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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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China is an authoritarian shithole that attempts to hide this fact with a facade of westernization.

Honestly the thing that surprised me the most in that video is that Tencent now owns Riot Games.

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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You're insane if you think that anything even close to this would be arriving in the US, or any Western country for that matter. In the US especially if the government tried something like this there would be hordes of people making GBS threads all over it and ignoring it completely as a matter of principle.

Also something something First Amendment

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Freakazoid_ posted:

We don't need this at a national level. It just needs to permeate at the corporate level, and the national part will follow.

Oh, what's that? You didn't voluntarily salute the flag on your way in? That's such an easy +20 points why wouldn't you do that!?

This would last for all of 5 seconds before someone sued the company and won.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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sitchensis posted:

God this is depressing. Can we even call this a totalitarian state? It seems to me that all of this is the state in service of capital.

Please expand on how state surveillance is in service of capital.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Flavahbeast posted:

Just a head's up, there's no timer on the flag out by the soccer fields, I've been saluting it for seven hours straight and now I'm on top of my district's leaderboard for this month

In before you're banned for exploiting an obvious bug

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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I still don't understand how people are connecting state-surveillance with capitalism.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Bob le Moche posted:

Capitalism means a few people own and control everything and we all need to work our rear end off for them our entire life in exchange for the scraps we require to survive.

That sounds more like feudalism actually.

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Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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VileLL posted:

how could this monumentally corrupt government use a surveillance programme to unfairly benefit their rich friends in return for a payback

the answer may surprise you

But you can do this without capitalism?

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I mean I get it, it's a confusing time and it's a weird thing to think that authoritarian states might come up societal innovations that actually work and create stable societies, especially if you still think that Fukuyama was right. Spoiler alert: even Fukuyama doesnt believe in it anymore. I'm not trying to sound alarmist and I doubt that the worst kinds of abuses we see in China or Singapore will ever happen on the same scale as do there, but I really do think that what is being created there is a true novelty. An authoritarian state with nominal personal freedoms and total political oppression, which contrary to all historical precedents has a functional economy and is stable.

Congratulations, you have bought Chinese propaganda.

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