the poor". The poor are a drain on society as a whole, they offer nothing. All they do is take take take and lower the common denominator. They beg, cheat steal and rob. Some rise above the rest and make something out of themselves, that is their choice. Even poor people have a choice in life. It might be hard, but they have a choice. Little Timmy goes out and robs houses to get money. Little Timmy two stays home and reads books and gets a scholarship. It's a choice.

some say eat the rich

you say eat the poor

i say why don't you get over here and swallow some of my children

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